The rising of a new 20B KING. Part II

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Old 12-16-05, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RoTaRyBoYz
looks like its game on next year according to siguel.....2006 looks very serious for ProRWD rotarys & the 3rotor...

Rabule: ¿Y que mensaje puedes enviarle a nuestro gran amigo del norte, a Abel "Flaco" Ibarra?
Siguel: Bueno, yo le deseo una feliz navidad al "Flaco" por allá y que sí, que el año que viene es mi año y que cuando yo (auto) salga pues él está invitado a venir, que por lo menos que venga a los "blichers" y vea los tiempos o que por lo menos mande al Cano (su "pitman" que es puertorriqueño) que el Cano vive cerca pero que sí, el año que viene es mío, este año fue para los clientes y tener a todos contentos pero el próximo año es el mío. Vamos a ver lo que pasa...
Siguel's car has been off the track for at least a year and a half; with that said, I don't think he has any interest in racing any NHRA events. If 2006 is his year, I guess that means that ML won be racing any NHRA events then
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Originally Posted by KNONFS
Siguel's car has been off the track for at least a year and a half; with that said, I don't think he has any interest in racing any NHRA events. If 2006 is his year, I guess that means that ML won be racing any NHRA events then
lets hope they (ML) make it to atlease 1 Etown even to race flaco.....i think its gonna be a tug-o-war between siguel & abel, records gonna be breaking left and right.....one in PR and the other in the US , both tring to out do the other.....dem its gonna be exciting....the 3/4 chassis cars in PR are running very quick & consistant, so if they are legal (weight) to run NHRA modify class they'll give the 2jz cars a good run for there money.....
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The rising of a new 20b king, please dont make me laugh. Minor League has been to the track every wednesday and saturday for the last 4 months trying to beat Abels record at 200lbs under the NHRA limit and he still cant do it.minor league in his last 25 passes has not even been able to make a 15sec pass and has broken more motors and turbos than Able did the whole year and these Kiwi RE motors from New Zealand are very expensive about $80,000 each and he also uses 3 turbos.The King is still Abel Flaco Ibarra with or without NHRA rules.6.76@210 mph weighing 2300lbs
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Originally Posted by King Rotary
The rising of a new 20b king, please dont make me laugh. Minor League has been to the track every wednesday and saturday for the last 4 months trying to beat Abels record at 200lbs under the NHRA limit and he still cant do it.minor league in his last 25 passes has not even been able to make a 15sec pass and has broken more motors and turbos than Able did the whole year and these Kiwi RE motors from New Zealand are very expensive about $80,000 each and he also uses 3 turbos.The King is still Abel Flaco Ibarra with or without NHRA rules.6.76@210 mph weighing 2300lbs
any info to backup the claims of "breaking more motors than abel did all year"???
this thread is not to badmouth our fellow rotary tuners, y cant u just recognise there achievments & success and congratulate them on it instead of post BS....dont start that string of BS comments here like u did on ubanracer.com....im sure the other mature members on this forum will support me on this.....
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Originally Posted by ssglopezvm
Here are a few vids taken recently... curtesy of pistonvsrotor.com

60FT 1.027
330FT 2.882
1/8MILE 4.385
1,000 N/D
1/4MILE 6.814
MPH 200.60

http://68.178.140.70/videos/011-048.wmv
http://68.178.140.70/videos/009-013.wmv
http://68.178.140.70/videos/009-029.wmv
Thanks for posting the videos!
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If you want back up call kiwi for the motors info and Garret for the turbo info and I am recognizing the achievements and success of Flacos record of 6.76@210mph its not my fault that you hate the fact that Flaco has the fastest rotary in the world and that Flaco is the real king.Now you prove me wrong and tell me how fast minor league has ran in the past 3 months I will answer for you NADA.
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Originally Posted by KNONFS
If you fail to see it, I guess there is more to you than being a smart *** Yup we brag about our people, while you criticize other peoples work; similarities?
You totally missed the point.
Are you saying your BRAGGING ABOUT BDC?


NONE of us have a car that can match those of who we brag or in your case criticize, get it ?
See above.


BTW - when was the last time you TRUELY helped somebody in the rotary community? you USED to be a cool dude, what happened?
Wow, I just love your logic.
I guess it's nice to be just living in your world.


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Originally Posted by naldy31
If we used RETed system we'd have a world without sports and entertainment.
8<

I guess your comprehension is different than my comprehension, cause the rest of your explanation did not make any sense to me.

I'm not talking about the bragging part - really, I don't give a ****.

I'm talking about the arguing part about who is faster and who isn't.

Is that part of bragging?
Trash talking maybe...
So what's the usefulness in arguing who is faster / quicker?
I find no use for stuff like that - this **** should be thrown in The Lounge.

