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Old 05-11-05 | 05:04 PM
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20b n/a header??

Anyone knows who sells non-turbo headers for the 20b?
Old 05-11-05 | 05:19 PM
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Old 05-12-05 | 07:29 AM
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Make your own


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Old 05-12-05 | 04:11 PM
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You know if your not going to help or add to this post, then why bother, to get your rocks off.

Nobody.

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That really narrows it down. I guess everyone with a 20b should not even attempt to install one because nobody on this planet sells it, not even custom fabricaters.

Make your own


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Hmm, what a great idea. Let me go out and buy a welding machine, pipe bender, saw, and all the material to make one header.

Like I said if you want to help and add something informative then do so, if not troll somewhere else.

Ohh, by the way this is how you should respond nopistons.com
Old 05-12-05 | 06:50 PM
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For what kind of car? I will be making one for my P-Port FD. If you are interested. I might make two. But it wont be cheap. Let me know if you are interested. It will be purged welded.
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For what kind of car? I will be making one for my P-Port FD. If you are interested. I might make two. But it wont be cheap. Let me know if you are interested. It will be purged welded.
PMed ya
Old 05-12-05 | 11:47 PM
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custom dude its the only way!!!! would be good to just buy some!

this is mine im in australia!!! hope the pic works!!!
mazda capella 20b pp project
cheers dave


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Look dumbfuck, you're not paying us for our suggestions.
I'll be happy to answer your questions in detail if you PayPal me $100 for the "work".

Bottom line, there is no mass produced header for the 20B that is easily available.
The ones that are made are low-volume, hand-made units, which practically makes them one-off custom jobs.
If you go to a competent shop, be prepared to pay several hundred dollars just on labor.

The materials can be bought from Racing Beat.
Hell, they even sell a 20B flange...DUH.
Do your ******* research before asking stupid questions like this.


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Originally Posted by 2wankel
That really narrows it down. I guess everyone with a 20b should not even attempt to install one because nobody on this planet sells it, not even custom fabricaters.
Hmm, what a great idea. Let me go out and buy a welding machine, pipe bender, saw, and all the material to make one header.


yea, lets start naming EVERY single custom fabricator with a welder and access to metal tubing...good call
Old 05-13-05 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by a20b4me
custom dude its the only way!!!! would be good to just buy some!

this is mine im in australia!!! hope the pic works!!!
mazda capella 20b pp project
cheers dave


Wow, very nice work dave. Did you build it? What was the price if you dont mind me asking? Better yet let me PM you instead.
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There you go flexing your superior intellect again.

Look dumbfuck, you're not paying us for our suggestions.
I'll be happy to answer your questions in detail if you PayPal me $100 for the "work".
That is right I am not paying for anything and if I did not to begin with, then get out my thread if it bothers you so much, instead of spewing your non-sense.

Bottom line, there is no mass produced header for the 20B that is easily available.
The ones that are made are low-volume, hand-made units, which practically makes them one-off custom jobs.
If you go to a competent shop, be prepared to pay several hundred dollars just on labor.

The materials can be bought from Racing Beat.
Hell, they even sell a 20B flange...DUH.
Did I ask where I could find the materials? (no) Did you read that I do not have a welding machine? (apparently not) So what’s does that tell you? I need someone to build or sell me one.


Do your ******* research before asking stupid questions like this.

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This is classic, I suppose no one should ask questions at all and you are the leading expert on what is an intelligent question and what is not. Hate to see the world with you at the helm telling people to f-off because of question you think is stupid.

Let me tell you something not asking a question in a quest to find answers is a stupid thing to do. So everyone on the board ask away and do not let people like this deter you from your quest to get an answer.

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Old 05-13-05 | 10:26 AM
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yea, lets start naming EVERY single custom fabricator with a welder and access to metal tubing...good call
This is a great idea, a list (make it sticky) with people who custom fabricate parts for rotaries. Professionals and homebuilders who would want to make some extra cash.

Imagine this…our leading expert would not have to come into peoples thread and comment on their question, problem solved.

