Why aren't 1st gens selling good on Ebay?
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Why aren't 1st gens selling good on Ebay?
Are these cars really that value-less? Seems like there are some good RX-7s on Ebay that aren't getting bid on for some reason.
Like this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6327
I'd pay $1450 for it...Why no reasonable bids?
Like this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6327
I'd pay $1450 for it...Why no reasonable bids?
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Most cars on Ebay are pieces of crap for those type of prices. Chances are, those cars have sat in their driveways with a FOR SALE sign for the last 6 months straight with very few inquiries and obviously no sales.
I notice alot of the auctions with little to no bids, usually have questionable descriptions, or several horrible typos, which lead you to believe its a 17 year old kid selling the car.....when you're supposed to be 18 to even have an ebay account.
On this particular car.....the problem is CHICAGO. If someone lists "a few rust spots" with an FB.....that means "Don't even LOOK under the storage bins....."
It's a GS too.......not very sought after. Basically, its already a project car, with a pretty limited setup.
You have to ask yourself sometimes......why did he just invest "$2,275" and he has the reserve price at $1,450?"
Sounds like "I guess fixing those things didn't fix the problem."
I notice alot of the auctions with little to no bids, usually have questionable descriptions, or several horrible typos, which lead you to believe its a 17 year old kid selling the car.....when you're supposed to be 18 to even have an ebay account.
On this particular car.....the problem is CHICAGO. If someone lists "a few rust spots" with an FB.....that means "Don't even LOOK under the storage bins....."
It's a GS too.......not very sought after. Basically, its already a project car, with a pretty limited setup.
You have to ask yourself sometimes......why did he just invest "$2,275" and he has the reserve price at $1,450?"
Sounds like "I guess fixing those things didn't fix the problem."
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well for starters it's a 1981 thats 22years old not worth a hella lot unless you collect them like we do
and not many people know whats under the hood and some are scared of the cost of repairs
people like to see cars that they can touch before they buy them
also if its not close it can costly to go get them
and I start to wonder if its all that when I see something like
" Fresh tune-up, (cap, rotor, plugs, wires, belts, air cleaner) $250.00."
kinda pricey ya think I just did that
cap$5 , rotor$8, plugs$1.95each, wires$16, belts$7, air cleaner$2.20) under$50.00 not $250.00."
and I changed it all in the parkinglot of parts store in 15 mins as I wated for a freind to get an alt tested
so if he had some one do it for him thats $800.00 per hr
labor do the math $50 or so in parts that leaves $200.
$200. x 4 =$800.
and he put a good amout of$ in it what didn't it fix the troubles why is he realy selling
so whats he lying like a dog on a rug or did he get screwed on labor ?
also " I am in possesion of the title. "
so is this his or someone elses is it hot most likely not but?
makes me a littel gun shy
and not many people know whats under the hood and some are scared of the cost of repairs
people like to see cars that they can touch before they buy them
also if its not close it can costly to go get them
and I start to wonder if its all that when I see something like
" Fresh tune-up, (cap, rotor, plugs, wires, belts, air cleaner) $250.00."
kinda pricey ya think I just did that
cap$5 , rotor$8, plugs$1.95each, wires$16, belts$7, air cleaner$2.20) under$50.00 not $250.00."
and I changed it all in the parkinglot of parts store in 15 mins as I wated for a freind to get an alt tested
so if he had some one do it for him thats $800.00 per hr
labor do the math $50 or so in parts that leaves $200.
$200. x 4 =$800.
and he put a good amout of$ in it what didn't it fix the troubles why is he realy selling
so whats he lying like a dog on a rug or did he get screwed on labor ?
also " I am in possesion of the title. "
so is this his or someone elses is it hot most likely not but?
makes me a littel gun shy
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I know when I see "Gas tank relined" that tells me that it rusted out. If the gas tank rusted out, then more than likely the whole underside is rusted. If so, then it's only a parts car which one can pick up all day long for less than $500.
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That example car has low miles - STAY AWAY from low mile rotaries.
Also, looking at the pricing, the guy appears to either artifically inflate the value of things or he just needs some *help*... $250 for plugs/wires/air cleaner/belts???? Sure maybe if you pay someone else to do it
Also, looking at the pricing, the guy appears to either artifically inflate the value of things or he just needs some *help*... $250 for plugs/wires/air cleaner/belts???? Sure maybe if you pay someone else to do it
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Originally posted by peejay
That example car has low miles - STAY AWAY from low mile rotaries.
Also, looking at the pricing, the guy appears to either artifically inflate the value of things or he just needs some *help*... $250 for plugs/wires/air cleaner/belts???? Sure maybe if you pay someone else to do it
That example car has low miles - STAY AWAY from low mile rotaries.
Also, looking at the pricing, the guy appears to either artifically inflate the value of things or he just needs some *help*... $250 for plugs/wires/air cleaner/belts???? Sure maybe if you pay someone else to do it
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People don't realize the value of a good FB. Also, sometimes these Ebay deals aren't as good as they look. Ebay has gone downhill in the past 5 years, to the point that I don't even check it much anymore.
