ultrasonoro

Yeah no problem Forsaken, I PM'd you some info.

ForsakenRX7

I haven't received anything from them.

aFBatw!

bastards!

Yark79

Apparently Rota is making some now too. I think there are like 2 sets on ebay right now. They're 15x8 with 20mm offset. I think they look better than the Rewinds. Does anyone know that size wheel would fit alright? I'm getting ready to need new tires, and thought I might spend my economic stimulus package money on a set of wheels.

swbtm

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Does anyone know what the offsets are for the stock rims? Thanks ultrasonoro i've been looking for nice simple rims for a very long time, hopefully these will work out.

FIBREMAZ

4x110 wheels have +25 offset, 4x114.3 wheels have +38 offset

swbtm

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thank you, have a good one

rotpower

Q 1. Has there been any recent news, or input about these wheels? Particularly the Pro Race 2's.

Q 2. Also, has there been any input from them about the wheel offset available? An offset near "0" would be best.

Q 3. Was the person you talked to based in the U.S.A. (a distributor) and would we have to wait for a shipment from the UK to be dispersed to the said distributor/retailer?

Q 4. If the answer to question 3 is no, (and you talked to a person in the UK), then could/would the wheels have to be ordered directly from the UK?

Q 5. Would the UK sell direct to the end customer?
I really don't care if someone in the U.S. makes money importing/distributing the wheels, I just want a set of (or two, or three) of 15x7's made in the correct offset without having to use spacers.

Q 6. Is there is another thread in this forum that tells more about 15x7 wheel availability (NEW wheels, not used ones) for the 4x110, 1st Gen? (yes, I have searched and surfed a lot on this forum)

Regarding Q 1-5, it would appear that a distributor in the U.S. would not make the effort needed to try to push for these wheels when they can stock and sell other wheels for newer Jap cars.

I have lurked in this forum for a long time and it appears that no headway is ever made about finding a supplier for 1st Gen wheels with 4x110 bolt patter.

Thanks for any "specific" input that someone can provide to the questions posed. Sorry to enumerate all the questions, but forums, emails and the internet are notrious for broad, brush stroke answers that only answer one, or two questions when someone has several questions. The phone is always faster to clarify and specifically clear up all the questions. No phone here for all, so I numbered all the questions.

Thanks for any input.

Don

swbtm

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I'm quite interested as well in any input that ultrasono or anyone else who has had dealings with team dynamics racing

Please post information when you are able

Thanks

Pete

a.y.b.

So what is the most common set of cheap rims that bolt on to our GSL's? Looking for something sorta cheap, stylish and small.

todd54321

I put a set of Kosei K1's on my 83 RX7 last summer with 16's. I got the last set from Tire Rack. I am very happy with them and they look great. Tire Rack did a great job balancing them and they were very good with their service.

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...osei&code=yes&

rotpower

I don't know if you bought an extra rim for a spare, but if you take your car on a race track at times, stay off the curbs, or if you use the curbs, do it smoothly and don't slide the car hard up onto curb with a jolt (or drop wheels in deepruts). We have bent some of those rims racing Miatas (15x7's), which is a lighter car in race trim. Granted also, the suspension was a lot stiffer than a stock RX-7, so that may have helped.
I say "we" bent them, this is a tad wrong, the people that bent them were rental customers with not a lot of race experience, so I can't really tell you what was required to bend them. The drivers very well could have gone trail blazing off the track really hard, hopping over the curbs. A rental driver usually won't tell you fully how hard/bad they went off. You have to make assumptions by what you see when they return to the pits: grass between tire/rim, grass inside the radiator inlent valence, etc....

I personally have never bent one of those rims racing, and I like them. I don't go off much, and I use the curbs quite a lot, but it is probably HOW, I use the curbs. Nevertheless, I did want to share our experience with the rims and let you know that in a track setting they can be bent.

Which leads me full circle to my post above, and why I like the Team Dynamics rims above for performance on a track and why I am looking for those particular rims. I do believe they are stronger than the Kosei's as we have not bent them racing.
The TD1's (first generation - Ben Hur style) are a strong rim due to the multi-spoke design, but the (1st generation) center portion can be sheared off in racing too. Two cars racing really close can rub rim to rim and shear the center spokes because they stick out from the edge of the wheel. The rim is sheared from the hub center mounting section. Like the Chariot races you see on old Roman movies. Not a good scenario. The second generation of TD1's cure this problem by placing the spokes inside the edge of the rim lip.

The Pro Race 2's have none of the ailments and have large vent areas for cooling the brakes. Which is why I'm looking for that particular style to fit 1st Gen RX-7.

