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Old 04-08-04 | 03:14 PM
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who's doing 3rotor conversions?

just wanted to start a thread to know who is activly working on a 20b project? finished cars count. i just wanted to make a list since the 20b community is seeming to grow ever so slightly. so post if ya got one, and let us know how far along you are.

about me-> progress: i basically am at the early stages of my 20bFD conversion, have the 20b pulled from the front clip, have many parts needed for the install, but i have to work on the FD's engine bay from a previous owners engine fire before i can move forward. also i had a few set backs for the interior (had to rip it all out) and i made a few cosmetic decitions so that is taking a bunch of my time right now as well. i think im going to leave the interior out untill i get this thing running.

current goals: get the 20b mounted in the car! im attempting to use the 20b ecu (for starters...then move on to the haltech), but the wiring is a nightmare, and i already can think of some problems (such as how to run the 2 FD fans without the FD ecu)... i may give up and just go directly for the haltech, but that will alter my plan of attack. -heath
Old 04-08-04 | 04:46 PM
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I am with my FD. My status:

Have the engine, have the subframe, have the chassis, have a lot of misc parts. Still need to buy a Haltech E11k ECU, a complete ignition system and a whole lot of smaller parts. I'm in the process of rebuilding and porting the engine, and I'm hoping to have it all done by mid July, though I'm skeptical of that because right now I still need another $3,000. AT LEAST. The total cost right now is hovering around $12k
Old 04-09-04 | 03:57 AM
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I have 20B #756. I worked on it a little today to get it ready to test fire soon. I'll try to get an audio clip.
Old 04-09-04 | 12:34 PM
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I'm doing one. It is on hold right now so I can finnish up my vert project which is nearing completion and can seen here https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...hreadid=292442

The 20b car's suspension and rearend are done along with the widebody install. Still need to mate the fc2000 front end to it. The engine was built by Pineapple Racing and is a dry sumped large steet ported b-series engine with ceramic seals to name the main stuff. It has been located down 1-3/4" and back 4" from original TII location. Dry sump system plumbing is almost done with dual oil coolers. Have a bunch of other parts laying around that I need to install once the ball gets rolling on it again. Still need way to much to list as of now....
Old 04-09-04 | 04:16 PM
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count me in w/ B985 going into my M1 miata. Engine bay empty and motor ready to drop in on or about 4/15
Old 04-09-04 | 04:39 PM
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ooohhhh 3rotor miata??? i want pictures!! tell me more about your planned setup! ive been wanting to do a 13b or 7b miata for some time now. i have a miata as a daily driver...they are really fun!
Old 04-09-04 | 07:24 PM
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I have a D133 engine. I'm waiting to buy Microtech's latests version ecu the LT12S. I only need a light weight flywheel to get mine installed and a few other minor things. Untill then I will be doing some efficiancy experimenting on the 13b while its still running great. I will be installing a crap load of gauges and water injection on my stock car to get a baseline on how well everything runs. Then I will install some of my custom 20b components to see how well that set-up improves the stock numbers. Hopefull the engine will go in this summer.
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fi addict, did you get BanzaiToyota's engine?

Rotormotor, uata (you ought to) do a two rotor engine in your Miata. I'd like to put a 6.54B in something small.

