Project Kramer - *VIDEO* - High Boost
08-27-05 | 09:33 PM
#26
Before this video i was thinking about buying just a Hybrid upgrade for my TII engine....now i've got no chioce but full single!! lol very nice job on the car... Looks amazing.... Cant imagine what its like to drive with almost 500rwhp... Now you need to get some slicks and lift those wheels off the ground!
08-27-05 | 09:49 PM
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From: Behind a workbench, repairing FC Electronics.
Originally Posted by Pele
How heavy is the Ford 8.8 as compared to the stock GSL-SE rear end? It took me and one other dude to carry one around.
08-27-05 | 10:14 PM
#32
FD > FB > FC
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From: Bothell, WA
Originally Posted by TeemSlo
13b Making 700 hp with a single turbo has happened??? Need proof check out
Most Powerful 13B?
Hyperrev- 700PS 13B (640x480)
Hyper rev magazine 700ps RX7 (640x480) 700PS RX7 (640x320)
700ps 13B RX7
(640x320) 700PS 13B (640x480)
700ps 13B
(640x480) Japanese Specifications (640x480)
Specifications (in Japanese) (640x480)
This FD3S (3rd generation) RX7 is made by a company called Esprit.
It is powered by a 13B-REW engine which the modifiers claim makes 700ps (ps is 'metric horsepower', and is measured differently - probably about 650 SAE horsepower).
Turbo: Single T78 @ 1.5 kg/cm (21 PSI boost)
Muffler: Stock
Computer: Stock
Injectors: Six 550cc and Six 440cc
It also features a lot of HKS equipment such as boost controller, auxiliary fuel computer.
It is a pricey conversion at over $US 10k as you could build a 20B for the same price.
The car is on page 49 of the Japanese book 'Hyper-rev RX7 FC3S & FD3S', published in 1992 in Japan. This book is available from time to time in Japan and is a Japanese RX7 fan's bible. Unfortunately it is virtually impossible to get outside Japan.
There is another 13B of comparable power made by a company called 'Scoot'. It uses a peripheral port and single turbo.
Pictures captured from a video that's on the web. There's 3 guys sitting on the back of the car to try and help traction on the dyno!
(Update Dec 2002 - the esprit RX7 was made in 1992, 10 years ago at time of writing. this was leading edge at the time at it took until about 1999 before I heard of others making 600-700hp 13B-REW engines with mostly stock internals, I have heard reports of 740, even 800hp from a 13B-REW on nitrous. It would be feasible to set up the intake ports, turbo and fuel systems for 900hp although this is really in exploding engine territory)
Most Powerful 13B?
Hyperrev- 700PS 13B (640x480)
Hyper rev magazine 700ps RX7 (640x480) 700PS RX7 (640x320)
700ps 13B RX7
(640x320) 700PS 13B (640x480)
700ps 13B
(640x480) Japanese Specifications (640x480)
Specifications (in Japanese) (640x480)
This FD3S (3rd generation) RX7 is made by a company called Esprit.
It is powered by a 13B-REW engine which the modifiers claim makes 700ps (ps is 'metric horsepower', and is measured differently - probably about 650 SAE horsepower).
Turbo: Single T78 @ 1.5 kg/cm (21 PSI boost)
Muffler: Stock
Computer: Stock
Injectors: Six 550cc and Six 440cc
It also features a lot of HKS equipment such as boost controller, auxiliary fuel computer.
It is a pricey conversion at over $US 10k as you could build a 20B for the same price.
The car is on page 49 of the Japanese book 'Hyper-rev RX7 FC3S & FD3S', published in 1992 in Japan. This book is available from time to time in Japan and is a Japanese RX7 fan's bible. Unfortunately it is virtually impossible to get outside Japan.
There is another 13B of comparable power made by a company called 'Scoot'. It uses a peripheral port and single turbo.
Pictures captured from a video that's on the web. There's 3 guys sitting on the back of the car to try and help traction on the dyno!
(Update Dec 2002 - the esprit RX7 was made in 1992, 10 years ago at time of writing. this was leading edge at the time at it took until about 1999 before I heard of others making 600-700hp 13B-REW engines with mostly stock internals, I have heard reports of 740, even 800hp from a 13B-REW on nitrous. It would be feasible to set up the intake ports, turbo and fuel systems for 900hp although this is really in exploding engine territory)
robert at rotary shack made 720RWHP on a 12A it can certinaly be done on a 13b
08-27-05 | 10:15 PM
#33
FD > FB > FC
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From: Bothell, WA
BTW... direct freak, i respect your car more and more everytime I see it.... i plan to build something similar to yours one day, but for the time being, it isnt going to be in the body of a first gen
08-28-05 | 09:57 AM
#37
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Wow... Just... WOW!