Bottom line - in life, there are spectators and particpants.
I guess I can call you a spectator then?


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Originally Posted by King Rotary
The rising of a new 20b king, please dont make me laugh. Minor League has been to the track every wednesday and saturday for the last 4 months trying to beat Abels record at 200lbs under the NHRA limit and he still cant do it.minor league in his last 25 passes has not even been able to make a 15sec pass and has broken more motors and turbos than Able did the whole year and these Kiwi RE motors from New Zealand are very expensive about $80,000 each and he also uses 3 turbos.The King is still Abel Flaco Ibarra with or without NHRA rules.6.76@210 mph weighing 2300lbs
You don't know what you are talking about!

First off, ML has not been raced on a weekly bassis; and assuming they are breaking engines left and right, Siguel is now working on the engine, meaning they are not coming from NZ. I believe the only thing you got right was :

NHRA Rules + 3 rotors
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Originally Posted by RETed
You totally missed the point.
Are you saying your BRAGGING ABOUT BDC?
I don't brag about BDC, I just don't know the guy; however I don't post on any of his thread BRAGGING on how his ports aren't shape properly, and how the HP figures can be matched on one of your street\race port, etc...


Originally Posted by RETed
Wow, I just love your logic.
I guess it's nice to be just living in your world.
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Yeah, I love my logic too Don't worry my worlsd is not as low as yours, the proof is in the forum
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Originally Posted by RETed
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I'm talking about the arguing part about who is faster and who isn't.
Hmmm, you mean like this:


Originally Posted by RETed
Oh don't worry.
It's coming.
I put money it'll do better than the "424".
-Ted
AND

Originally Posted by RETed
Oh, as for the repeatability of the dyno runs.
If this is the case, something is drastically wrong.
If the dyno graphs are consistently wavy like that, I would put the blame squarely on the tuner...

Now that just opened another whole can of worms...
-Ted
Just like the crap you posted above on BDC's post?

Originally Posted by RETed
Bottom line - in life, there are spectators and particpants.
I guess I can call you a spectator then?


-Ted
Call me what ever you want, I live of from PCs, not cars; how about you? since you posted the following on 6/08/05:
Originally Posted by RETed
Oh don't worry.
It's coming.
I put money it'll do better than the "424".
-Ted
I hope you are ready to back it up; otherwise you ARE another SPECTATOR; playing a game; that should've been thrown to the LOUNGE
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Originally Posted by KNONFS
I don't brag about BDC, I just don't know the guy; however I don't post on any of his thread BRAGGING on how his ports aren't shape properly, and how the HP figures can be matched on one of your street\race port, etc...

Yeah, I love my logic too Don't worry my worlsd is not as low as yours, the proof is in the forum
Yeah, I guess BDC gets to play by a different set of rules then...
If that's the case, then I lose.


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Originally Posted by KNONFS
Hmmm, you mean like this:
8<

Call me what ever you want, I live of from PCs, not cars; how about you? since you posted the following on 6/08/05:
I hope you are ready to back it up; otherwise you ARE another SPECTATOR; playing a game; that should've been thrown to the LOUNGE
I call you you-have-no-idea-what-you're-talking-about.
You got some nerve coming in this thread and mucking up this **** just because you got a beef with me.
You got a problem with me, take it to PM - I got no problem arguing with you in PM.
This thread is not the time nor the place to go airing your dirty laundry with me, since you have a fascination with what I say and do, obviously since you're archiving stuff I said HALF A YEAR AGO.
I think you got a problem; it's almost bordering on fanaticism.
You really have this high disdain for me that you need to do this?
Think about it - I think you got a serious problem.

So, if I put my money where my mouth is, you gonna eat all your words?
I already can hear all the excuses...

Sorry folks for this crap, but every once in a while my detractors pull **** like this that I'm not proud of.
My involvement to this OT tangent ends here.


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Originally Posted by King Rotary
If you want back up call kiwi for the motors info and Garret for the turbo info and I am recognizing the achievements and success of Flacos record of 6.76@210mph its not my fault that you hate the fact that Flaco has the fastest rotary in the world and that Flaco is the real king.Now you prove me wrong and tell me how fast minor league has ran in the past 3 months I will answer for you NADA.
no one is hateing on flaco, im actually one of flaco's biggest fan and in my opinion i think he is the king...so what if Siguel broke a few motors, remember when abel broke something at almost every event and had to switch back to the 13b? i guess u dont remember huh!!
in the world of high HP rotarys $hit is gonna break on a regular basis, because the amount of power thats being extracted out of these motors, its just insane.....how long did it take Abel to run those consistant 6's and to finally understand the 20b a little ,he still hasnt master the 20b yet & still dont have a stable tune-up...only a handfull of guys have actually had a chance to mess with a short crank 3rotor and ML is the only car (dont mention dennis's car) to show the potential of that 3rotor... give the ML car a chance to work out the bugs and i gurantee u that it WILL be a record setter because i think the short crank motor will make more RELIABLE power than a 20b ...... i congratulate Flaco on what hes doing with the 20b,and i think its fair to give him the title of "king of the 20b" but i think with the right tuning & the proper combo of parts that short crank 3rotor will smoke that 20b anyday....