t-von, I'm doing almost exactly what you're doing. I'm setting up my car with stuff that will benefit both a 13B and a 20B. I recently rebuilt a 13B and it's in the engine bay. After I get a baseline (seat of the pants) with the 13B, I'll be able to feel what a 20B can do. I've just gotta get it running first.
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jeff20b, i wasnt planning on doing anything with the daily driver (except maybe adding a turbo)... but i have been thinking about a rotary miata for some time now! i believe pettit did a single rotor engine at some point.... with a small turbo and proper tuning (im speculating) you should be able to hit 180HP or so...and it would be light as all hell.
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put a one rotor in a 67 cooper. 6.54b sounds so sweet. .65T and i guess you might be able to make some power out of it too OMG if you could make say 150hp out of it and 75ft/lbs even it could be a good swap for a miata engine
I didnt get banzai's engine.
pics will come soon! i had some up of the rear already. Im still getting parts together and finalizing the turbo choice.
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Originally posted by Jeff20B
fi addict, did you get BanzaiToyota's engine?
Nope, I did Its D659
Old 04-10-04 | 03:15 PM
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I have my motor mount'd in the car and to the tranny/20b #48/ that's right #0-4-8/ as I type manifold, turbo, DP, and Intercooler Piping being fab'd/ lack clutch, flywheel and Halteck, hope to have car running by September
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Originally posted by fi addict
put a one rotor in a 67 cooper. 6.54b sounds so sweet. .65T and i guess you might be able to make some power out of it too OMG if you could make say 150hp out of it and 75ft/lbs even it could be a good swap for a miata engine
I didnt get banzai's engine.
pics will come soon! i had some up of the rear already. Im still getting parts together and finalizing the turbo choice.
sorry to get off topic but would you by any chance have an audio clip of a single rotor?? i have always wanted to hear one...

back on topic: i was assuming the miata was going to be a 20b NA! i had no idea you were putting a turbo on!!!! you will need some major chassis bracing and one hell of a roll bar .... people on this forum usuallys bash on miatas, obviously they have never driven one. -heath
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I'm putting a 20B into a Porsche 914. See Pictures Below:





It weighs 1400 lbs right now without an engine. I hope to stay under 2000 lbs when it's all done.

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Old 04-11-04 | 07:58 AM
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8 or 10pt cage going in the miata
and when driving it i dont think i could handle over 450rwhp. I also have never heard a single rotor but in thinking about it im sure a 12000rpm redline wouldnt be out of the question. Port the hell out of a single rotor and pop a to4 on it
***someone do it! PLEASE***
the cooper is 1100lbs? and with a single rotor WOW could it get any lighter?
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Originally posted by SoloRacer
I'm putting a 20B into a Porsche 914. See Pictures Below:
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It weighs 1400 lbs right now without an engine. I hope to stay under 2000 lbs when it's all done.
Badass!
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I'm going to extend port a single rotor 13B. I'm also going to run 0/180 degree leading sparks so it'll sound less like put-put-put if you know what I mean.

Speaking of that, I'm curious what my 20B will sound like with Rotary engineering glasspacks. They're almost 15 years old, but they still sound fine. This still have the glass stuff in them too. Amazing.
Old 04-12-04 | 07:15 PM
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20b fd
status :engine in car , car starts and runs , only thing left to do now is i/c piping and a/c lines , currently busy with a/c lines , i/c piping is supposed to be done by the end off this week .....we will see
got large single turbo (t76) full street port , and doweled engine , i will run stock injectors now but plans are to upgrade injectors and fuel pump later and add nos
ultimate goal is to run 25psi plus nos then dyno the thing .....i know it will start breaking parts like crazy.......but should be pretty damn fun to drive
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Since you bought it up - what are you doing to keep a/c? My plan was just to mount the condensor horotizontally (tells you where my priorities are...) and run new lines.
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I have mine mounted to the front of the radiator, using a transmission cooler mounting kit.
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What did you do for the lines?
Old 04-13-04 | 05:30 AM
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My car didn't need converting. It came with a 20B engine from the factory........
Old 04-13-04 | 06:29 AM
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we are doing a 20B into 1st gen. Will be running a 4/71 supercharger (may go to 6/71 yet) injectred and intercooled. Just need a few more parts (expensive ones unfortunately) beofr we pull th emotor from my JC Cosmo.
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i always wanted to put a 3 or 4 rotor into a 944 but then i rember the rx7 beat back the 944 in everything except power so i guess not ......only if i had the mulas ill put a 4 rotor into a ferrari
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i modified the existing lines ,and jhonny if you mount the intercooler horizontally , if you have a fan on it ,it will work , i used to have that setup on my 2-rotor



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