The rising of a new 20B KING. Part II
08-11-05, 09:20 AM
#51
Originally Posted by kabooski
Dennis the menace
has had this car over 4 years now with a 3 rotor
it breaks motors all the time
and I don''t even think it has run a 7 second pass in competition
It also had a motor built by Alec at Kiwi
and the result is? it runs like ****
Siguel is a MASTER TUNER the the diffrence
thats is 100% the reason for why this car runs what it runs
has had this car over 4 years now with a 3 rotor
it breaks motors all the time
and I don''t even think it has run a 7 second pass in competition
It also had a motor built by Alec at Kiwi
and the result is? it runs like ****
Siguel is a MASTER TUNER the the diffrence
thats is 100% the reason for why this car runs what it runs
It's going to get you no where. I don't understand why you guys have to talk so much **** about everyone else. It's really childish.
We should be supporting all rotary's regardless of who they are because if we dont' stick together were just going to keep getting pissed on by the piston guys.
They are out there kicking our asses all over the place and were no where in sight.
08-11-05, 12:12 PM
#52
Rotary Enthusiast
Originally Posted by kabooski
Dennis the menace
has had this car over 4 years now with a 3 rotor
it breaks motors all the time
and I don''t even think it has run a 7 second pass in competition
It also had a motor built by Alec at Kiwi
and the result is? it runs like ****
Siguel is a MASTER TUNER the the diffrence
thats is 100% the reason for why this car runs what it runs
Alec Bell built the original engine that has been rebuilt by Siguel, only to be freshened up and inspected where it was all found to be fine. Well done on the engine Alec. However lets get things straight, many others have used the same engines without success and the only others to run within a bulls roar of these types of times are either repairing or freshening their engines every chance they get. Sorry if I have disillusioned any of you, but that is why they are where they are.
SIGUEL AHS THE KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE TO MAKE THIS CAR DO WHAT IT HAS DONE AND THE CREDIT FOR ITS PERFORMANCE GOES TO HIM AND HIM ALONE. The credit for the car goes to its owners and sponsors (Major League Team), as they have made this happen and paid the dollars to everyone else involved.
All of the other parties (workshops or products used) have their own shops and cars and could not blow sunshine up this things rear end.
As for the weight or legallity of this car, I am unaware that there is a rulebook for the worlds fastest rotor and I can assure you that you could throw a blanket over the top 10 3 rotors weights and vehicle specifications. Also keep in mind that this is its 5th time out with promise of much much more.
As for the people with all of the good sources, I can personally assure you that no-one would have the slightest idea of how Siguel has set the Map/ Clutch or other specs in this car so please, "Do not speak **** of what you do not know anything about", that quote came directly from the man so if you dont like that perhaps you take that up with Siguel himself.
REgards-Anthony Rodrigues
has had this car over 4 years now with a 3 rotor
it breaks motors all the time
and I don''t even think it has run a 7 second pass in competition
It also had a motor built by Alec at Kiwi
and the result is? it runs like ****
Siguel is a MASTER TUNER the the diffrence
thats is 100% the reason for why this car runs what it runs
Alec Bell built the original engine that has been rebuilt by Siguel, only to be freshened up and inspected where it was all found to be fine. Well done on the engine Alec. However lets get things straight, many others have used the same engines without success and the only others to run within a bulls roar of these types of times are either repairing or freshening their engines every chance they get. Sorry if I have disillusioned any of you, but that is why they are where they are.
SIGUEL AHS THE KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE TO MAKE THIS CAR DO WHAT IT HAS DONE AND THE CREDIT FOR ITS PERFORMANCE GOES TO HIM AND HIM ALONE. The credit for the car goes to its owners and sponsors (Major League Team), as they have made this happen and paid the dollars to everyone else involved.
All of the other parties (workshops or products used) have their own shops and cars and could not blow sunshine up this things rear end.
As for the weight or legallity of this car, I am unaware that there is a rulebook for the worlds fastest rotor and I can assure you that you could throw a blanket over the top 10 3 rotors weights and vehicle specifications. Also keep in mind that this is its 5th time out with promise of much much more.
As for the people with all of the good sources, I can personally assure you that no-one would have the slightest idea of how Siguel has set the Map/ Clutch or other specs in this car so please, "Do not speak **** of what you do not know anything about", that quote came directly from the man so if you dont like that perhaps you take that up with Siguel himself.
REgards-Anthony Rodrigues
And if you are going for the worlds fastest rotor. Why a dragstrip? goto a salt flats and let it rip. But if your going for a dragstrip record, then you need to follow those rules, otherwise your just in a class of your own.
One way to settle this.... 5th Annual NHRA Sport Compact World Finals Pomona Raceway, Pomona, California. Want to get world bragging rights? Go there to represent the fastest rotaries along with Flaco. If you beat him and get the record, then thats a bonus
.
08-11-05, 12:18 PM
#53
DRAG RACING
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by Bern
You missed the point... yes they all count, but are they equal? If the cars are not set to the same rules or specifications, then is it fair to compare them? And who is the authority or overseer of the Rotary world record? If the only thing that mattered to all parties discussed here, was the fastest Rotary-in-the-World contest, then this would be true... but that only matters to fools like us on this forum, and a few true-blue rotary guys around the world. It gives us something to bitch, moan, and argue about on these forums, that's it, really. If there were a serious prize for this deal, then I'd start building a serious rotary rail and kill this deal, but that's not the reality of this deal.... is it? All that some people are trying to bring across is that to compare, the cars should be built to the same specs. If ML breaks our enthusiast created and much prized rotary record, cool.... but what does it mean? Just some publicity and bragging rights.... no pro championships or major sponsorships waiting in the wings.
