92-94 JC Cosmo Front Clip?

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Old 02-01-03 | 04:20 PM
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92-94 JC Cosmo Front Clip?

Ok, I'm looking for someone, ANYONE, (Bueller? Bueller?) that has the FULL front clip (dash, console, fenders, hood, front fascia, etc) from a 92-94 JC Cosmo, prefferably the top of the line model, with the in-dash lcd touchscreen (Type-E.CCS)... to transfer all the pieces to Project: Nine20BNine (the complete Cosmo swap into a 92-94 Mazda 929).



Let me know if any of y'all still have this stuff, or are about to acquire it. Thanks in advance!
Old 02-02-03 | 05:19 AM
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Bueller? Bueller?
Old 02-02-03 | 12:04 PM
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There is a complete front clip on e-bay right now. But it's a 13b one, not a 20b. They say it runs if you just hook up a fuel pump. In the pic's they show the dash all lit up with the gauges working.
Old 02-02-03 | 03:17 PM
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do you need the engine? or just the dash/fenders etc?

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Ideally, the WHOLE thing... 20B and all.... but I will settle for a clip sans engine.


I'm trying to convert a 929 into a 4 door JC Cosmo, except LHD, of course .
Old 02-06-03 | 02:25 PM
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a friend of mine can get a half cut, pristine condition, but with blown motor from a 94 Type-E.CCS for 2500 shipped.



Do I go for it, and just rebuild the engine? Or move on, and try to find one that's not so much of a "mechanic's dream."


He said the seats, dash, steering wheel, center console, fenders, hood, front fascia, engine bay are all in impeccable condition, and show little to no signs of wear.... other than the compression on the engine is 10-21-14. I'm HOPING it's just a simple housing replacement, and seals... not like a "you need a whole new engine" type deal.
Old 02-07-03 | 06:26 PM
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Whats wrong with the 90, 91 & 95 versions for a front clip.

Why do you just want a 92-94......???
Old 02-08-03 | 12:52 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by CHEF_EG_1
[B]a friend of mine can get a half cut, pristine condition, but with blown motor from a 94 Type-E.CCS for 2500 shipped.
Do I go for it, and just rebuild the engine, or move on?[QUOTE]




I'll take that front clip off your friends hands if you decide you don't want it. Seriously! PM me if interested.

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Old 02-08-03 | 06:36 PM
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Whats wrong with the 90, 91 & 95 versions for a front clip.

Why do you just want a 92-94......???

Because they were built on the same platform as the 92-94 Mazda 929's. The engine bay and most of the chassis is the same, according to MazdaSpeed.
Old 02-09-03 | 07:25 AM
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Wait, the Cosmo and the 929 are the same? No way right? There was a guy in Hawaii who had a full clip for sale (2-rotor though) and was advertising it for a 929. I thought he was just some weird guy.
Old 02-10-03 | 08:23 AM
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Wait, the Cosmo and the 929 are the same? No way right? There was a guy in Hawaii who had a full clip for sale (2-rotor though) and was advertising it for a 929. I thought he was just some weird guy.
The JC Cosmo ran from 90-95. There are ZERO differences in the engine & layout for the 6 years of production. A 92-94 version is no different to any other year no matter what crap some loser tries to feed you. Although check the thread about the engine batchs from the early cars.

The HD Sentia/929 ran from 91-95. The suspension is similar in design. But quite different. The brakes are different. The gearbox is the same as the 13B Cosmo. The diff is different. The HD & JC engine bays are similar in size so a 20B should drop into it. You will require custom engine mounts, or try & adapt the JC sub frame as installation will be so much more professional that way.

The in car monitor is CRT, not LCD. Like your PC monitor, its a dumb device & will require the computer to drive it. See the attached pic for location of required devices to make it all work. Make sure you get the wiring harness too.
Old 02-10-03 | 08:33 AM
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Fogot to attach the pic.

Old 02-13-03 | 07:22 AM
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DAMN!!! Here I was thinking this was gonna be an easy project, and you gotta tell me all that stuff that I need that comes from the REAR clip of one????



How the hell am I gonna find one of those?






And BTW, I just founda Pearl White '95 929 for $3K here in town, not more than 3 blocks from my house. I'm talking to them tomm.
Old 02-14-03 | 12:26 PM
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DMRH... You seem to be very knowledgable on this subject. I just possibly purchased a 92 929 with the intention of stuffing a rotary in it one day. I dont really care about the "crt" readout or any of that, but I do feel it needs rotary power.

If the Cosmo and the 929 have the same front area, I could just swap subframes with a cosmo by getting a front cut from japan. But if they are different, I don't see the point as I will have to do fabrication either way. Share a bit more of that wonderful knowledge with me!

Thanks!
Old 02-14-03 | 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by DMRH
Fogot to attach the pic.

Holy ****! That's the inside of a Cosmo?! That's ******* pimp!
Old 02-15-03 | 02:03 AM
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The most professinal way to install a rotary engine into the HD series 929 is to drop the HD subframe & mount the JC subframe. Naturally the mounting points will be out & some fabrication required (thanks Mazda).

Better to fabricate the subframe to fit than to fabricate the engine to fit. Thats the theory at least.

Several HD 929 conversions have been done in Japan & New Zealand that I know of. Japanese conversions used the FD (92-02) engine & the two I know of in NZ used the FC (86-91) engine. All where manual gearbox conversions.

A good way to find the clutch pedal for the HD manual conversions is to look for a (rare) manual HC 929 (86-90) that you can extract the pedal assembly from.

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Old 02-15-03 | 05:34 PM
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Well, I would want to keep it an automatic. The goal is to get some more performance, of course, but still have it be a comfortable freeway cruiser. There is always the Seven for those all out days Do you know if the rotary bolts up to the HD Transmission?

I kind of like the idea of having a turbo rotary in the 929, but I would be looking more for reliability and torque. Its not a small car, by any means, and the stock 200hp is pretty anemic. I am thinking an NA 3 rotor would provide the needed OOMPH for the car without adding complexity and taking away from reliability.

Again, just a stock 255hp 13brew would give it a good amount of power and torque and be loads cheaper to build and find.

Still just mulling ideas, the 3.0 DOHC in the car runs great. But I have such a consumate love for for the rotary I don't feel right driving a car with pistons in it. Atleast I stuck with a mazda, I love the cars, the fit the finish, the design, the sporty character. But they left one important thing out of this 929.... The rotary!
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