Don

rotpower

I thought I'd confirm that my questions listed above was for 15x7 rims. That exact size. If anyone knows more info, please share.

Cheers

OnlyOnThurs

I heard these are discontinued for our 1st gens. I'm not 100% sure though.

Siraniko

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buy this: https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...=1#post8007751

elbee7

I went to performance wheel and tire friday and asked about redrilling wheels for us and they told me that they could drill and install inserts to make 108mm bolt pattern 110mm for $45.00 each. So if you find a set of 108's that you like they can be made to work but the next problem is most of the 108's have the fwd offset.

ForsakenRX7

Did Rota stop making wheels in our size?

swbtm

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i can tell you that tire rack definitely stopped carrying those kosei K1's, i emailed them about a week ago and they just got back to me

swbtm

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Ok, just to let you know,

I've emailed SSR about the possibility of producing this wheel in a 4x110 size...

http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheel..._c_b_ci3_l.jpg


Their website
http://www.ssrwheels.com/wheels/type_c_black.html

I would be hugely surprised if they get back to me with anything other than a no, but hey i can dream can't I?

I'll let you guys know when I hear something

Cheers

swbtm

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This is the ssr rim I was talking about, The link above for the pic is messed up... but the website link still works

ultrasonoro

OK, well here's a little update. I'll quote you my last email with Don Kane
"Clifton,

England advises they still have not built your order due to not having
enough orders in the style and size you want to justify making a production
run. Do you want to cancel your order? It may take a while to get the wheels
here. They will not put in a mold to cast wheels for just four wheel orders,
so, we are at their mercy as to when we might see these wheels.

Let me know what you want to do.

Thanks,

Dk"

This guy Don has been great to deal with and has tried to help me out, but England actually makes the wheels so he puts in orders and to be filled. Unfortunately there are sometimes issues such as this one where there isn't enough demand ( just me ) trying to get a wheel to justify a production run.

So my thinking is that unless a bunch of us order these wheels at once, same size, offset, and style, that we won't be able to get them from Racing Dynamics. If anybody is up for it I'm down. Here's Don Kanes personal email : usateamdyn@earthlink.net
Feel free to write him, tell him you know Clifton (me) and you want to get some wheels too so we can have anough to place an order. Anyway that's my plan, if there's enough interest we can do it. We don't have to settle for Rewinds!

warwickben

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send him a email asking how many sets would have to get ordered, then start a group buy. id be down with those rims if i could get them for the same price as the rewinds or for not too much more. the rewinds are hard to beat for 450$ shipped.

swbtm

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What type are you looking at, ultrasono? Pro race 1 or 2? 5 or 12 spoke?

ultrasonoro

I was looking at the Pro Race 2 five spoke in High Powered Silver. I forget the exact price he quoted me, it was somewhere between 170- 185 a wheel.

I'm flexible on the style though, I like the Pro Race 1.2's also.

If anyone else talks to him let me know. He sent me an email asking if I wanted my deposit back and I haven't gotten back to him yet.

rotpower

Having used all of the Team Dynamics line at some point in road racing with Spec Miatas, the superior wheel and design is the TD2. Better venting for brakes and beefy spokes for strength.

It also looks dang good and modern. FYI, black wheels will hide the brake dust better.

The offset should be zero.

This will provide a wheel that will both works on street vehicles and the race RX-7's in SCCA and NASA. If you make the offset greater than "0" it will eliminate part of the market for Team Dynamics.

This group buy needs to be from "their" sales perspective, not just the stock street RX-7's viewpoint. If you open up the market with a wheel that has more fitment applications to Team Dynamics, they are more apt to produce them. Narrow it down, and the chances are smaller. The zero offset wheel does this.

I know that a chunk of RX-7 racers would not buy a wheel that has an offset near 25. This would require aluminum spacers because the 2-1/2" springs and the spacers added to the bottom of the strut assembly married to a stock offset wheel conflicts with the lower tie rod end hitting the metal portion of the wheel (15x7).

The zero offset wheel is a small difference that will not jeopardize bearing life and will allow additional inner wheel well clearance at full lock under loaded conditions.

I have read on this forum about fitment problems with other RX-7's with the Koenig wheels. I can attest that the upper clearance near the tire and wheel is close to the springs. They clear, but not by much. I cannot say what the fitment issues were on some of these street RX-7's, but I imagine it may have been due to suspension mods or parts used sometime over the life of their car. If you have done some of the handling mods and upgrades to the factory suspension, you will definitely have conflicts with a 15x7 wheel with an offset near 20'ish like the Koenigs.