And no where have you seen on here that anyone has said that the talents of Flaco are greater than any of the folks you mentioned. All have much talent and thankfully they are exploiting them, along with their resources, for our enjoyment and wonderment.... not denying anything!
On the NHRA PRO-RWD class, yes there are restrictions (please read above), and no Flaco is NOT allowed to run 3-turbos in NHRA, no more than 2 allowed.
2005 NHRA Season, FLACO Performance to date:
Florida:
7.011 / 197.49
7.733 / 188.71
Las Vegas:
6.764 / 204.35
6.844 / 204.20
E-Town: *(one run only, due to rain delay)
9.545 / 122.30
ATCO:
6.959 / 204.49
6.790 / 193.38
7.078 / 198.50
Colorado:
8.927 / 164.33
7.233 / 191.05
7.535 / 180.02
7.143 / 195.14
Still 4 NHRA rounds left in the season.... the car did get down the track a few times!
There are a few more slower than 8 second passes I didn't post.... but not in the scope of this discussion anyway. All these passes were done in competition.
-Bern
And no where have you seen on here that anyone has said that the talents of Flaco are greater than any of the folks you mentioned. All have much talent and thankfully they are exploiting them, along with their resources, for our enjoyment and wonderment.... not denying anything!
On the NHRA PRO-RWD class, yes there are restrictions (please read above), and no Flaco is NOT allowed to run 3-turbos in NHRA, no more than 2 allowed.
2005 NHRA Season, FLACO Performance to date:
Florida:
7.011 / 197.49
7.733 / 188.71
Las Vegas:
6.764 / 204.35
6.844 / 204.20
E-Town: *(one run only, due to rain delay)
9.545 / 122.30
ATCO:
6.959 / 204.49
6.790 / 193.38
7.078 / 198.50
Colorado:
8.927 / 164.33
7.233 / 191.05
7.535 / 180.02
7.143 / 195.14
Still 4 NHRA rounds left in the season.... the car did get down the track a few times!
There are a few more slower than 8 second passes I didn't post.... but not in the scope of this discussion anyway. All these passes were done in competition.-Bern
According to Pistonvsrotor.com this is what i found.... Is in spanish but you can easily figure out what Abel results are for 2005.
1st EVENT: Florida.
Round one: 9.03 @ 118 MPH
Round two: no show.
Round tree: 7.01 @ 197 MPH
Eliminations
Round one: 7.73 @ 188 MPH y pierde frente a Matt Scranton que establece 7.66 @ 169 MPH.
Abel Ibarra no logro hacer 6 segundos y se fue en la primera ronda. Mejor ET de Abel fue de 7.01 @ 197 MPH.
2nd EVENT: Las Vegas, Nevada.
Round one: 6.76 @ 204 MPH
Round two: 6.83 @ 204 MPH
Round tree: 14.02 @ 50 MPH
Eliminations
Round one: PROB
Pero no certifica sus 6.76 para certificarlos necesita hacer menos de 6.827. Luego de 2 jugosos pases de 6 segundos establece 14.02 @ 50 MPH se pierde por 8 segundos. TREMENDO! En la primera ronda de eliminatorias rompio y pierde ante Brad Personett que establece 6.52 @ 217 MPH.
3rd EVENT: Englishtown, N.J.
Round one: 9.54 @ 122 MPH
Round two: PROB
Round tree: PROB
No cualifico en el evento y no pudo llegar ni a la primera ronda.
4th EVENT: Atco, N.J.
Round one: 25.19 @ 28 MPH
Round two: 6.95 @ 204 MPH
Round tree: 6.79 @ 204 MPH
Eliminations
Round one: 7.07 @ 198 MPH pero Ara Arslanian viene como las olas del mar DE ATRAS PA ALANTE y le gana a Ibarra con 6.89 @ 202 MPH.
5th EVENT: Topeka, Kansas.
Round one: 9.51 @ 111 MPH.
Round two: none
Round tree: none
Eliminations
Round one: 8.63 @ 170 MPH y pierde ante Stephan Papadakis con 8.40 @ 167 MPH.
6th EVENT: Morrison, Colorado.
Round one: 8.92 @ 164 MPH
Round two: 7.23 @ 191 MPH
Round tree: 7.53 @ 180 MPH
Eliminations
Round one: 7.14 @ 195 MPH En la primera ronda de eliminatorias Ibarra se va ooootra vez... y pierde frente a Brad Personett con 6.73 @ 208 MPH.
Suerte en los próximos 5 eventos que quedan, que la van a necesitar... Solo veo 4 pases de 6 segundos en 6 eventos.
También estuve analizando sobre Abel Ibarra en la serie NHRA Sport Compact 2004:
1st EVENT 2004: Fontana, California.
Round one: No show
Round two: No show
Round tree: 18.75 @ 150 MPH
En la primera ronda de Qualifying Ibarra no aparece ni en los centros espiritista al igual que en la segunda ronda de Qualifying. En la tercera ronda de Qualifying Ibarra cualifica #7 con 18.75 @ 150 MPH.
Eliminations
Round one: 8.49 @ 136 MPH
En la primera ronda de eliminatorias Ibarra se va por que su motor se hizo cantos y perdio frente a Ara Arslanian con 8.49 @ 136 MPH.
