The rising of a new 20B KING.
08-09-05 | 07:08 AM
#26
Originally Posted by RX-Heven
fwiw, I think Bern is doing a good job of being unbiased. Seems like KNONFS has something to prove for some reason....
It is funny, how budget was NEVER an issue, when Flaco was doing his thing, there is a new kid in the block, and the budget comes up, funny isnt it?
08-09-05 | 07:15 AM
#27
Originally Posted by Bern
Hey... I wasn't making that number up.. it came from "RoTaRyBoYz" in this same string above, he says from rumors circulating at E-Town. see below...
Originally Posted by Bern
And the reason that I was stating that I don't doubt the dollar figure, is because I know how much it cost to build a quality car like the ML RX-8, and $200K is in the ball bark... Don Ness chassis/body = $150+ a killer race motor from Alec = $60+... I'm not saying that this is what ML paid, but it's some general #'s for information. Feel free to call and ask. Again, not hate'n on ML, just letting everyone know that this type of speed cost.
To build only:
Flaco's R-100 = $28K
Flaco's FD = $40k
Flaco's Rx8's = $ 140k
To run the last few full seasons:
per season budget = $250k <spent $300k per season> engines, equipment, travel, team, crew, truck, insurance, etc... no real money left for much serious testing or R&D
To build only:
Flaco's R-100 = $28K
Flaco's FD = $40k
Flaco's Rx8's = $ 140k
To run the last few full seasons:
per season budget = $250k <spent $300k per season> engines, equipment, travel, team, crew, truck, insurance, etc... no real money left for much serious testing or R&D
Originally Posted by Bern
Listen... I'd love to report more on the PR scene and the going-ons, but we don't get much feed back from PR. Anyone can even send me stuff in espanol if wanted. We've never hated on any rotary news or accomplishments. Rabule does a great job reporting the PR scene, and we like to also, but we don't have a good contact there.
-Bern
-Bern
08-09-05 | 03:06 PM
#28
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Originally Posted by KNONFS
Wouldn't that be a rumor...
Originally Posted by KNONFS
We all know that racing cost big money, no doubt about that. I just don't understand the, but this person built this, and this other did that, mentality. As I said before, budget was never an issue when it came down to Flaco, why is now with ML?
Again, it shouldn't be a problem that I mention that ML is a very well funded vehicle effort... who cares, it doesn't take anything away from ML. Again I wasn't hate'n on ML... just saying it's a well funded and budgeted vehicle effort... and we should all appreciate the fact there are still guys out there willing to spend the $$ to keep Rotary Power in the spot light.
I'll tell you Abel was offered big $$ to go drive for a top piston team last year, but he refused, because he's a Mazda Rotary guy... I personally thought it was a stupid move on his part, but then this is what being a hard-core Rotary guy is all about!
Originally Posted by KNONFS
I kind of know the www.puertoricodragracing.com owner, he might be interested in sharing info, I can check with him
Peace out and much Rotary love!
-Bern
Last edited by Bern; 08-09-05 at 03:09 PM.
08-09-05 | 06:25 PM
#29
Originally Posted by Bern
Yea, but not mine... as other educated folks in this forum have pointed out, the dollar figures seems right for a quality ride like this ML 8... again there are, and I have, NO issues with this... I think it's cool... you know whatever it takes.
Again OH YES IT WAS and continues to be... before it's all anyone ever talked about... "if I had a million bucks like Abel" if we had mega sponsors like Flaco", "if I/he had his money", "if this.. and that..." Just search the older post in this forum, and the other forums out there, even the PR forums, and you'll see that this is true. Everyone would say that if so-&-so had the same bucks they would be running fast, faster, fastest, etc... so how can you say that this $$$ deal was never an issue before... I speculate that most people who have followed the scene for a few years, will know that this true.
Again, it shouldn't be a problem that I mention that ML is a very well funded vehicle effort... who cares, it doesn't take anything away from ML. Again I wasn't hate'n on ML... just saying it's a well funded and budgeted vehicle effort... and we should all appreciate the fact there are still guys out there willing to spend the $$ to keep Rotary Power in the spot light.
I'll tell you Abel was offered big $$ to go drive for a top piston team last year, but he refused, because he's a Mazda Rotary guy... I personally thought it was a stupid move on his part, but then this is what being a hard-core Rotary guy is all about!
Yea, that would be cool...look forward to hearing from him. Please have him e-mail me or call me... all the info is included in the PM to you... and thanks for your help and assistance KNONFS, it's been nice discussing this issue with you. Like I said in the other string, I think we've both made our valid points (at least I have) and I'll leave it to the educated readers of this forum to make up there minds on the rest of the issues. We can discuss our points-of-views and opinions 'til forever, and not get a consensus. I just hope folks support Rotary Power every where and anytime... at any racing venue and any class and type of racing!
Peace out and much Rotary love!
-Bern
Again OH YES IT WAS and continues to be... before it's all anyone ever talked about... "if I had a million bucks like Abel" if we had mega sponsors like Flaco", "if I/he had his money", "if this.. and that..." Just search the older post in this forum, and the other forums out there, even the PR forums, and you'll see that this is true. Everyone would say that if so-&-so had the same bucks they would be running fast, faster, fastest, etc... so how can you say that this $$$ deal was never an issue before... I speculate that most people who have followed the scene for a few years, will know that this true.
Again, it shouldn't be a problem that I mention that ML is a very well funded vehicle effort... who cares, it doesn't take anything away from ML. Again I wasn't hate'n on ML... just saying it's a well funded and budgeted vehicle effort... and we should all appreciate the fact there are still guys out there willing to spend the $$ to keep Rotary Power in the spot light.
I'll tell you Abel was offered big $$ to go drive for a top piston team last year, but he refused, because he's a Mazda Rotary guy... I personally thought it was a stupid move on his part, but then this is what being a hard-core Rotary guy is all about!
Yea, that would be cool...look forward to hearing from him. Please have him e-mail me or call me... all the info is included in the PM to you... and thanks for your help and assistance KNONFS, it's been nice discussing this issue with you. Like I said in the other string, I think we've both made our valid points (at least I have) and I'll leave it to the educated readers of this forum to make up there minds on the rest of the issues. We can discuss our points-of-views and opinions 'til forever, and not get a consensus. I just hope folks support Rotary Power every where and anytime... at any racing venue and any class and type of racing!
Peace out and much Rotary love!
-Bern
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10-30-05 | 01:20 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by King Rotary
Flaco 6.76 @210mph @2300lbs-world record, minor league 6.81 @ 201@ 2000lbs, mexico lo asi mejor MEXICO#1. This message is for all of the haters that hate on Flaco in this forum.
-Ted
10-30-05 | 01:31 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by King Rotary
Flaco 6.76 @210mph @2300lbs-world record, minor league 6.81 @ 201@ 2000lbs, mexico lo asi mejor MEXICO#1. This message is for all of the haters that hate on Flaco in this forum.
Get out of here with your 2 post and where better than you crap.
-Destin
10-31-05 | 11:37 PM
#34
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Originally Posted by fbdrifterrx7
wtf when flaco ran 210 lying poser bitch
Yes he did about a month ago. He did it with his new turbo setup. It was actualy 6.79@209mph during qualifing at the Las vegas NHRA event
Last edited by crispeed; 10-31-05 at 11:40 PM.
11-01-05 | 01:10 AM
#36
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Originally Posted by crispeed
Yes he did about a month ago. He did it with his new turbo setup. It was actualy 6.79@209mph during qualifing at the Las vegas NHRA event
6.794/209.95 (rounded to 210 by the above gentleman)
The 6.76 was run at a prior run to this...
-Bern
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