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Old 07-01-02 | 07:51 PM
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Renesis 1:Genesis

Here's what makes sense to me:

As I stated in a previous post I'm planning to build a Renesis-powered rocket with independant rear suspension, custom interior and refreshed exterior styling, etc.

Is it feasable to offer components of this build up as separate items for sale?

For example, how many of you would like a set of custom tail lights that use clear, modern styling but don't look like they're out of an Altezza parts bin? I'm planning a set that look similar to those on an RX8 with the aluminum trim ring towards the center of the car and two aluminum character lines flowing out, following the placement of the creases in stock 81-85 tail lights.

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Old 07-01-02 | 08:13 PM
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That'd be cool, but its WAY WAY down my list. Go fast and then look good in my book
Old 07-01-02 | 08:28 PM
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i take it you have a manufacturing person or purchase/manufacturing person that is going to price out which injection companies the design your drafters finished up on right. sorry, couldn't resist.
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actually, jeremy, I've been in touch with parts manufacturers for months costing out different plastics and their pros/cons as far as cost, manufacturing processes, etc. go - and that's just for the acoutrements. Then there's bulk purchase of mechanical components in negotiations, etc.

I post these questions in this forum as one component of an overall market research strategy.
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Originally posted by Manntis
actually, jeremy, I've been in touch with parts manufacturers for months costing out different plastics and their pros/cons as far as cost, manufacturing processes, etc. go - and that's just for the acoutrements. Then there's bulk purchase of mechanical components in negotiations, etc.

I post these questions in this forum as one component of an overall market research strategy.
As far as everything goes with tail lights I think you will make a lot of money on them But remember a lot of them are off the road in junkyards, youd be better of making them for cavaliers, what a
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After a while all these "what if" questions seem...well..."Iffy".

What IF I HAD:

    In the immortal words of "Dude Where's my car"..

    "There is no more AND THEN"

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    I'd be a lot more interested in the IRS, rack and pinion steering, etc, than in taillights or bodykits.
    Old 07-01-02 | 09:46 PM
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    Yeah dude, if you sold mechanical parts you'd be loved by everyone.

    If not, then you'd start a first gen ricer revolution.

    "No, it only LOOKS like a Genesis."
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    Directfreak, a feasability query is quite different than your mocking 'what if' list. Don't be the post ***** your own signature warns against.
    Old 07-01-02 | 11:23 PM
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    Originally posted by Manntis
    Directfreak, a feasability query is quite different than your mocking 'what if' list. Don't be the post ***** your own signature warns against.
    No, No, No...

    This is Post Whoring.

    Old 07-01-02 | 11:32 PM
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    You're right. What you're doing is just being rude.
    Old 07-01-02 | 11:35 PM
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    Originally posted by Manntis
    You're right. What you're doing is just being rude.
    Manntis, don't take me too seriously. Every once in a while I am grumpy at "generic,repeated" questions and let off some steam with the graphics.

    I just have a very sarcastic sense of humor. I am not picking on you, I was just playing.

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    he's just saying that most of this seems like what comes and goes. nothing ever really happens. he's responding not only to you too. he also is past his diaper changing time.

    most aftermarket light kits turn out to be crap. silver falls off, etc. if you want quality then i would suggest following the plastics used by the manufacturers. reinforced, uv protected abs everywhere possible.

    these would be more appreciated by ricers. most of us want to see the irs, etc. the renesis idea is good in a unique setting but for business ventures, its going to be tough. taillights, like mike said, there just isn't going to be enough volume sold to pull the price into a reality for most and yet keep the quality that they aren't a one year adddition that ends up becoming a laugh.

    now designing an adapter and irs system that could replace our solid axle would be of far more interest, use more off the shelf parts and only be downplayed by peejay.
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    Am I the only one who thinks the tailights might look cool? And I'm not too sure, but usually, if the lights cost something like 50 bucks, im sure if it looks awesome that people would want to get them, its just a matter of getting a picture of them up and ensuring quality...blah blah blah. If you dont like them, don't buy them or put your old ones back on. You could always show them off when you are just cruising or whatever.
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    whatever floats your boat. i wouldn't spend money on taillights when i can use it to make my car faster. otherwise i would get a civic and dick it out like everybody else but get smoked by rv's. my little 12a needs all the help it needs anyway. the irs i like since i autox and the grip that could be attained in an adjustable rear suspension plus an lsd is definitely a bonus.
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    Jeremy, you're speaking my language hombre. Let's leave the ricer stuff for the civics that need to make up for their lack of *****. We have real cars; we don't need that junk.

    And Defprun, 50 bucks?? You're joking right? Have you checked the prices of aftermarket taillights anytime lately? Not to mention, as previously noted, that there's no way in hell of doing any kind of volume for SA/FB RX-7s.

    Personally, I think SA/FBs are magic because of their clean, classic sportscar lines. Trying to make them "modern" only makes them look confused and immature. Keep em' old school, keep em' clean.

    now designing an adapter and irs system that could replace our solid axle would be of far more interest, use more off the shelf parts and only be downplayed by peejay.
    Peejay, where ya at? You need to say something like "Why would you want a Renesis when you could have a 12A?" Come on man, don't leave me hangin...
    Old 07-02-02 | 01:11 AM
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    Thanks, guys. This is the sort of input I was looking for.

    First on my development list: a bolt-in IRS.
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    honestly i can't see how the stock FD taillights can be improved
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    Originally posted by Directfreak
    After a while all these "what if" questions seem...well..."Iffy".

    What IF I HAD:

      In the immortal words of "Dude Where's my car"..

      "There is no more AND THEN"

      Are you in a bad mood there Alex ?????
      Old 07-02-02 | 10:59 AM
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      Originally posted by cpt_gloval
      honestly i can't see how the stock FD taillights can be improved
      fB. i meant fb. hehe.
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      Personally I don't really even like those clear lens things on newer cars. I don't see the point. I don't see how they make it look more "modern". I don't see how they do anything for making it easier to see the brake lights when they are applied. This is just my opinion, But I wouldn't want to make my car look any different from stock as doing this has made my car a magnet for the wrong attention: Cops, ricers, cops, ricers, cops, ricers. This is also why I will NOT get a large crom tip for the exhuast, it attracts the wrong attention and is out of perportion to the nessessary size of the piping leading to the muffler. I guess I'm just "anti-rice".

      Pretty much anything that isn't really functional and improves power or performance is worth the trouble. The "attractiveness" of having such as a newer style brake-light will probably go out of style after a while also like fins on cars in the late 50's and 60's.
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      NO, you're not alone... I think they would look cool too...



      Originally posted by defprun
      Am I the only one who thinks the tailights might look cool? And I'm not too sure, but usually, if the lights cost something like 50 bucks, im sure if it looks awesome that people would want to get them, its just a matter of getting a picture of them up and ensuring quality...blah blah blah. If you dont like them, don't buy them or put your old ones back on. You could always show them off when you are just cruising or whatever.
      Old 07-02-02 | 07:09 PM
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      you two guys want to pay 200 a piece? thats about where the pricing falls right now.

      i like liquorrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
      Old 07-03-02 | 11:14 PM
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      The stock '79-80 taillights are perfect, altering them would be a sin
      Old 07-03-02 | 11:52 PM
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      I'm referring to 81-85. They tend to lose their seal and get full of dirt/cloudy in northern climes


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