2nd EVENT 2004: West Palm Beach, Florida.
Round one: No show
Round two: 19.10 @ 49 MPH
Round two: 22.73 @ 33 MPH ( did not qualify )
3rd EVENT 2004. Englishtown, N.J.
Round one: 8.63 @ 110 MPH
Round two: same
Round tree: same
Eliminations
Round one: 6.84 @ 190 MPH le gana a Tirso Sanjuan con 9.71 @ 96 MPH y pasa a la segunda ronda por primera vez!
Round two: No show
En la segunda ronda de eliminatorias Ibarra no se presenta y pierde ante Brad Personett con 7.06 @ 198 MPH.
4th EVENT: Atco, N.J.
Round one: 30.98 @ 22 MPH
Round two: 9.59 @ 139 MPH
Round tree: same ( did not qualify )
En la tercera ronda de Qualifying Ibarra se queda en la misma posición de 9.59 @ 139 MPH. No cualifica en el evento.
5th EVENT 2004: Atco, N.J.
Round one: 10. 63 @ 88 MPH
Round two: 8.93 @ 139 MPH
Round tree: 17.72 @ 47 MPH
Eliminations
Round one: 9.72 @ 133 MPH
En la primera ronda de eliminatorias Ibarra establece 9.72 @ 133 MPH y pierde ante Matt Scranton con 7.06 @ 198 MPH.
6th EVENT 2004: Las Vegas, Nevada.
Round one: PROB
Round two: No show
Round tree: 31.99 @ 50 MPH
Eliminations
Round one: 7.20 @ 192 MPH
En la primera ronda de eliminatorias Ibarra establece 7.20 @ 192 MPH y pierde frente a Stephan Papadakis con 6.75 @ 198 MPH.
7th EVENT 2004. Ennis, Texas.
Round one: 9.85 @ 90 MPH
Round two: 10.14 @ 91 MPH
Round tree: No show
Eliminations
Round one: 7.64 @ 177
En la primera ronda de eliminatorias Ibarra establece 7.64 @ 177 MPH y gana frente a Matt Scranton que rompio su motor.
Round two: 13.45 @ 117 MPH/ slow run
En la segunda ronda de eliminatorias Abel Ibarra se va solito con un 13.45 @ 117 MPH.
Round tree: RED
En la final Abel Ibarra se jampio la luz y establece 8.19 @ 166 MPH y pierde ante Matt Hartford con 13.81 @ 62 MPH.
8th EVENT 2004. Madison, Illinois.
Round one: 10.51 @ 89 MPH
Round two: 8.68 @ 156 MPH
Round tree: 7.00 @ 197 MPH
Eliminations
Round one: 7.02 @ 195 MPH
En la primera ronda de eliminatorias como siempre...Abel Ibarra establece 7.02 @ 195 MPH y pierde ante Stephan Papadakis con 6.82 @ 205 MPH.
9th EVENT 2004. Englishtown, N.J.
Round one: 13.38 @ 63 MPH
Round two: 6.79 @ 204 MPH
Round tree: 24.19 @ 29 MPH ... QUE TALENTO!
Eliminations
Round one: 6.93 @ 204 MPH y gana frente a Matt Scranton que establece 6.94 @ 203 MPH.
Round two: 7.63 @ 136 MPH y pierde ante Stephan Papadakis con 7.40 @ 186 MPH. TREMENDO!
10th EVENT 2004: Pomona, California.
Round one: PROB
Round two: 22.44 @ 36 MPH
Round tree: 19.13 @ 44 MPH
Eliminations
Round one: 17.18 @ 47 MPH
En la primera ronda de eliminatorias Ibarra como siempre establece 17.18 @ 47 MPH y pierde ante Stephan Papadakis que establece 6.66 @ 210 MPH.
and THESE ARE THE RESULTS OF "the godfather of rotaries"?
La Atrevida can do way better than that
08-11-05, 12:42 PM
#54
One way to settle this.... 5th Annual NHRA Sport Compact World Finals Pomona Raceway, Pomona, California. Want to get world bragging rights? Go there to represent the fastest rotaries along with Flaco. If you beat him and get the record, then thats a bonus .[/QUOTE]
They can't run NHRA they don't allow triple turbos! All this talk someone needs to setup a MATCH RACE run what you brung. Now that's what I'm talking about. I like both these guys simply because they are rotary. Now let's see them run.
.[/QUOTE]They can't run NHRA they don't allow triple turbos! All this talk someone needs to setup a MATCH RACE run what you brung. Now that's what I'm talking about. I like both these guys simply because they are rotary. Now let's see them run.
08-11-05, 01:17 PM
#55
Originally Posted by 61620B
Less talk about who takes credit. More talk about the specs of his car. Whats so wrong about showing the engine? Afraid someone is going to copy it and get a better time? You guys sound sooo confident about your "MASTER TUNING" you dont need to worry about showing your engine.
And if you are going for the worlds fastest rotor. Why a dragstrip? goto a salt flats and let it rip. But if your going for a dragstrip record, then you need to follow those rules, otherwise your just in a class of your own.
One way to settle this.... 5th Annual NHRA Sport Compact World Finals Pomona Raceway, Pomona, California. Want to get world bragging rights? Go there to represent the fastest rotaries along with Flaco. If you beat him and get the record, then thats a bonus.
