TII swap into GSL-SE
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Hey all just got all the bugs worked out of using factory ECU, most were mechanical, Car runs like a champ strangly sounds like a TII Any way ill update my site when there is time for me to do so. Putting a 13BT in an SE is easier than any other model.
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A TII flywheel won't work in a SE or 12A tranny. If you use the smaller tranny, use the smaller lightweight flywheel, with the TII counterweight.
READ THE LINKS that have been posted. Turbofb.com combined with the yahoo groups turbofb list archives will soon be able to answer about any swapper's questions!
R
READ THE LINKS that have been posted. Turbofb.com combined with the yahoo groups turbofb list archives will soon be able to answer about any swapper's questions!
R
Originally posted by Directfreak
You don't NEED the TII Tranny, it is recommended though.
You can use the SE tranny (or even 12A Tranny) with a lightweight TII Racing Beat Flywheel and the TII counterweight.
You don't NEED the TII Tranny, it is recommended though.
You can use the SE tranny (or even 12A Tranny) with a lightweight TII Racing Beat Flywheel and the TII counterweight.
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Originally posted by faster7
A TII flywheel won't work in a SE or 12A tranny. If you use the smaller tranny, use the smaller lightweight flywheel, with the TII counterweight.
A TII flywheel won't work in a SE or 12A tranny. If you use the smaller tranny, use the smaller lightweight flywheel, with the TII counterweight.
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Originally posted by abeomid
well if you are planning to use a 12A tranny or even a GSL-SE tranny, you better have bunch of extra ones ready and get really good at chaning them
well if you are planning to use a 12A tranny or even a GSL-SE tranny, you better have bunch of extra ones ready and get really good at chaning them
Originally posted by peejay
You could, just stock them like cordwood in the garage and plan to get good at changing them...
You could, just stock them like cordwood in the garage and plan to get good at changing them...
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Stock trans will hold up fine asa long as you dont beat the crud out of it.
My trans has 135+K and holds up fine, I use Redline Shockproof and MTL mixure. The weakest part is the diff.
Biggest problem with 1G trans. are sncros due to powershifting.
Note: Any part will fail if mistreated.
My trans has 135+K and holds up fine, I use Redline Shockproof and MTL mixure. The weakest part is the diff.
Biggest problem with 1G trans. are sncros due to powershifting.
Note: Any part will fail if mistreated.
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Originally posted by Turbo FB.
Stock trans will hold up fine asa long as you dont beat the crud out of it.
My trans has 135+K and holds up fine, I use Redline Shockproof and MTL mixure. The weakest part is the diff.
Biggest problem with 1G trans. are sncros due to powershifting.
Note: Any part will fail if mistreated.
Stock trans will hold up fine asa long as you dont beat the crud out of it.
My trans has 135+K and holds up fine, I use Redline Shockproof and MTL mixure. The weakest part is the diff.
Biggest problem with 1G trans. are sncros due to powershifting.
Note: Any part will fail if mistreated.
Chris,
Is your swap finished? Are you going to update your site?
inquiring minds want to know.
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I need to purchase a new Dig. camera so i can post photos of the finished product.
For people who have 81'-85' non SE i'm developing a plug in adapter for stock 87'-88' ECU 89'+ will come
later I'm hoping by the end of the summer.
If anyone has any Q's e-mail me directly. I be glad to help.
To answer a few Q's, The car runs great bust tires loose in 4'th gear when boost hits,With a hard shift And no trans problems.....
For people who have 81'-85' non SE i'm developing a plug in adapter for stock 87'-88' ECU 89'+ will come
later I'm hoping by the end of the summer.
If anyone has any Q's e-mail me directly. I be glad to help.
To answer a few Q's, The car runs great bust tires loose in 4'th gear when boost hits,With a hard shift And no trans problems.....
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Originally posted by Turbo FB.
I need to purchase a new Dig. camera so i can post photos of the finished product.
I need to purchase a new Dig. camera so i can post photos of the finished product.
Whenever I go on a trip, I leave the Digicam at home. I buy a regular disposable 35MM camera, and when I have it developed - I check off the box from them to give me a set on CD.
It's cheap, and you don't have to worry about losing an $$$ camera.
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Thanks!
