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#301
Good eve. guys.
Just got back from Seven Stock X
Glad to see all the interest & exchange of ideas !
We'll be up & runing again w/ everything this week.
A bit tired, but hey ......
Got all clutch info + pricing for GB. coming.
GT1-20b
Just got back from Seven Stock X
Glad to see all the interest & exchange of ideas !
We'll be up & runing again w/ everything this week.
A bit tired, but hey ......
Got all clutch info + pricing for GB. coming.
GT1-20b
#305
Hello all,
Been away for nearly a month.
Race season is winding down, so back to buss. and projects.
Last items left to cover: CLUTCH OPTIONS, & PRICING.
As to CLUTCH options :
Any one looking at either full Carbon/ Carbon, or
any 5.5" or 7.25" inch Race Clutch in Sintered Iron or Cerametalic lining,
can purchase the following Flywheels from Mazda Speed Motorsports:
P/n : 0000-02-9207. Aluminum Full Race flywheel for 5.5" inch multy disc Clutch.
P/n : 0000-02-9204. Aluminum Race/Sport flywheel for 7.25" inch multy disc Clutch.
These Flywheels will accept any: Tilton, Ace, or Quarter Master(QM), Dual, Triple, or Quad Disc setups.
The -9204 will also accept Clutch Master's 7.25 Dual, and Ram's also.
These Mazda Flywheels are manufactured by "FIDENZA" , and were designed by "Iannetti".
The Flywheel illustrated in the pictures of the Kit are made by Billington Manufacturing in Modesto California.
Designed and raced by the late Chuck Billington.
It is my faborite of all the 5.5's as it offfers the lowest "Monent of Innersia" of all flywheels ever, and is available directly from Billington or through us at CLR.
On the more "Streetable" side, besides a full Carbon Clutch, Both Tilton and Quarter Master (QM), offer an 8.5" inch Dual Disc Clutch that is both streetable and affortable.
Colaborating w/ QM, I have designed a Steel Flywheel for the 8.5 "Rally"
Dual Disc Clutch package.
This Larger Diameter Clutch Disc, offers great modulation, smooth engagement, long life, and serviceability of individual and separete parts.
This Flywheel will be offers in both a very "Light Weight Steel" version, about 5.2 pound,+ the weight of the Clutch, and also :
A "Heavy" version, about 24 pounds + the Clutch for the Drag Racers.
Either version will be machined to accept both the 8.5 Rally, or the 7.25 Race/ sport Clutch.
Last and NOT YET confirmed:,we are currently working on a modified version of this "Rally" 8.5" Clutch Cover that may very well accept Sprung Hubs as an upgrade street option.
Prices to follow.
CLR Motorsports
GT1-20b
#306
Pricing: as of 10/15/07
Flywheels, Mazda Speed :
0000-02-9207 Aluminum 5.5".. flywheels : 521.oo
0000-02-9204 Aluminum 7.25" flywheels : 380.oo
5.5 or 7.25 Multy Disc Clutch packages, icluding Carbon :
for Tilton, call Taylor Race eng. in Tx. (That's who I use)
for QM, call CLR, or QM direct.
for any other Brand, call manufacturer direct.
I am not listing prices for the above Clutch packages, as there are way too many options and variables that may apply
any one looking for advice, feel free to call me @ CLR.
The 8.5" "Rally" Dual Disc Clutch package is : $ 799.oo
The Driven Clutch Discs are : $ 109.00 ea. X (2)
* These Discs require the Supra 30.8mm X 14 Spline Hub and are special order from both Tilton & QM.
The CLR/ QM's 8.5/ 7.25 Steel Flywheels are : $ 639.oo each.
Either Heavy or Light, same price.
These Flywheels are CAD/ CAM by Quarter Master for CLR. and made to order.
If a GB can be arranged, the price will drop by a large amount.
QM requires a commitment run of a minimum of 12 units to be considered an "OTS"
(On the Shelf) item and therefore a much lower per unit price can be had.