And if you are going for the worlds fastest rotor. Why a dragstrip? goto a salt flats and let it rip. But if your going for a dragstrip record, then you need to follow those rules, otherwise your just in a class of your own.
One way to settle this.... 5th Annual NHRA Sport Compact World Finals Pomona Raceway, Pomona, California. Want to get world bragging rights? Go there to represent the fastest rotaries along with Flaco. If you beat him and get the record, then thats a bonus
.BTW - You don't have to wait till Ponoma California, October @ Englishtown
08-11-05, 01:33 PM
#56
Originally Posted by 13btnos
One way to settle this.... 5th Annual NHRA Sport Compact World Finals Pomona Raceway, Pomona, California. Want to get world bragging rights? Go there to represent the fastest rotaries along with Flaco. If you beat him and get the record, then thats a bonus .
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08-11-05, 03:12 PM
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I think you two guys should
" LINE UP AND LET YOUR CARS DO THE TALKING"
TALKING **** IS HOW THE GAME GOT STARTED!
DOES WHO CAN RUN ON THE TRACK, FOR THE REST????
WELL THEIR IS ALWAYS "THE BENCH"
" LINE UP AND LET YOUR CARS DO THE TALKING"
TALKING **** IS HOW THE GAME GOT STARTED!
DOES WHO CAN RUN ON THE TRACK, FOR THE REST????
WELL THEIR IS ALWAYS "THE BENCH"
08-11-05, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ssglopezvm
According to Pistonvsrotor.com this is what i found.... Is in spanish but you can easily figure out what Abel results are for 2005.
1st EVENT: Florida.
Round one: 9.03 @ 118 MPH
Round two: no show.
Round tree: 7.01 @ 197 MPH
Eliminations
Round one: 7.73 @ 188 MPH y pierde frente a Matt Scranton que establece 7.66 @ 169 MPH.
Abel Ibarra no logro hacer 6 segundos y se fue en la primera ronda. Mejor ET de Abel fue de 7.01 @ 197 MPH.
2nd EVENT: Las Vegas, Nevada.
Round one: 6.76 @ 204 MPH
Round two: 6.83 @ 204 MPH
Round tree: 14.02 @ 50 MPH
Eliminations
Round one: PROB
Pero no certifica sus 6.76 para certificarlos necesita hacer menos de 6.827. Luego de 2 jugosos pases de 6 segundos establece 14.02 @ 50 MPH se pierde por 8 segundos. TREMENDO! En la primera ronda de eliminatorias rompio y pierde ante Brad Personett que establece 6.52 @ 217 MPH.
3rd EVENT: Englishtown, N.J.
Round one: 9.54 @ 122 MPH
Round two: PROB
Round tree: PROB
No cualifico en el evento y no pudo llegar ni a la primera ronda.
4th EVENT: Atco, N.J.
Round one: 25.19 @ 28 MPH
Round two: 6.95 @ 204 MPH
Round tree: 6.79 @ 204 MPH
Eliminations
Round one: 7.07 @ 198 MPH pero Ara Arslanian viene como las olas del mar DE ATRAS PA ALANTE y le gana a Ibarra con 6.89 @ 202 MPH.
5th EVENT: Topeka, Kansas.
Round one: 9.51 @ 111 MPH.
Round two: none
Round tree: none
Eliminations
Round one: 8.63 @ 170 MPH y pierde ante Stephan Papadakis con 8.40 @ 167 MPH.
6th EVENT: Morrison, Colorado.
Round one: 8.92 @ 164 MPH
Round two: 7.23 @ 191 MPH
Round tree: 7.53 @ 180 MPH
Eliminations
Round one: 7.14 @ 195 MPH En la primera ronda de eliminatorias Ibarra se va ooootra vez... y pierde frente a Brad Personett con 6.73 @ 208 MPH.
Suerte en los próximos 5 eventos que quedan, que la van a necesitar... Solo veo 4 pases de 6 segundos en 6 eventos.
También estuve analizando sobre Abel Ibarra en la serie NHRA Sport Compact 2004:
1st EVENT 2004: Fontana, California.
Round one: No show
Round two: No show
Round tree: 18.75 @ 150 MPH
En la primera ronda de Qualifying Ibarra no aparece ni en los centros espiritista al igual que en la segunda ronda de Qualifying. En la tercera ronda de Qualifying Ibarra cualifica #7 con 18.75 @ 150 MPH.
Eliminations
Round one: 8.49 @ 136 MPH
En la primera ronda de eliminatorias Ibarra se va por que su motor se hizo cantos y perdio frente a Ara Arslanian con 8.49 @ 136 MPH.
2nd EVENT 2004: West Palm Beach, Florida.
Round one: No show
Round two: 19.10 @ 49 MPH
Round two: 22.73 @ 33 MPH ( did not qualify )
3rd EVENT 2004. Englishtown, N.J.
Round one: 8.63 @ 110 MPH
Round two: same
Round tree: same
Eliminations
Round one: 6.84 @ 190 MPH le gana a Tirso Sanjuan con 9.71 @ 96 MPH y pasa a la segunda ronda por primera vez!
Round two: No show
En la segunda ronda de eliminatorias Ibarra no se presenta y pierde ante Brad Personett con 7.06 @ 198 MPH.
4th EVENT: Atco, N.J.
Round one: 30.98 @ 22 MPH
Round two: 9.59 @ 139 MPH
Round tree: same ( did not qualify )
En la tercera ronda de Qualifying Ibarra se queda en la misma posición de 9.59 @ 139 MPH. No cualifica en el evento.