You my friend made the good call, congrats.
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Geez,

Lately, i been hearing all kind of BULL **** about people wanting to do 20B conversions.
2wankel, i don't know how old your are or what kind of financial situation you are in, but 20B conversion isn't cheap. Not only that, if you want to go N/A, you definitely need to rebuilt the engine, get some high compression rotors, etc, etc.. And thats if you could acturally find an 20B for sale and someone could build you one..

The thing is that, if you acturally did your research about N/A 20B, you would of automatically realized that you need a custom header. As 20B only came in Eunos Cosmos, it was turbo charged, very few 20B converted RX7s in USA, and even fewer N/A converted 20Bs in USA.

I myself is fed up with young, $7/hour job, teenagers who don't know **** about rotaries not alone 20Bs and brag about doing one.. its not that easy and very costly when its done right..
Old 05-13-05 | 11:53 AM
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Geez,



Lately, i been hearing all kind of BULL **** about people wanting to do 20B conversions.
2wankel, i don't know how old your are or what kind of financial situation you are in, but 20B conversion isn't cheap. Not only that, if you want to go N/A, you definitely need to rebuilt the engine, get some high compression rotors, etc, etc.. And thats if you could acturally find an 20B for sale and someone could build you one..


I thank you for your response, but that was not the topic question at hand, but if you need to know, the motor is already in an FC awaiting the intake and injection system. It was a simple question to see if there was an easier way to get a header for a 20b.






The thing is that, if you acturally did your research about N/A 20B, you would of automatically realized that you need a custom header. As 20B only came in Eunos Cosmos, it was turbo charged, very few 20B converted RX7s in USA, and even fewer N/A converted 20Bs in USA.


The research was done that is why I came to this forum to ask a question about a 20b header because it is harder to obtain, if it were turbo this question would not be asked, as it is easier to obtain a turbo manifold.




I myself is fed up with young, $7/hour job, teenagers who don't know **** about rotaries not alone 20Bs and brag about doing one.. its not that easy and very costly when its done right..


I am sorry that you feel that everyone who asks a question about a 20b is just living a pipe dream. You might want to stop reading these kinds of threads.



Mods, if you can lock this thread or throw it out please do so. I am done here I collected enough info.




I really appreciate 20B-3Rotor, a20b4me, Dragon, j9fd3s, banzaitoyota, Jeff20B, for providing great replies.





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Old 05-13-05 | 12:33 PM
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2wankel,

Thats awesome.. good to see that you are one of those people already has an engine and closer to getting it all done.

You could also contact GT1-20B for exhaust flange. if I recall, he also makes the flange in SS and the gasket to go along with it. But you might want to get that info from him.

Far as trying to avoid questions I mentioned earlier.. Its quite difficult to do so.. Its also very difficult to determine who's for real and who's not.. I appologize as I didn't not know of your exact situation.

Good luck with your project!
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hey guys

it is hard to say what it would cost as i had a friend do mine it cost me $900 aussie dollars most of that is just material. there is 8metres of pipe in the wholes system believe it or not and 2 mufflers!!! the primaries run all the way to the diff then collect with one muffler before the diff and one after!!!








cheers dave
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I tell you what...
We'll see ours for $200.
It's made to fit 20B into an FC with K2RD engine adapters.
Made from Racing Beat 0.125" pipe.
It's not pretty, but it works and it does not leak (at the welds).

We're going turbo anyways, so we don't need it anymore.


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Old 05-14-05 | 07:37 PM
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Look dumbfuck, you're not paying us for our suggestions.
I'll be happy to answer your questions in detail if you PayPal me $100 for the "work
Do your ******* research before asking stupid questions like this.


