What am I getting myself into?
06-25-08, 10:04 PM
#76
yeah, but that's with the engine off the car, his engine is still mounted on the car, which makes it harder man........ maybe i just got lucky on my first tranny removal/intallation, took me two days but like 5 hrs total work, that's taking my time making sure where to place things so that i don't get confused and such, tranny took me 1.5 hrs to mount it back on the engine.
. I know pineappleracing has a video thats shows which way to put it in, but you can't see it worth crap. Other than that I can't find anybody that has a picture of which way the seal should go in. I tried jacking up the front of the oil pan, but it didn't seem to make the rear of the engine tilt down. Let you guys know how it goes in a few hours.
06-26-08, 08:29 AM
#78
the problem is that I can get the tranny somewhat parallel with the engine but the rear of the tranny where you put the the shifter in isn't even close to where its supposed to go. That metal thing holding the rubber boot on is blocking the tranny from me trying to position onto the engine.
Did you disconnect the exhaust? With only the front mounts holding the engine it should be able to tilt back until the oil pan rests on the cross member. I use a small piece of wood between the pan and crossmember to avoid damaging the oil pan.
Much good advice already. I screw a bolt from front to back through the open threaded hole on top of the engine for a guide. Using a floor jack for the tranny, I get the bell housing and engine parallel then wiggle and push the tranny into place. With the tranny lined up I start a long bolt in the lower right hole (away from the starter). With one bolt started you can wiggle the tranny up and down against the bolt while tightening a little at a time. You should feel when it pops in.
06-26-08, 11:06 AM
#79
I feel bad mentioning this, this late in the game... but if you're not sure you got the pilot seal in correctly (as stated earlier), you might want to sort that out before you put the trans back in.
Unless you'll enjoy doing it again, I guess.
Unless you'll enjoy doing it again, I guess.
06-26-08, 11:11 AM
#80
I found out how to get the tranny in less than ten minutes. I totally forgot about the exhaust and how it holds the engine up. Took a pipe out and it slipped in. I'll have her up on the streets later today. I'll let you guys know how it all works out.
06-26-08, 11:11 AM
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I wouldn't worry too much about that PB seal, it's just sort of a Hail Mary Prayer anyhow. Many PB's have been installed on all kinds of cars without one. Amazing how much mileage those little high-spinning needle bearings can take. Even though they're case-hardened to support loads, that hardening is not tougher than silicon dust so they'll eventually wear. When you think about the service they have to give it makes you want to treat your clutch with more respect. Did you inspect the old PB to see how it wore out? I bet the needles themselves were not much worse than the new ones you put in.
Did you change your transmission input shaft bearing? Now that's something worth worrying about.
Did you change your transmission input shaft bearing? Now that's something worth worrying about.
06-26-08, 12:42 PM
#83
I wouldn't worry too much about that PB seal, it's just sort of a Hail Mary Prayer anyhow. Many PB's have been installed on all kinds of cars without one. Amazing how much mileage those little high-spinning needle bearings can take. Even though they're case-hardened to support loads, that hardening is not tougher than silicon dust so they'll eventually wear. When you think about the service they have to give it makes you want to treat your clutch with more respect. Did you inspect the old PB to see how it wore out? I bet the needles themselves were not much worse than the new ones you put in.
Did you change your transmission input shaft bearing? Now that's something worth worrying about.
Did you change your transmission input shaft bearing? Now that's something worth worrying about.
Now I got another problem though. I have the rear of the tranny held up by a jack and I can't get the tranny mount on. It doesn't line up at all. I need the engine and tranny to move like a another inch forward for it to be in place. What do I do?
06-26-08, 01:00 PM
#84
That's a sad story, Jeff.
So you could have just reached around to the back of the transmission and rotated the output shaft until the input shaft splines aligned with the internal splines of the clutch disk (assuming the gears were engaged).
IIRC, the clutch plate ID has a slight bevel and so does the transmission input shaft, that should help them mate a little.
It seems so simple but so many clutch jobs falter during transmission re-install that it's astonishing. If humans had this much trouble mating the human race would die out!