5th EVENT 2004: Atco, N.J.
Round one: 10. 63 @ 88 MPH
Round two: 8.93 @ 139 MPH
Round tree: 17.72 @ 47 MPH
Eliminations
Round one: 9.72 @ 133 MPH
En la primera ronda de eliminatorias Ibarra establece 9.72 @ 133 MPH y pierde ante Matt Scranton con 7.06 @ 198 MPH.
6th EVENT 2004: Las Vegas, Nevada.
Round one: PROB
Round two: No show
Round tree: 31.99 @ 50 MPH
Eliminations
Round one: 7.20 @ 192 MPH
En la primera ronda de eliminatorias Ibarra establece 7.20 @ 192 MPH y pierde frente a Stephan Papadakis con 6.75 @ 198 MPH.
7th EVENT 2004. Ennis, Texas.
Round one: 9.85 @ 90 MPH
Round two: 10.14 @ 91 MPH
Round tree: No show
Eliminations
Round one: 7.64 @ 177
En la primera ronda de eliminatorias Ibarra establece 7.64 @ 177 MPH y gana frente a Matt Scranton que rompio su motor.
Round two: 13.45 @ 117 MPH/ slow run
En la segunda ronda de eliminatorias Abel Ibarra se va solito con un 13.45 @ 117 MPH.
Round tree: RED
En la final Abel Ibarra se jampio la luz y establece 8.19 @ 166 MPH y pierde ante Matt Hartford con 13.81 @ 62 MPH.
8th EVENT 2004. Madison, Illinois.
Round one: 10.51 @ 89 MPH
Round two: 8.68 @ 156 MPH
Round tree: 7.00 @ 197 MPH
Eliminations
Round one: 7.02 @ 195 MPH
En la primera ronda de eliminatorias como siempre...Abel Ibarra establece 7.02 @ 195 MPH y pierde ante Stephan Papadakis con 6.82 @ 205 MPH.
9th EVENT 2004. Englishtown, N.J.
Round one: 13.38 @ 63 MPH
Round two: 6.79 @ 204 MPH
Round tree: 24.19 @ 29 MPH ... QUE TALENTO!
Eliminations
Round one: 6.93 @ 204 MPH y gana frente a Matt Scranton que establece 6.94 @ 203 MPH.
Round two: 7.63 @ 136 MPH y pierde ante Stephan Papadakis con 7.40 @ 186 MPH. TREMENDO!
10th EVENT 2004: Pomona, California.
Round one: PROB
Round two: 22.44 @ 36 MPH
Round tree: 19.13 @ 44 MPH
Eliminations
Round one: 17.18 @ 47 MPH
En la primera ronda de eliminatorias Ibarra como siempre establece 17.18 @ 47 MPH y pierde ante Stephan Papadakis que establece 6.66 @ 210 MPH.
and THESE ARE THE RESULTS OF "the godfather of rotaries"?
La Atrevida can do way better than that
1st EVENT: Florida.
Round one: 9.03 @ 118 MPH
Round two: no show.
Round tree: 7.01 @ 197 MPH
Eliminations
Round one: 7.73 @ 188 MPH y pierde frente a Matt Scranton que establece 7.66 @ 169 MPH.
Abel Ibarra no logro hacer 6 segundos y se fue en la primera ronda. Mejor ET de Abel fue de 7.01 @ 197 MPH.
2nd EVENT: Las Vegas, Nevada.
Round one: 6.76 @ 204 MPH
Round two: 6.83 @ 204 MPH
Round tree: 14.02 @ 50 MPH
Eliminations
Round one: PROB
Pero no certifica sus 6.76 para certificarlos necesita hacer menos de 6.827. Luego de 2 jugosos pases de 6 segundos establece 14.02 @ 50 MPH se pierde por 8 segundos. TREMENDO! En la primera ronda de eliminatorias rompio y pierde ante Brad Personett que establece 6.52 @ 217 MPH.
3rd EVENT: Englishtown, N.J.
Round one: 9.54 @ 122 MPH
Round two: PROB
Round tree: PROB
No cualifico en el evento y no pudo llegar ni a la primera ronda.
4th EVENT: Atco, N.J.
Round one: 25.19 @ 28 MPH
Round two: 6.95 @ 204 MPH
Round tree: 6.79 @ 204 MPH
Eliminations
Round one: 7.07 @ 198 MPH pero Ara Arslanian viene como las olas del mar DE ATRAS PA ALANTE y le gana a Ibarra con 6.89 @ 202 MPH.
5th EVENT: Topeka, Kansas.
Round one: 9.51 @ 111 MPH.
Round two: none
Round tree: none
Eliminations
Round one: 8.63 @ 170 MPH y pierde ante Stephan Papadakis con 8.40 @ 167 MPH.
6th EVENT: Morrison, Colorado.
Round one: 8.92 @ 164 MPH
Round two: 7.23 @ 191 MPH
Round tree: 7.53 @ 180 MPH
Eliminations
Round one: 7.14 @ 195 MPH En la primera ronda de eliminatorias Ibarra se va ooootra vez... y pierde frente a Brad Personett con 6.73 @ 208 MPH.
Suerte en los próximos 5 eventos que quedan, que la van a necesitar... Solo veo 4 pases de 6 segundos en 6 eventos.
También estuve analizando sobre Abel Ibarra en la serie NHRA Sport Compact 2004:
1st EVENT 2004: Fontana, California.