Last, the Sprung Hub option.
If succesfull in fitment, it will provably add another $ 90.oo or so to the total.
Again, any questions please call.
Carlos
CLR Motorsports Inc.
GT1-20b
Flywheels, Mazda Speed :
0000-02-9207 Aluminum 5.5".. flywheels : 521.oo
0000-02-9204 Aluminum 7.25" flywheels : 380.oo
5.5 or 7.25 Multy Disc Clutch packages, icluding Carbon :
for Tilton, call Taylor Race eng. in Tx. (That's who I use)
for QM, call CLR, or QM direct.
for any other Brand, call manufacturer direct.
I am not listing prices for the above Clutch packages, as there are way too many options and variables that may apply
any one looking for advice, feel free to call me @ CLR.
The 8.5" "Rally" Dual Disc Clutch package is : $ 799.oo
The Driven Clutch Discs are : $ 109.00 ea. X (2)
* These Discs require the Supra 30.8mm X 14 Spline Hub and are special order from both Tilton & QM.
The CLR/ QM's 8.5/ 7.25 Steel Flywheels are : $ 639.oo each.
Either Heavy or Light, same price.
These Flywheels are CAD/ CAM by Quarter Master for CLR. and made to order.
If a GB can be arranged, the price will drop by a large amount.
QM requires a commitment run of a minimum of 12 units to be considered an "OTS"
(On the Shelf) item and therefore a much lower per unit price can be had.
Last, the Sprung Hub option.
If succesfull in fitment, it will provably add another $ 90.oo or so to the total.
Again, any questions please call.
Carlos
CLR Motorsports Inc.
GT1-20b
#309
Minor tapping of holes, and finishing details on Starter mount.
Let me know.
B/regards
Carlos
Last edited by GT1-20b; 10-21-07 at 09:52 PM.
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QUESTION CAN this setup work with a 1jz tranny...which is cheaper....or a 7mgte tranny with a JZ bell houseing...both setup bolts rite up to 2jz motor...so it would beable to bolt rite up to that plate of urs...????? I know 7mgte tranny holds up to 700hp IN stock form...
#313
Hey guys,
I know a couple of you had expressed serious interest in this, so I'm going ahead w/ the GB on the 100% brand spankin new JDM (V161) Supra Getrag trannies. I'll be placing the order THIS month, so get in on it while you can. Here's the GB thread: https://www.rx7club.com/fdnewbie-imports-172/gb-100%25-brand-new-jdm-v161-supra-getrag-trannies-710133/#post7582711
Thanks!
~Ramy
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I know a couple of you had expressed serious interest in this, so I'm going ahead w/ the GB on the 100% brand spankin new JDM (V161) Supra Getrag trannies. I'll be placing the order THIS month, so get in on it while you can. Here's the GB thread: https://www.rx7club.com/fdnewbie-imports-172/gb-100%25-brand-new-jdm-v161-supra-getrag-trannies-710133/#post7582711
Thanks!
~Ramy
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Guys,
THere's a local Toyota Dealership near me and I know the owners son. They will do a brand new Supra Tranny for $4500.
Thompson Toyota
1101 Business Center Way
Edgewood, Md
410-679-1500
THere's a local Toyota Dealership near me and I know the owners son. They will do a brand new Supra Tranny for $4500.
Thompson Toyota
1101 Business Center Way
Edgewood, Md
410-679-1500
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That's a lot more money that what a Dodge dealer quoted me for a new TR6060 Viper 6 speed gearbox. I still don't see why people are shying away form using a modern T-56 or TR6060 instead of a Supra box.
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Dave, NO ONE inside the US (and *almost* no one outside of the US) can get V161s new - save for me I can pretty much guarantee that.
That, and it shifts like crap at high rpm, and has very limited options for shifter positioning.
The gear ratios suck, among other things, at least with the T-56. Not sure about a TR6060 though.