So you could have just reached around to the back of the transmission and rotated the output shaft until the input shaft splines aligned with the internal splines of the clutch disk (assuming the gears were engaged).
IIRC, the clutch plate ID has a slight bevel and so does the transmission input shaft, that should help them mate a little.
It seems so simple but so many clutch jobs falter during transmission re-install that it's astonishing. If humans had this much trouble mating the human race would die out!
06-26-08, 02:26 PM
#85
Ya, the old pilot bearing was intact. But there was rust and lots of dirt in there. It was totally dry. No grease whatsoever! You talking about the throwout bearing? I replaced that. Not sure what you mean?
Now I got another problem though. I have the rear of the tranny held up by a jack and I can't get the tranny mount on. It doesn't line up at all. I need the engine and tranny to move like a another inch forward for it to be in place. What do I do?
Now I got another problem though. I have the rear of the tranny held up by a jack and I can't get the tranny mount on. It doesn't line up at all. I need the engine and tranny to move like a another inch forward for it to be in place. What do I do?
06-26-08, 08:18 PM
#89
Alright. Trying to put the clutch slave back in and the clutch slave doesn't even move. It's stuck. Am I supposed to bleed it? New one? Don't get how it worked perfectly before and now it doesnt move. I try to push it in with the little boot covered rod but it won't, its stuck. 
06-26-08, 09:01 PM
#90
It's like a brake piston; you have to push pretty hard for quite a while to move the fluid from the piston to the resivour, because the hose bore is tiny.
You'd only need to bleed it if you'd opened the system (or if the fluid needs changing). The fact that it's hard to push in probably means you have little or no air in it.
You could crack open the bleed (over a jar! Crap will shoot yards) and it would be easy to push in, but you have to close it before it bottoms, or you'll have to bleed it to get the air out.
You'd only need to bleed it if you'd opened the system (or if the fluid needs changing). The fact that it's hard to push in probably means you have little or no air in it.
You could crack open the bleed (over a jar! Crap will shoot yards) and it would be easy to push in, but you have to close it before it bottoms, or you'll have to bleed it to get the air out.
06-26-08, 09:25 PM
#91
you'll definitely have to bleed it, i had to do it when i took my tranny off, it's not hard, just like bleeding breaks, but do be careful and put a bottle or something over it so that it doesn't squirt and get all over your car..unless you plan on repainting it.
06-26-08, 09:42 PM
#93
i know that feeling 
right now i couldn't drive mine cuz i decided to do the seafoam thing and i think i poured too much in there and flooded my engine and it wouldn't start (yes i tried pushing the gas pedal all the way down) and i got pissed cuz i spent all morning waxing it and everything, but hopefully it'll be running tomorrow lol
right now i couldn't drive mine cuz i decided to do the seafoam thing and i think i poured too much in there and flooded my engine and it wouldn't start (yes i tried pushing the gas pedal all the way down) and i got pissed cuz i spent all morning waxing it and everything, but hopefully it'll be running tomorrow lol
06-26-08, 11:09 PM
#94
Mine's been on blocks for almost 3 years (failed smog, need parts that are hard to come by) but I'm feeling inspired, and have started grubbing thru my parts and notes, to see if I can resurrect it.
The wife crabbing about it having been sitting in the garage for that long is, I assure you, merely secondary.
The wife crabbing about it having been sitting in the garage for that long is, I assure you, merely secondary.
06-26-08, 11:23 PM
#95
merely secondary eh? lol, are you sure it wasn't one of those situations "either that thing goes, or i go?" and you chose your car :P j/k man (just a joke, not trying to offend you, sorry if i did, i'm always making jokes and i get carried away lol)
06-27-08, 06:28 AM
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Mine's been on blocks for almost 3 years (failed smog, need parts that are hard to come by) but I'm feeling inspired, and have started grubbing thru my parts and notes, to see if I can resurrect it.
The wife crabbing about it having been sitting in the garage for that long is, I assure you, merely secondary.
The wife crabbing about it having been sitting in the garage for that long is, I assure you, merely secondary.