Round one: No show
Round two: No show
Round tree: 18.75 @ 150 MPH
En la primera ronda de Qualifying Ibarra no aparece ni en los centros espiritista al igual que en la segunda ronda de Qualifying. En la tercera ronda de Qualifying Ibarra cualifica #7 con 18.75 @ 150 MPH.
Eliminations
Round one: 8.49 @ 136 MPH
En la primera ronda de eliminatorias Ibarra se va por que su motor se hizo cantos y perdio frente a Ara Arslanian con 8.49 @ 136 MPH.
2nd EVENT 2004: West Palm Beach, Florida.
Round one: No show
Round two: 19.10 @ 49 MPH
Round two: 22.73 @ 33 MPH ( did not qualify )
3rd EVENT 2004. Englishtown, N.J.
Round one: 8.63 @ 110 MPH
Round two: same
Round tree: same
Eliminations
Round one: 6.84 @ 190 MPH le gana a Tirso Sanjuan con 9.71 @ 96 MPH y pasa a la segunda ronda por primera vez!
Round two: No show
En la segunda ronda de eliminatorias Ibarra no se presenta y pierde ante Brad Personett con 7.06 @ 198 MPH.
4th EVENT: Atco, N.J.
Round one: 30.98 @ 22 MPH
Round two: 9.59 @ 139 MPH
Round tree: same ( did not qualify )
En la tercera ronda de Qualifying Ibarra se queda en la misma posición de 9.59 @ 139 MPH. No cualifica en el evento.
5th EVENT 2004: Atco, N.J.
Round one: 10. 63 @ 88 MPH
Round two: 8.93 @ 139 MPH
Round tree: 17.72 @ 47 MPH
Eliminations
Round one: 9.72 @ 133 MPH
En la primera ronda de eliminatorias Ibarra establece 9.72 @ 133 MPH y pierde ante Matt Scranton con 7.06 @ 198 MPH.
6th EVENT 2004: Las Vegas, Nevada.
Round one: PROB
Round two: No show
Round tree: 31.99 @ 50 MPH
Eliminations
Round one: 7.20 @ 192 MPH
En la primera ronda de eliminatorias Ibarra establece 7.20 @ 192 MPH y pierde frente a Stephan Papadakis con 6.75 @ 198 MPH.
7th EVENT 2004. Ennis, Texas.
Round one: 9.85 @ 90 MPH
Round two: 10.14 @ 91 MPH
Round tree: No show
Eliminations
Round one: 7.64 @ 177
En la primera ronda de eliminatorias Ibarra establece 7.64 @ 177 MPH y gana frente a Matt Scranton que rompio su motor.
Round two: 13.45 @ 117 MPH/ slow run
En la segunda ronda de eliminatorias Abel Ibarra se va solito con un 13.45 @ 117 MPH.
Round tree: RED
En la final Abel Ibarra se jampio la luz y establece 8.19 @ 166 MPH y pierde ante Matt Hartford con 13.81 @ 62 MPH.
8th EVENT 2004. Madison, Illinois.
Round one: 10.51 @ 89 MPH
Round two: 8.68 @ 156 MPH
Round tree: 7.00 @ 197 MPH
Eliminations
Round one: 7.02 @ 195 MPH
En la primera ronda de eliminatorias como siempre...Abel Ibarra establece 7.02 @ 195 MPH y pierde ante Stephan Papadakis con 6.82 @ 205 MPH.
9th EVENT 2004. Englishtown, N.J.
Round one: 13.38 @ 63 MPH
Round two: 6.79 @ 204 MPH
Round tree: 24.19 @ 29 MPH ... QUE TALENTO!
Eliminations
Round one: 6.93 @ 204 MPH y gana frente a Matt Scranton que establece 6.94 @ 203 MPH.
Round two: 7.63 @ 136 MPH y pierde ante Stephan Papadakis con 7.40 @ 186 MPH. TREMENDO!
10th EVENT 2004: Pomona, California.
Round one: PROB
Round two: 22.44 @ 36 MPH
Round tree: 19.13 @ 44 MPH
Eliminations
Round one: 17.18 @ 47 MPH
En la primera ronda de eliminatorias Ibarra como siempre establece 17.18 @ 47 MPH y pierde ante Stephan Papadakis que establece 6.66 @ 210 MPH.
and THESE ARE THE RESULTS OF "the godfather of rotaries"?
La Atrevida can do way better than that
http://www.nhrasportcompact.com/2005...scorecard.html
*Just go to each event and click on the results and it will break it down for you by class.
-Bern
08-11-05, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BADRICAN
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TALKING **** IS HOW THE GAME GOT STARTED!
DOES WHO CAN RUN ON THE TRACK, FOR THE REST????
WELL THEIR IS ALWAYS "THE BENCH"
TALKING **** IS HOW THE GAME GOT STARTED!
DOES WHO CAN RUN ON THE TRACK, FOR THE REST????
WELL THEIR IS ALWAYS "THE BENCH"
-Bern
08-11-05, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ssglopezvm
...La Atrevida can do way better than that..[/color]
I love this car!!!-Bern
08-11-05, 03:47 PM
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Yea and you guys talk all this BS
that the cars in PR are go karts
and can't run NHRA
well guess what!