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Dude,
You DON'T own this forum.
No one has to pay You "Squat" for Your oppinion, and thats ALL it is, an oppinion!
Your design of headers, may not suit he's needs. Do You know what type of engine set up he has ?
This thread did not even get to the point of discausing his intended application before the INSULTS began to be handed out.
He did not direct his thread to You. You chose to take part in it. Therefore some common communication skills & basic edicate is in order.
You chose to engage in the discusion. If You thought it was a STUPID question, then IGNORE IT, whether it was or not, it is not for You to deside.
You are not "Mr. 20b Know it All " .........
This kind of bashing is all too common in this forum, that's what drives people away.
Ever stop to think what others in the forum may think of You, and you're knowledge base ?, This type of interaction does not add to ones reputation.
Not that I care either way, but give the guy a break.
I wonder if both of You were face to face, Would You have addressed him the same way ?
Nothing against anyone here in the forum, just that everyone deserves RESPECT.
Old 05-17-05 | 12:42 PM
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Let me tell you something not asking a question in a quest to find answers is a stupid thing to do. So everyone on the board ask away and do not let people like this DETER you from your quest to get an answer.
funny you should make that statement....what is "deter" spelled backwards?
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Originally Posted by treceb
funny you should make that statement....what is "deter" spelled backwards?
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Well, a 20B all mounted in and he's a dumbfuck?

I've got my 20B mounted. I'll be using stock twins for now, but if I ever fab up my own manifold for a T88, I'll be sure to make a few extras.

ReTed, lighten up.

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Old 05-18-05 | 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by GT1-20b
Dude,
You DON'T own this forum.
No one has to pay You "Squat" for Your oppinion, and thats ALL it is, an oppinion!
Your design of headers, may not suit he's needs. Do You know what type of engine set up he has ?
Okay, how about we reset everything and start with this...
HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU HAVE TO SPEND ON THIS PROJECT?
HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND ON THIS PROJECT?

When someone mentioned 20B NA, automatically I'm thinking they don't got the money to handle a turbo'd 20B application.
Which implies they are trying to get CHEAP.
Sorry, but I'm just to pessimistic about every Tom, Dick, and Harry doing 20B swaps...


This thread did not even get to the point of discausing his intended application before the INSULTS began to be handed out.
See above.


He did not direct his thread to You. You chose to take part in it. Therefore some common communication skills & basic edicate is in order.
You chose to engage in the discusion. If You thought it was a STUPID question, then IGNORE IT, whether it was or not, it is not for You to deside.
I can turn the argument around and tell you why you bothered to address this particular thread?
Why you gotta stick your nose into this?
Does the original poster have a problem ignoring me?
Wow, suddenly everything is my fault...


You are not "Mr. 20b Know it All " .........
I bet I know more about the 20B that you do.
I put money I know more about putting a 20B into an FC than you do.


This kind of bashing is all too common in this forum, that's what drives people away.
Your opinion...

Ever stop to think what others in the forum may think of You, and you're knowledge base ?, This type of interaction does not add to ones reputation.
Not that I care either way, but give the guy a break.
I wonder if both of You were face to face, Would You have addressed him the same way ?
I don't give a **** what you think or anyone else thinks of me.
You need to go dig up my replies on the subject - I've repeated myself enough.
I think most of the old timers know what my stance is on the subject.
The saying..."You can't make everyone happy all of the time."...says it all.
And yes, I'd say the same **** in person or on the computer.
Ask anyone who has met me in person...I am how I type...if you can believe it.


Nothing against anyone here in the forum, just that everyone deserves RESPECT.
Sorry, I'm going to tell you shove that where the sun don't shine.
I cater to the philosophy, "Respect is earned."


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Old 05-18-05 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ReZ311
Well, a 20B all mounted in and he's a dumbfuck?
Do you know how many guys have gotten a 20B mounted but not running?
I can't even remember all of them...

I've got my 20B mounted. I'll be using stock twins for now, but if I ever fab up my own manifold for a T88, I'll be sure to make a few extras.
So is your car running or is it a very expensive garage decoration?

People talk a lot of **** when it comes to 20B's.
I think the number of RUNNING 20B's can be counted with both hands at this point.
It can't be more than two dozen.
I bet the number is down to an even dozen to those members on here.
How many of them are FC's?
I don't think it even breaks 10.


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Old 05-18-05 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by treceb
funny you should make that statement....what is "deter" spelled backwards?
I'm happy you can read backwards.
Flesruoy kcuf og....


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Old 05-18-05 | 10:35 AM
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I bet I know more about the 20B that you do.

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Ooohhh.. I don't know about that.. GT1-20B does know quite a bit!!.. I 've chatted with him and he's right on tthe money about everything he told me.. And he has a lot of experience with 20B's.



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