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Old 01-13-05 | 05:27 PM
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Manntiss that picture of the removeable head is too funny. I can't make out what size tires you have, what are they?
Old 01-13-05 | 06:10 PM
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I'm guessing 15 or 16" wheels. Leaning more towards 15".

I actually really like how that rx-7 looks. Even the color is aesthetically pleasing to me.
Old 01-13-05 | 06:42 PM
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Poor Pamela.
Old 01-13-05 | 07:35 PM
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they're people that do hate it, but most are just tired of seeing it.
Old 01-13-05 | 08:01 PM
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I think it's bad ***, i wonder want kind of engine mods it has. Sure looks fast.
Old 01-13-05 | 09:20 PM
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Thats new to me.......Ive never heard of that car being hated!
Sure, it wont appeal to everyone's sense of style and taste,but it was built back when those big Supra wings were in vouge.
Whether or not you like the stock lines of the 1st gen,or the muscular bulk of a widebody,I think the important aspects of a custom car should be...
1.Is it original.......YES
2.Is it a quality job.....YES
3.Does it have the ***** to back up the looks.....YES

That car was my inspiration while building up my turbo,widebody monster.I didnt go as far with the one-off bodywork as he did,but Ive grown to like the widebody,big wing look.
And Cosmicbang,your absolutely right about traction issues.Theres no way in hell I could have lived with current HP levels while running 205 wide tires!!!!245's can barely keep it locked down.
Old 01-13-05 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Manntis
I disagree. Ask Moses how Pamela looked rolling down the street on my Enkeis with virtually stock (ever so slightly rolled) fender lips...



You should know better than to post the infamous 'package shot' D'arcy.

But yeah, your car did look very nice, and had no lack of traction.
Old 01-13-05 | 09:40 PM
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I don't like body kits on 1st gen RX-7's. And here is why, it adds weight. If it looks good, its fine, but it only attracts more "attention" and is that why your doing it? Finally, unless its upgraded to some significantly more power->Turbo rotor powered, V8'd, or something to go way beyond stock hp or bolt ons, the horsepower of the 12a or GSL-SE engines with only asperiated mod's are not going to need any additional downforce.

I'll take a functionality upgrade long before I consider adding "fat" to the car to try to move down the road.

BTW, when is there going to be a "sticky" regarding this purple car. Just leave it at the top and that'll take care of the well known purple car.
Old 01-13-05 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by WackyRotary
I don't like body kits on 1st gen RX-7's. And here is why, it adds weight. If it looks good, its fine, but it only attracts more "attention" and is that why your doing it? Finally, unless its upgraded to some significantly more power->Turbo rotor powered, V8'd, or something to go way beyond stock hp or bolt ons, the horsepower of the 12a or GSL-SE engines with only asperiated mod's are not going to need any additional downforce.

I'll take a functionality upgrade long before I consider adding "fat" to the car to try to move down the road.
The body kit are after all for function. It does not require a V8 or turbocharger to produce a power level that more traction or downforce is required. Even the primitive aspirated engine having only ~200 hp, needs more traction. Likewise downforce is always the issue, regardless of engine choice. Nevertheless one could in truth say a car never driven faster than 35 mph does not need these things. But then it becomes a choice of the driver. Likewise, if you do not want attention, then do not drive a sports car.
Old 01-14-05 | 01:25 AM
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Smile

If you own the car and you don't like it, give it to me, I'll take it!
Old 01-14-05 | 01:49 AM
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Noooooo!!!!!!! The hideous creature is BACK!
Old 01-14-05 | 10:00 AM
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Sorry to bring back the dead I just was curious why it seemed like everyone hated the car.

I just wanted to see what the hell the term "purple car" meant .

Sorry for the frustration!
Old 01-14-05 | 10:22 AM
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I just don't like body kits period.