LA ATRIVIDA ran 7.6 in Puerto Rico
came to the US in NJ a couple of months ago
and WON! the event in modified
with numorus 7.6 1/4 mile passes on a NHRA event
at NHRA legal weight!
so keep talking and quessing if ML is legal or not
No one knows whats under ML or Siquels car
you want to know why ? there is a Turbo mag interview
with siguel..go search for it
SO don't post pics of CLR's car
with his 3 turbos
so others get confused and think it ML or siguels setup
you'll soon find out and in a bad way for your hero
that the cars in PR are go karts
and can't run NHRA
well guess what!
LA ATRIVIDA ran 7.6 in Puerto Rico
came to the US in NJ a couple of months ago
and WON! the event in modified
with numorus 7.6 1/4 mile passes on a NHRA event
at NHRA legal weight!
so keep talking and quessing if ML is legal or not
No one knows whats under ML or Siquels car
you want to know why ? there is a Turbo mag interview
with siguel..go search for it
SO don't post pics of CLR's car
with his 3 turbos
so others get confused and think it ML or siguels setup
you'll soon find out and in a bad way for your hero
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08-11-05, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Bern
Exactly what I said... this kind of stuff is great for (the bench) forums and sh*%t talkers like us... it gives us something to talk, bitch, and moan about... drag racing wouldn't be fun if it weren't for discussions like this...
-Bern
-Bern
I will always have something fun to read, thanks to you guys.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
KEEP UP THE GOOD ARGUMENTS.
08-11-05, 04:22 PM
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08-11-05, 04:46 PM
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I'll keep the trash talk going....
Super Sea Level Track(Etown) + Underwieght + 3 turbos = cheap way to get fast times
The Legendary Track at 1000ft Above Sea Level (Pomona) + smog + heat = hardcore racers ( REAL POWER! )
P.S. When Siguel's RX7 came to Pomona, he didnt run his hardcore times and he GOT DQed for being underweight!
Super Sea Level Track(Etown) + Underwieght + 3 turbos = cheap way to get fast times
The Legendary Track at 1000ft Above Sea Level (Pomona) + smog + heat = hardcore racers ( REAL POWER! )
P.S. When Siguel's RX7 came to Pomona, he didnt run his hardcore times and he GOT DQed for being underweight!
08-11-05, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 61620B
I'll keep the trash talk going....
Super Sea Level Track(Etown) + Underwieght + 3 turbos = cheap way to get fast times
The Legendary Track at 1000ft Above Sea Level (Pomona) + smog + heat = hardcore racers ( REAL POWER! )
P.S. When Siguel's RX7 came to Pomona, he didnt run his hardcore times and he GOT DQed for being underweight!
Super Sea Level Track(Etown) + Underwieght + 3 turbos = cheap way to get fast times
The Legendary Track at 1000ft Above Sea Level (Pomona) + smog + heat = hardcore racers ( REAL POWER! )
P.S. When Siguel's RX7 came to Pomona, he didnt run his hardcore times and he GOT DQed for being underweight!
1st Englishtown event 2005
Saturday
Results for Qualifying Round 1
ENGLISHTOWN, N.J.
Runs 9.545/122.30, Now #5
That was it, sorry go home
If it was that easy, I believe his times would've been netter than that, don't you think
BTW - If you want Sea Level track + smog + heat = hardcore racers ( REAL POWER! ), maybe he should come over to PR
08-11-05, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 61620B
I'll keep the trash talk going....
Super Sea Level Track(Etown) + Underwieght + 3 turbos = cheap way to get fast times
The Legendary Track at 1000ft Above Sea Level (Pomona) + smog + heat = hardcore racers ( REAL POWER! )
P.S. When Siguel's RX7 came to Pomona, he didnt run his hardcore times and he GOT DQed for being underweight!
Super Sea Level Track(Etown) + Underwieght + 3 turbos = cheap way to get fast times
The Legendary Track at 1000ft Above Sea Level (Pomona) + smog + heat = hardcore racers ( REAL POWER! )
P.S. When Siguel's RX7 came to Pomona, he didnt run his hardcore times and he GOT DQed for being underweight!
did did not blieve that 8sec 1/4 was possible for rotaries?
SMACK DOWN.........
RICAN POWER NOTHING BUT 8'S.............
08-11-05, 08:28 PM
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see alot of these dudes on here dont even know whut the **** they even talking bout. All this **** talking is all apart of racing ,us ricans call it "AGITE" Is how we get everybody else all madd and hyped up. Everybody just calm down and we will see whut happends in E-town. Ok now, me I hate Flaco ***. He aint no rotary king and never will be the way he is going now. Ohh and all the **** talking bout pr cars being underweight is all bullshit. The ones that are underweight are the Nos aspirated ones. Saying that pr cars are underweight is just another excuse ppl go towards us.Too all of ya just remember if it wasnt for us ricans import drag racing would of never excisted, and would not be the way it is now.
08-11-05, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by prrex4ever
How about 1972 when it opened. I started to go to the old Caguas dragstrip in 1970's. Dammmmmmmmm i'm old. Pero sabroso.
CUQUI WAS FAST IN A GREEN VOLKSWAGEN........ MAN GUESS I BEST GRAB A BEER
AND GO WAY BACK
THE OLD RX-4'S RUNING AND THE VOLKSWAGENS......
MY UNCLE USE TO RACE IN "LAS MAREAS" HE WAS FAST.....
BUT THERE WAS ALWAYS SOME ONE FASTER.......... THEY TALK **** ALL NIGHT BET RACE AND THEN DRINK BEER AND I GOT TO DRIVE HOME TO "ARROYO" UNDER AGE
BUT ON THE WHEEL DAMMM DOES WERE THE GOOD DAYS.