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2. There are lots of options for shifter position. You can even use a tri-pod style tail like what the Supra box has.
3. Another forum member is using a modern T-56 with his 20b and said it shifts fine at high rpm. Have you driven a C6 or C6 Z06 Corvette? I thought the transmission felt much better than the stock FD box and it shifted fine above 6,000.
I have not had a chance to try the new TR6060. It is supposed to be the biggest redesign yet and more or less has completely new internals. Among other things, it is supposed to shift smoother at high rpm. They have been building T-56 gearboxes for the better part of 10 years, and there have been a lot of improvements over that time, so you have to be careful when making generalizations about them.
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2. There are lots of options for shifter position.
You can even use a tri-pod style tail like what the Supra box has.
3. Another forum member is using a modern T-56 with his 20b and said it shifts fine at high rpm.
Have you driven a C6 or C6 Z06 Corvette? I thought the transmission felt much better than the stock FD box and it shifted fine above 6,000.
I have not had a chance to try the new TR6060. It is supposed to be the biggest redesign yet and more or less has completely new internals. Among other things, it is supposed to shift smoother at high rpm. They have been building T-56 gearboxes for the better part of 10 years, and there have been a lot of improvements over that time, so you have to be careful when making generalizations about them.
Not saying it's bad/won't work, but why take chances when you have a sure-fire deal?
~Ramy
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1. There are a few different TR6060 options that have suitable gear ratios and won't require a new differential as the Supra box does. I have never been crazy about the gearing of the Supra box.
2. The CTS-V box uses a floating tail and has triple/double syncros. There are a few stationary tail sections that are better options though.
3. Last time I checked that 'gazillion dollar' Viper transmission was cheaper NEW than the going rate for the USED Supra gearbox you're guiding everyone on the forum to buy.
4. We don't have a definite answer on how long it will last, but based on the 5 or so transmission shops I have spoken to in detail about this, it should be more than durable enough as long as you get one with double/triple syncros. What is their basis? -drag racing, OEM cars that use the same gearbox and redline above 7000, and the handful of rotaries that are using it.
What makes you so sure the FOURTEEN YEAR OLD USED Supra gearbox will outlast the TR6060 on a high rpm rotary? The Supra TT had a redline of 6,800 rpms.
2. The CTS-V box uses a floating tail and has triple/double syncros. There are a few stationary tail sections that are better options though.
3. Last time I checked that 'gazillion dollar' Viper transmission was cheaper NEW than the going rate for the USED Supra gearbox you're guiding everyone on the forum to buy.
4. We don't have a definite answer on how long it will last, but based on the 5 or so transmission shops I have spoken to in detail about this, it should be more than durable enough as long as you get one with double/triple syncros. What is their basis? -drag racing, OEM cars that use the same gearbox and redline above 7000, and the handful of rotaries that are using it.
What makes you so sure the FOURTEEN YEAR OLD USED Supra gearbox will outlast the TR6060 on a high rpm rotary? The Supra TT had a redline of 6,800 rpms.
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I know for a fact the the v160 will handle 9000-9500 rpms stock. I have read that the t-56 and other variations of it, will handle 10,000 rpms, however, it needs to be modified.
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2. The CTS-V box uses a floating tail and has triple/double syncros. There are a few stationary tail sections that are better options though.
3. Last time I checked that 'gazillion dollar' Viper transmission was cheaper NEW than the going rate for the USED Supra gearbox you're guiding everyone on the forum to buy.
4. We don't have a definite answer on how long it will last
but based on the 5 or so transmission shops I have spoken to in detail about this
it should be more than durable enough as long as you get one with double/triple syncros. What is their basis? -drag racing, OEM cars that use the same gearbox and redline above 7000, and the handful of rotaries that are using it.
What makes you so sure the FOURTEEN YEAR OLD USED Supra gearbox will outlast the TR6060 on a high rpm rotary?
The Supra TT had a redline of 6,800 rpms.