Way to kick some serious ***. That car was the car of my dreams *before*, back when you beat the crap out of that Z, but now it's above and beyond.
You're an inspiration to all of us here on the forum.
Jon
08-28-05 | 11:48 AM
#38
Suicidal Death Missile
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From: Newport News, Virginia
Damnit that thing is NASTY. I can't wait to get my TII project underway now. Granted, I'll be lucky to have 300 RWHP on stock ports, turbo, ECU....but DAMN.
Now you've got me looking for a Haltech.
And I keep watching the Video over, and over, and over.
Uber nice car Freak. Sweet job on the tuning Crispeed.
Oh yea, where'd you get the soundtrack from? It's sweet listening to it...between the pulls. I can't hear it during.
Now you've got me looking for a Haltech.
And I keep watching the Video over, and over, and over.
Uber nice car Freak. Sweet job on the tuning Crispeed.
Oh yea, where'd you get the soundtrack from? It's sweet listening to it...between the pulls. I can't hear it during.
08-28-05 | 12:14 PM
#39
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I can has a Hemi? Yes...
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Originally Posted by dj55b
I'm just curious ... how much money have you dumped into that car by now?
I still haven't worked on making the car "pretty" either. Still need to install the widebody, new wheel$, etc.
If I were to do it all over again, I would do a true TII swap like Steve84GS/Rex4Life, and make the car as light as possible - keeping the stock rear and stock tranny. 300rwhp is plenty fast in these cars.
Originally Posted by aws140
have you taken it to a road course yet? if so, how does it do handling wise? what level of boost do you usually run before it gets to where you cant handle the curves?
Originally Posted by Pele
How heavy is the Ford 8.8 as compared to the stock GSL-SE rear end? It took me and one other dude to carry one around.
Originally Posted by perfect7
Hey D/F nice job,
my new motor is done and I will drop it in next weekend and I am gunning for you!!!!!
ps your threads have been a big help for me on my project,, thanks...
my new motor is done and I will drop it in next weekend and I am gunning for you!!!!!
ps your threads have been a big help for me on my project,, thanks...
Originally Posted by lovintha7
Damnit that thing is NASTY. I can't wait to get my TII project underway now. Granted, I'll be lucky to have 300 RWHP on stock ports, turbo, ECU....but DAMN.
Oh yea, where'd you get the soundtrack from? It's sweet listening to it...between the pulls. I can't hear it during.
Oh yea, where'd you get the soundtrack from? It's sweet listening to it...between the pulls. I can't hear it during.
TII with the stock ECU. Look at Steve84GSTII's bad @$$ car. His is even smog legal!!
Trust me, you'll be suprised at how well 300rwhp moves these cars. I should've gone that route, for a fraction of the cost and time.
The music is:
1) "What is Fight club" by the Dust Brothers
2) "Benedictus" by Brain Bug
Thanks for the nice comments guys - It means alot to me. Especially my still emerging Video-making skills. Trust me, you guys are an inspiration to me as well.
08-28-05 | 03:35 PM
#41
Suicidal Death Missile
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From: Newport News, Virginia
Now you've got me shooting for 300 RWHP, and I won't be happy till I get there. Oh well, it'll sure be fun trying to get there. I still have to get the friggin motor back in one piece.
08-28-05 | 06:19 PM
#43
Airflow is my life
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From: Orlando, Fl
Awsome video, your skills are improving greatly. And yes you are an inspriation to all of us. Anything is truly possible. Including a monster 1st gen. 
Keep up the good work, and if Im ever down that way I wanna drop by and check that beast out for myself. 
Keep up the good work, and if Im ever down that way I wanna drop by and check that beast out for myself.
08-28-05 | 11:46 PM
#44
yes, i must say that Kramer is definitely an inspiration ... and i think he's pretty enough as is, too.
i ahven't seen the video yet though. i moved out of my apartment, so no more cable Internet. i'm back with this dial-up crap.
can't wait to see it though.
congrats on the numbers, too.
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i ahven't seen the video yet though. i moved out of my apartment, so no more cable Internet. i'm back with this dial-up crap.
can't wait to see it though. congrats on the numbers, too.
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08-29-05 | 10:59 AM
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From: Chester
Originally Posted by aws140
that is BY FAR the best first gen i have ever seen. the only ones that can rival it are the renesis and the 20b first gens. you car is what i hope to be able to build one day, with a few differences. i give you major props on the car. have you taken it to a road course yet? if so, how does it do handling wise? what level of boost do you usually run before it gets to where you cant handle the curves?
dude your 1st gen is KILLER. i am so impressed. i have one but it barely runs. how much did that motor cost?
