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#26
Rz and Patman I apologize if I offended you guys I just think that 1000whp in a car this light would be difficult to use in a "street car form". However if you have found a way to hook I'm excited and would love to know how. I'm always excited to learn new things. As far as running 7's in a street car you will be fully caged a parachute and probably wheelie bars and possbily a tube chassis. It could be Street legal, maybe but not much of a car I would want to cruise around town in for too long or drive on the highway or an off ramp that does any 180 curves. As far as 100-200 mph times I understand the need for big power. but it does come back to traction again. A good friend of mine is running a twin turbo viper from underground racing with automatic transmission and its tubbed with 16 inch wide race slicks and more weight to push the rubber into the pavement. He runs this car on the highway and texas mile and he still has traction issues even with boost by gear from the motec setup. I just believe that a slower spooling turbo and a large possibility of losing traction will hurt your times more than a smaller power number that comes online sooner and hooks . But If someone can hook that large of power then hats off to them I truley have respect for someone that can do that .Again not trying to step on anyones toes just going from experience but hey I could be wrong. I'm not perfect. and Rz I agree "long live the rotary power!"
Before I yanked the engine this past fall, the car was tipping 800hp, at the wheel..
I did none of those things you mentioned playing around on the street. Did this without the typical safety gear you find in cars of this power..
The reason the car didn't murder-death-kill me was because I wasnt acting stupid all the time with the car. It was tuned on Q16 and so thats what I drove around with, 30psi +/- of boost..
The point of this tangent is probably overly obvious.. high hp cars can be taken out on the street and driven / enjoyed. Most of us are old enough to have seen stupid, stupid kids wreck and kill people with less power, uglier cars, etc.. So a 1000whp car doesn't entail silly accidents and result in its own death. It just means you need to take some extra care - in my case, I rarely WOT'ed the car - the front end would lift up so quickly and high enough that steering was pointless.. besides, it takes a long time to slow down from 140mph on the city street :-)
Just be safe and you'll live.
#27
Amen to that !!
i am not sure the numbers do seem high (1400hp and 10500RPM)
not saying its not possible , ....probably is , but the trick is for how long ,
personally , i think a 4 rotor setup will fight you less along the way then the 3 rotor for that kind of HP .....RPM`s......not so much
again , i do believe that there are a few individuals who should research these things , (like you are about to )
its the only way for progress , it will be hard though and you can probably expect this monster to fight you every step of the way , but if you think you can do it ,....go for it
I for one , am curious ......
i am not sure the numbers do seem high (1400hp and 10500RPM)
not saying its not possible , ....probably is , but the trick is for how long ,
personally , i think a 4 rotor setup will fight you less along the way then the 3 rotor for that kind of HP .....RPM`s......not so much
again , i do believe that there are a few individuals who should research these things , (like you are about to )
its the only way for progress , it will be hard though and you can probably expect this monster to fight you every step of the way , but if you think you can do it ,....go for it
I for one , am curious ......
Before I yanked the engine this past fall, the car was tipping 800hp, at the wheel..
I did none of those things you mentioned playing around on the street. Did this without the typical safety gear you find in cars of this power..
The reason the car didn't murder-death-kill me was because I wasnt acting stupid all the time with the car. It was tuned on Q16 and so thats what I drove around with, 30psi +/- of boost..
The point of this tangent is probably overly obvious.. high hp cars can be taken out on the street and driven / enjoyed. Most of us are old enough to have seen stupid, stupid kids wreck and kill people with less power, uglier cars, etc.. So a 1000whp car doesn't entail silly accidents and result in its own death. It just means you need to take some extra care - in my case, I rarely WOT'ed the car - the front end would lift up so quickly and high enough that steering was pointless.. besides, it takes a long time to slow down from 140mph on the city street :-)
Just be safe and you'll live.
I did none of those things you mentioned playing around on the street. Did this without the typical safety gear you find in cars of this power..
The reason the car didn't murder-death-kill me was because I wasnt acting stupid all the time with the car. It was tuned on Q16 and so thats what I drove around with, 30psi +/- of boost..
The point of this tangent is probably overly obvious.. high hp cars can be taken out on the street and driven / enjoyed. Most of us are old enough to have seen stupid, stupid kids wreck and kill people with less power, uglier cars, etc.. So a 1000whp car doesn't entail silly accidents and result in its own death. It just means you need to take some extra care - in my case, I rarely WOT'ed the car - the front end would lift up so quickly and high enough that steering was pointless.. besides, it takes a long time to slow down from 140mph on the city street :-)
Just be safe and you'll live.
#28
Another thing to consider is what power you really plan on using and how quickly can you get it online and can you stick it. people have ran deep into the nines with a little over 650 why people think they need 1000whp on a street car is beyond me. but to each his/her own.
#30
I found this video in PR where they pulled 1,427WHP on the first pass at the dyno.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uITQY...layer_embedded
After talking to my friend the last pass did 1,486WHP@45PSI the engine lasted the whole season last year. This year they have a black Mazda 6 not dyno'ed yet but they are shooting over 1,500WHP and it certainly looks like it does.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uITQY...layer_embedded
After talking to my friend the last pass did 1,486WHP@45PSI the engine lasted the whole season last year. This year they have a black Mazda 6 not dyno'ed yet but they are shooting over 1,500WHP and it certainly looks like it does.
#31
My local Rotary shop www.Forcefedracing.ca has built a street 1000+whp Fb, the video is posted in the 20b forum. All depends on the hp goals and what type of reliablilty and longevity everyone is looking for.....
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