I will be detailing the modifications to the tranny mount on my website very soon. I had a bit of a problem, and managed to break out the rubber on the mount. Now I need a new series 5 center rubber tranny mount piece.
Basically, the mount is custom, but not too difficult to do at home if you have a drill and maybe a Dremel. Mind you that this is for a series 5 tranny into a SE only. YMMV if you are using a 12A model or a series 4 or 6 tranny.
Using the stock SE motor mounts and the cross-member portion of the SE tranny mount, you are only going to be off by about an inch on the shifter position, so ignore all the BS you have heard about modifying the shifter linkage.
So, the stock SE rubber tranny mount piece (which bolts directly to the SE tranny) has only one bolt hole, and the TII rubber center piece (that you will need to attach to the TII tranny) has two studs. New holes must be drilled into the SE mount cross-member about 1/4" to the rear of the stock SE single hole, and obviously in the correct position to accept the twin studs. Then it's all a matter of making it all fit. Keep all the connecting points for all the mounts loose until everything is sitting properly.
Also, it seems to me that a little added tranny slack may be attainable by simply boring the four holes for the bolts through the TII center rubber mount about 1/8" towards the front of the car to allow that much more slack. I'll be trying this too, so if you are nervous about hacking things up, wait for the pics and stuff on my site.
Like I said, details will be on my website in a week or two. And pictures. I'm sure this babbling is none to discernable without pictures.
I will be detailing the modifications to the tranny mount on my website very soon. I had a bit of a problem, and managed to break out the rubber on the mount. Now I need a new series 5 center rubber tranny mount piece.
Basically, the mount is custom, but not too difficult to do at home if you have a drill and maybe a Dremel. Mind you that this is for a series 5 tranny into a SE only. YMMV if you are using a 12A model or a series 4 or 6 tranny.
Using the stock SE motor mounts and the cross-member portion of the SE tranny mount, you are only going to be off by about an inch on the shifter position, so ignore all the BS you have heard about modifying the shifter linkage.
So, the stock SE rubber tranny mount piece (which bolts directly to the SE tranny) has only one bolt hole, and the TII rubber center piece (that you will need to attach to the TII tranny) has two studs. New holes must be drilled into the SE mount cross-member about 1/4" to the rear of the stock SE single hole, and obviously in the correct position to accept the twin studs. Then it's all a matter of making it all fit. Keep all the connecting points for all the mounts loose until everything is sitting properly.
Also, it seems to me that a little added tranny slack may be attainable by simply boring the four holes for the bolts through the TII center rubber mount about 1/8" towards the front of the car to allow that much more slack. I'll be trying this too, so if you are nervous about hacking things up, wait for the pics and stuff on my site.
Like I said, details will be on my website in a week or two. And pictures. I'm sure this babbling is none to discernable without pictures.
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Tranny mount issue continued...
Okay, my previous post has some misinformation in it. Sorry.
Here's the deal: I took both trannys and mount sets in to a custom fab shop and said "make this one fit on the chassis where this one fits now". So they cut the flat ears off the GSL-SE mount (piece that houses the rubber cushion) and fabbed up some 45° angled ears to match the TII tranny mount.
Pictures of what I am babbling about.
So, making it work is not quite as simple as I described above, although that drilling and dremeling modification must still be done to make things line up, even with the ears welded on, unless the ears are welded in the correct position to fit without further modification.
Sorry for speaking out before I had all the facts straight.
Here's the deal: I took both trannys and mount sets in to a custom fab shop and said "make this one fit on the chassis where this one fits now". So they cut the flat ears off the GSL-SE mount (piece that houses the rubber cushion) and fabbed up some 45° angled ears to match the TII tranny mount.
Pictures of what I am babbling about.
So, making it work is not quite as simple as I described above, although that drilling and dremeling modification must still be done to make things line up, even with the ears welded on, unless the ears are welded in the correct position to fit without further modification.
Sorry for speaking out before I had all the facts straight.
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Do the 89-91 T2 transmissions have a different mounting point than the 87-88? Looks like you went through a lot of trouble to make that fit. I just took the stock -se crossmember and made a spacer plate to raise the trans up and thats all. Sounds like you wen't through a lot of extra work to make it fit??
Here's a bad pic of the alum spacer I made
Here's a bad pic of the alum spacer I made
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