Maybe when the time comes that I actually need more downforce my mind might be changed. But who knows.
Old 01-14-05 | 10:28 AM
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Im with evil............I thought the reson for buying these things are to hold on to the older and innovative stying that made it a classic in the first place. The WHOLE CAR is a classic, not just the unique powerplant.
Old 01-14-05 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by kleinke
The body kit are after all for function. It does not require a V8 or turbocharger to produce a power level that more traction or downforce is required. Even the primitive aspirated engine having only ~200 hp, needs more traction. Likewise downforce is always the issue, regardless of engine choice. Nevertheless one could in truth say a car never driven faster than 35 mph does not need these things. But then it becomes a choice of the driver. Likewise, if you do not want attention, then do not drive a sports car.
Here is an FB built for function. Notice that it still looks like an FB

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Old 01-14-05 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by eViLRotor
Here is an FB built for function Notice that it still looks like an FB .
Your example may be built for function, but is restricted by the rules it competes under. As I said wider tires are not needed if you drive 35 mph, and restricted to lower power by classification rules, wider tires would be defeating and hence no need for wider fenders. In regard to originality remember that Mazda sold wings and body kits even from the beginning. Here is another FB built for function, 23 years ago. Notice it has wider tires than your example.
Old 01-14-05 | 12:29 PM
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Another built for function. In comparison, the purple car looks no less like an FB.


Old 01-14-05 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by kleinke
Another built for function. In comparison, the purple car looks no less like an FB.


Wow where did you dig those up?
Old 01-14-05 | 01:21 PM
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If I have to explain my point to you, then I am waisting my time. But, in short, I was showing that an FB can still be true to its original styling and perform well even in a racing environment.

Those two pure, purpose built race cars are very nice specimens as well...unlike the purple abomination.

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Old 01-14-05 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by eViLRotor
If I have to explain my point to you, then I am waisting my time. But, in short, I was showing that an FB can still be true to its original styling and perform well even in a racing environment.

Those two pure, purpose built race cars are very nice specimens as well...unlike the purple abomination.
Of course it can perform well in certain environment: an environment which does not bring along the need for wider tires. The fenders of the purple car will accomodate wider tires than those of the white car or black car with rolled fenders. Furthermore if put to question the purple car is arguably more true to the stock styling than the race cars.
Old 01-14-05 | 06:31 PM
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I'm under the impresion after racing around a ~1.5mile road course(were speeds don't exceed 100mph or just touch at it) designed for training state troopers/police, unless you are going over 100mph in the FB/SA, the wings are really not very useful...Therefore, on the street were roads are mostly straight and speeds are under 90mph even on most freeways were people only can get away with 90mph sustained, its just not going to do much. However, when we are talking about tracks were speeds are above 90mph or more like 100-120mph with curves, "functional" wings like the ones shown on those examples of race versions will actually be good then in my opinion. So my saying is wing have a useful place-on the track.
Old 01-15-05 | 02:52 AM
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Aerodynamics 101

I have a couple of degrees in Aeronautical Engineering, and several friends who are expert aerodynamicists. They all agree with me that spoilers on street cars are useless gimmicks, made for sale to ignorant yuppies and teenagers. Unless you plan to spend a lot of time at speeds well in excess of 100 mph, a spoiler will have no benefit whatsoever. The rest of the body looks nice, but why not just buy a 944 - they are cheap enough now. Somebody put a huge amount of labor into that body. I would know, I have been there, done that.

As for keeping the look of the 80s in the RX-7, I went the other way, trying for the 60s Italian look, with chrome bumpers, etc. And it is all Mazda parts. Some of you may have seen my red convertible, shown on the third page of this site:

http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/646433/3
Old 01-15-05 | 06:05 AM
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Remove the hideous wing, and shes top Reminds me of a toyota celica - hideous.
Old 01-15-05 | 10:49 AM
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I am with wackyracer (as usual) if it isn't fuctional, it doesn't need to be there. SOme one on here keeps ravign about a PC-based sound system with makes me cringe.

I know I know, personal opinion, whatever.

Anyway, i doubt any of you remember this, but a few years ago on this forum we had a nOObie that claimed this car was his.... he was a real douche-bag, ricer, poster spaming little brat.

he was here for a while harassingand threatening all of the 1st gen folks, until we banned him.
Old 01-15-05 | 06:48 PM
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I like that car. But the again, I'm biased


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