08-12-05, 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by kabooski
NHRA this NHRA that
plz before NHRA there was NIRA which NHRA bought
rotaries like Falito has been racing long before NHRA ever did import racing
funny cause Abel had claimed the fastest 2 rotor (before sporty 7.3 pass)
when he did a 7.44 pass in vegas in private testing not at a NHRA event
NHRA is almost all 6cyl now in the RWD class's very very very few 4 cyl and rotaries in competition left
But out of the NHRA circuit there are hundreds of fast 4 cyl and rotaries race cars out there
NHRA which are bias against Rotaries don't mean **** in the grand scheme of things
plz before NHRA there was NIRA which NHRA bought
rotaries like Falito has been racing long before NHRA ever did import racing
funny cause Abel had claimed the fastest 2 rotor (before sporty 7.3 pass)
when he did a 7.44 pass in vegas in private testing not at a NHRA event
NHRA is almost all 6cyl now in the RWD class's very very very few 4 cyl and rotaries in competition left
But out of the NHRA circuit there are hundreds of fast 4 cyl and rotaries race cars out there
NHRA which are bias against Rotaries don't mean **** in the grand scheme of things
You see how funny that is... Abel ran that 7.44 pass in 2nd round qualifying at the NHRA Houston round in 2002... all out in the open for all to see....
Check it here for yourself:
K & N Racing Mazda RX7 13B 7.443@176.77
http://www.nhrasportcompact.com/2002...sults/pro.html
The interesting thing here is, that Abel actually ran a 7.38@185+ (13B) pass in private NHRA testing.... but never claimed this because it was in private testing!!
I agree the NHRA, and many other associations, drag, road-race, circle-track, etc... are bias against Rotaries! It really sucks!! Why are they afraid of the little motor that can!
-Bern
08-12-05, 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by fbdrifterrx7
see alot of these dudes on here dont even know whut the **** they even talking bout. All this **** talking is all apart of racing ,us ricans call it "AGITE" Is how we get everybody else all madd and hyped up. Everybody just calm down and we will see whut happends in E-town. Ok now, me I hate Flaco ***. He aint no rotary king and never will be the way he is going now. Ohh and all the **** talking bout pr cars being underweight is all bullshit. The ones that are underweight are the Nos aspirated ones. Saying that pr cars are underweight is just another excuse ppl go towards us.Too all of ya just remember if it wasnt for us ricans import drag racing would of never excisted, and would not be the way it is now.
See, at least I respect you for being honest and just coming out and saying that you HATE Flaco... don't know why, but at least your honest. And I'm sure that many feel this way, but peeps hate it even more to have admit that Flaco has skills (as do others here in the US, PR, Oz, NZ), and has been at the *very* front of Rotary drag racing with only 1 or 2 others for the last 10 years... with all others chasing!... this can not be denied!
Well, if Flaco isn't the Rotary King (and I'm not saying, or said, he is) then this whole string woud be pointless, as it's titled: The rising of a NEW 20B KING... if there is a rising of a NEW king, then who is the OLD King??
Hey... what about all the hispanics and asians on the West Coast, where there was a huge unground import drag scene? You see, not anyone group can take all the credit for the scene!
Btw, spoke to Flaco tonight and he told me that they discovered the major problem he's been having with his engines, and that he's now corrected it... the simualtations are showing that the car is ready to bust out some low 6:50s in the 215+ range. Private testing on the fix, and new turbo combo, is coming in the next few weeks!
-Bern
08-12-05, 07:27 AM
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flaco
i couldnt help to laugh and laugh hard when you said that flaco finally figured out what was wrong with the motor. you have no idea how many times he has said that. running 6.5's @ 215mph is easy with the mouth. the truth of the matter is that flaco is well funded. he's been well funded for years. nobody runs a series and drives cross country every year if there broke.
hes not living paycheck to paycheck.
i dont hate on flaco, i just dont think hes that good of a mechanic.
i dont care what anybody says but he cant be possibly breaking motors on purpose. ive been following him for years and for years he's been breaking motors left and right.
you have no idea how many times siguel has run low 7's high 6's and left home with motor intact.
hey bern, since you talk to flaco, let him know that siguel will be offering classes for the amature mechanic. if he wants to sign up he can call the siguel help line @ 1-800-help-me
hes not living paycheck to paycheck.
i dont hate on flaco, i just dont think hes that good of a mechanic.
i dont care what anybody says but he cant be possibly breaking motors on purpose. ive been following him for years and for years he's been breaking motors left and right.
you have no idea how many times siguel has run low 7's high 6's and left home with motor intact.
hey bern, since you talk to flaco, let him know that siguel will be offering classes for the amature mechanic. if he wants to sign up he can call the siguel help line @ 1-800-help-me
08-12-05, 09:51 AM
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Hey real professional racing cost big dollars it makes me laugh how many people hate on Abel because he went out and got the sponsorships. You talk about blowing a motor up well hell it takes a lot of blown engines to get to the top. Abel runs almost all the events that I've been keeping track of now imagine if Siquel was running every event guaranteed he will be going through the motors. Maybe not as many as Abel does but he will be going though his motors more often. When you are running these engines has hard as these guys with as much boost as they push through them things will break. It's great someone else is finally coming out to represent the rotary and I hope the competion makes the times fall even lower.