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106k on an 81 isn't too low. I have 120k on the 83 I bought new in 82, and 55k on the 85 I bought last year.
That car might be an OK deal, but of course the rust factor is a problem.
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That car might be an OK deal, but of course the rust factor is a problem.
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For a 20 year old car, 100k is 5,000 miles a year. That's barely any kind of mileage at all. Sitting around is the worst abuse you could subject to a rotary.
My poo '80 had only 89k when I bought it in the late autumn of '99. When I stopped driving it at the end of '01 it had 142k on it. (And that included 3 months where my driver's license was suspended) Low miles.
My poo '80 had only 89k when I bought it in the late autumn of '99. When I stopped driving it at the end of '01 it had 142k on it. (And that included 3 months where my driver's license was suspended) Low miles.
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Hey
E-bay is a good place to find all sorts of RX-7 parts and cars......Bought just about everything from IMSA rear spoiler to Targa band to interior parts........I also have bought an RX-7 from there as well.......
That Car looks like a pile...... But may have a lot of good parts and life still in it.........It might be a great deal.....
It seems first gens are not selling for very high prices because the ones I see are not worth the money........
There was a 83 auto with 11k on the clock and it was at 7600.00 last I checked........The pictures looked good.....
But because it was an GS Auto I have no interest......
Wait till a clean SE gets up there with all the bells and whistles and see it that gets up there........It all depends
if you get more that one person interested in your product.......otherwise there is no fire fight.....
E-bay is a good place to find all sorts of RX-7 parts and cars......Bought just about everything from IMSA rear spoiler to Targa band to interior parts........I also have bought an RX-7 from there as well.......
That Car looks like a pile...... But may have a lot of good parts and life still in it.........It might be a great deal.....
It seems first gens are not selling for very high prices because the ones I see are not worth the money........
There was a 83 auto with 11k on the clock and it was at 7600.00 last I checked........The pictures looked good.....
But because it was an GS Auto I have no interest......
Wait till a clean SE gets up there with all the bells and whistles and see it that gets up there........It all depends
if you get more that one person interested in your product.......otherwise there is no fire fight.....
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For a 20 year old car, 100k is 5,000 miles a year. That's barely any kind of mileage at all. Sitting around is the worst abuse you could subject to a rotary.
Care to elaborate?
p.s.
I just bought a 84 GSL with 33k miles and after replacing all the fluids etc, it runs like a champ.
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To be honest I'm not sure why it happens exactly. My *guess* is the sliding surfaces get corroded, and when the engine runs again compression is lost.
It's quite common for engines that have been sitting around to suddenly have low compression, even if they were fine when they were parked.
Remember that 3 month timeframe where I was not driving? When I started driving again, the compression was noticeably low for a period of about two months, during which it slowly came back.
It's quite common for engines that have been sitting around to suddenly have low compression, even if they were fine when they were parked.
Remember that 3 month timeframe where I was not driving? When I started driving again, the compression was noticeably low for a period of about two months, during which it slowly came back.
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Long periods of sitting is bad for ANY car, not just rotaries. Seals rot out, rubber dry rots, etc...
My first car that I ever owned was perfect when it went in the garage. It sat there for 8 months, meanwhile the tranny and oil pan seals rotted out, leaking all over the place, the ps pump went as soon as I took it back out, along with the ignition module, starter, starter solenoid, etc...
Same thing happened to my grandmother's 91 Mustang. It sits constantly, and has had multiple gasket and seal replacements over the years. Car has 50k on it, has had more stuff replaced than my truck with 147k miles....
My first car that I ever owned was perfect when it went in the garage. It sat there for 8 months, meanwhile the tranny and oil pan seals rotted out, leaking all over the place, the ps pump went as soon as I took it back out, along with the ignition module, starter, starter solenoid, etc...
Same thing happened to my grandmother's 91 Mustang. It sits constantly, and has had multiple gasket and seal replacements over the years. Car has 50k on it, has had more stuff replaced than my truck with 147k miles....
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Originally posted by bliffle
Ebay has gone downhill in the past 5 years, to the point that I don't even check it much anymore.
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Ebay has gone downhill in the past 5 years, to the point that I don't even check it much anymore.
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Originally posted by Zeta-Gouki
I see this claim ALOT, but never any valid information backing it.
Care to elaborate?
I see this claim ALOT, but never any valid information backing it.
Care to elaborate?
Lesser contributing factors to not driving the rotary go along with not driving any car - rubber parts dry up, fluids don't stay stable or become contaminated, animals move in, etc.
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I guess I dodged a bullet: my 83 was parked inside for 3 years. Then we changed all the fluids BEFORE starting it. However, I did have a bad transmission bearing, which I figure came from water condensation. The engine oil leak didn't get any worse.
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I recently bought my second GSL on ebay, unseen and without certain questions answered, for $1600, a very sweet deal. The two or three previous owners had taken very good care of it. The 1st gens were big sellers in there time and now there are a lot of good ones out there needing good homes. I think you can get a good idea about a car from the descriptions on ebay, or, more importantly, the lack of descriptions.
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