Thwick thwick thwick from rear brake
#1
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Thwick thwick thwick from rear brake
Chasing a noise.
Right rear wheel.
Thwick thwick thwick once per wheel revolution.
Does it most of the time but not all of the time.
Does it when coasting, accelerating and braking.
Noise gets much louder on right hand turns.
Noise got worse after I pulled and reinstalled drum to check pad thickness.
Pad thickness is good according to manual at 4mm.
Wheel has a spacer and current theory is one of the spacer bolts is slightly too long and touching something behind the drum under unweighted conditions. However did not see any marks inside brake that would match this theory. Going to take it all apart again…. Anyone got any suggestions of what else to look for once I am inside?
1981 FB all original except wheels. Drum brakes on rear.
(Sooooo glad to be finally posting something other than a chronic flooding issue!)
Right rear wheel.
Thwick thwick thwick once per wheel revolution.
Does it most of the time but not all of the time.
Does it when coasting, accelerating and braking.
Noise gets much louder on right hand turns.
Noise got worse after I pulled and reinstalled drum to check pad thickness.
Pad thickness is good according to manual at 4mm.
Wheel has a spacer and current theory is one of the spacer bolts is slightly too long and touching something behind the drum under unweighted conditions. However did not see any marks inside brake that would match this theory. Going to take it all apart again…. Anyone got any suggestions of what else to look for once I am inside?
1981 FB all original except wheels. Drum brakes on rear.
(Sooooo glad to be finally posting something other than a chronic flooding issue!)
Last edited by Slow_sevens; 08-16-22 at 08:45 PM.
#3
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New to this world so checking my terminology. Hub centric means the adapter centers on the hub using a bevel on the large hole that slides over the hub boss, and lug centric means the spacer centers on the hub using the bevels on the lug nuts that attach the spacer to the hub?
My recollection is that the spacer attaches to the hub with four chamfered bolts that tighten like regular lug nuts to center the spacer. Then there are four threaded studs sticking out of the spacer over which the wheel slides and attached with four chamfered nuts. My kid did the work with the help of the auto shop he was working at so would need to take it apart to refresh my memory.
Am I going to die?
My recollection is that the spacer attaches to the hub with four chamfered bolts that tighten like regular lug nuts to center the spacer. Then there are four threaded studs sticking out of the spacer over which the wheel slides and attached with four chamfered nuts. My kid did the work with the help of the auto shop he was working at so would need to take it apart to refresh my memory.
Am I going to die?
Last edited by Slow_sevens; 08-16-22 at 09:59 PM.
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Here is a good explanation. RX-7's are hub centric. If your wheels are not hub centric, they will need hub centric rings.
https://www.discounttire.com/learn/hub-rings
https://www.discounttire.com/learn/hub-rings
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Spent a couple of hours down the rabbit hole Googling around various forums. An awful lot of chatter and nothing definitive. The link provided concludes that hub centric rings would help with centering but are not required structurally… but opinions elsewhere are all over the place.
#6
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Warped brake drum maybe? Could have one spot out of round that's contacting the backing plate or one of the shoes.
Maybe swap the drums side to side and see if the noise travels with it?
Maybe swap the drums side to side and see if the noise travels with it?
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I do like the idea of switching drums side to side as a way of narrowing down the cause of the noise. I will be working on the Watts link tomorrow and will add the drum swap to the list.
Last edited by Slow_sevens; 08-17-22 at 11:56 AM.
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Spent a couple of hours down the rabbit hole Googling around various forums. An awful lot of chatter and nothing definitive. The link provided concludes that hub centric rings would help with centering but are not required structurally… but opinions elsewhere are all over the place.
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#9
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Interesting. Will check the bearing when I have the wheel off tomorrow, see if I have play or can feel/hear anything. Rear does make a constant grumble noise at highway speed but assumed that was because The Kid removed all trunk lining mats when the hatch window leaked and everything got soaked.
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Fixed! Swapped the drums left to right and it got worse. Thwick thwick thwick from BOTH sides. And louder…. Pedestrians were turning to see what the noise was.
Pulled both wheel spacers and cut the bolts shorter (making sure I left enough for full thread engagement plus a bit extra). Noise has now gone.
Now for the next project…. Rack and pinion steering.
Pulled both wheel spacers and cut the bolts shorter (making sure I left enough for full thread engagement plus a bit extra). Noise has now gone.
Now for the next project…. Rack and pinion steering.
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So was it the spacer or the length of the bolts? Not sure about FB's, but SA's did have two different lengths of stud bolts. One for the aluminum waffle rims and a shorter version for the basic steel rims. It even extended to the hold down bolt for the spare. Would assume this carried over to the early FB's. If you have an aftermarket rim, maybe those are also thinner in this area and required a shorter bolt?
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So was it the spacer or the length of the bolts? Not sure about FB's, but SA's did have two different lengths of stud bolts. One for the aluminum waffle rims and a shorter version for the basic steel rims. It even extended to the hold down bolt for the spare. Would assume this carried over to the early FB's. If you have an aftermarket rim, maybe those are also thinner in this area and required a shorter bolt?
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Defn worth checking. Mine has been silent ever since I cut the bolts down. You probably already know this but just in case… thread a nut of the same diameter and pitch on to the bolt before cutting then you can remove the bolt which will clean up the thread and make it easier to start the bolt back in to the hub.
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Defn worth checking. Mine has been silent ever since I cut the bolts down. You probably already know this but just in case… thread a nut of the same diameter and pitch on to the bolt before cutting then you can remove the bolt which will clean up the thread and make it easier to start the bolt back in to the hub.
Also great tip. I learned that sheet the hard way a few years ago lol.
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