BTW guys try to keep this thread on track before the mods lock it...thanks
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Originally Posted by RETed
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I call you you-have-no-idea-what-you're-talking-about.
You got some nerve coming in this thread and mucking up this **** just because you got a beef with me.
You got a problem with me, take it to PM - I got no problem arguing with you in PM.
This thread is not the time nor the place to go airing your dirty laundry with me, since you have a fascination with what I say and do, obviously since you're archiving stuff I said HALF A YEAR AGO.
I think you got a problem; it's almost bordering on fanaticism.
You really have this high disdain for me that you need to do this?
Think about it - I think you got a serious problem.

So, if I put my money where my mouth is, you gonna eat all your words?
I already can hear all the excuses...

Sorry folks for this crap, but every once in a while my detractors pull **** like this that I'm not proud of.
My involvement to this OT tangent ends here.


-Ted
Beef with you, yeah right!

You started some **** in here, and since I posted before you did (defending my people); I took your smart *** comments directly!

I am not archiving ****, SEARCH is a powerfull tool

So now you want to put money on it? how much? I got $25 that says that you DON'T HAVE A DYNO showing a 424HP at the wheels on a 13B 60-1 HI-FI (or smaller turbo). **** make it a $75, you got till Monday night to prove me wrong, otherwise you are (as stated before, another SPECTATOR)

Are you in? You can request the money to my paypal account knonfs@yahoo.com, lets stop the BS and step up to the plate; please prove this spectator wrong
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ML videos with problems

Here are some videos of ML testing at a local track(super sea level track you Know).

http://68.178.140.70/videos/011-048.wmv


http://68.178.140.70/videos/011-032.wmv

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We are 1 % of all the people in racing. The other 99% are pistons. We are never going to get anywhere if we fight with each other. The rotary will die and become a legend of the past if everybody doesn't put their macho proud hormones aside and focus on development and competing against the true enemy of rotaries - bigger piston motors. Let's all do our part.
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**** with all this **** there are only 2 rotaries in the whole world that are in the 6s. That sucks, I don't car about the rules just make the motors last a few runs and then work on the times little by little.
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A few vids... last week at Salinas International Speedway, PR

THANKS to my friend Angel Gautier form AGRACINGPHOTO.COM


ALL PASSES DONE DURING THE EVENT.

Major League 7.00 @ 195MPH
http://www.agracingvideo.com/videos/salinas/ext/V21.wmv

Major League 6.86 @ 197MPH
http://www.agracingvideo.com/videos/salinas/ext/V25.wmv

Major League 8.84 @ 148MPH
http://www.agracingvideo.com/videos/V6.wmv

Major League 7.11 @ 195MPH
http://www.agracingvideo.com/videos/salinas/ext/V15.wmv

Major League 7.22 @ 196MPH
http://www.agracingvideo.com/videos/V12.wmv
Old 11-21-06, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Outkast
**** with all this **** there are only 2 rotaries in the whole world that are in the 6s. That sucks, I don't car about the rules just make the motors last a few runs and then work on the times little by little.
There are actually five that have gone into the 6s.

Lets's see-->
USA...... 1
PR........ 2
AUS..... 2
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5 Drivers, 6 Cars. Abel in both the RX7 & Rx8
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5 Drivers, 6 Cars. Abel in both the RX7 & Rx8
True!
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Originally Posted by mad20b
5 Drivers, 6 Cars. Abel in both the RX7 & Rx8
Well, call it 4 drivers, 6 cars. Siguel ran the times in both his RX7 and Major League.
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So this information is wrong?

Outright Rotary Top 10 – [World]

1.Abel Ibarra 6.76@204 20BT+Gforce [Full Chassis]
2.Angel Rodriguez "Major Leauge" 6.81@200 20BTTT+Gforce [Full Chassis]
3. Jose Torres ''Siguel Racing'' 6.89@197 20BT+Gforce [Full Chassis]
4.Abel Ibarra 6.95@199 20BTT+Gforce [Full Chassis]
5. Rocky/George Rehayem 6.96@196 20BTT+Gforce [Full Chassis]
6.Archie Kajewski 6.99@201 20BTTT+Gforce [Full Chassis]


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