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Old 03-04-08 | 10:04 PM
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power increase with header? from dell?

ok, thanks to many of you i have my 84gs running beautifull with my new dell 48 sidedraft. it does put down much more power. question is how much more will a header help now? im just running 2.25 pipping through a performance muffler and stock ex mani. big numbers?
Old 03-04-08 | 10:12 PM
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lol at big numbers.

But you should notice it
Old 03-04-08 | 10:26 PM
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haha. is there a huge difference between re, rb, and pacesetter?
Old 03-04-08 | 10:27 PM
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Yes. Pacesetter is trash. RB is good stuff. I don't have any experience with Rotary Engineering's headers.
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Originally Posted by slate84
ok, thanks to many of you i have my 84gs running beautifull with my new dell 48 sidedraft. it does put down much more power. question is how much more will a header help now? im just running 2.25 pipping through a performance muffler and stock ex mani. big numbers?


WTF? you dont got a header???? that should be #1 on your list
Old 03-04-08 | 11:24 PM
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haha, i guess i was lusting over the intake. should it seriously be number one?
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yes but for you, ok to be #2
Old 03-05-08 | 12:13 AM
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on route with my next check, along with a msd 6al box. what next?
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turbo? lol

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Old 03-05-08 | 12:27 AM
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whats a good suspension setup for one of these?, i'd really like to autocross it in the future!!

ps. can someone give me a guestiment .25 mile time with a similar setup to mine with a header? (12a gs, dell 48 dhla, one piece intake, free flow exhaust and header, and a 6al box?)
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no less than 16.5
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For suspension, you could use ST, RB, or Eibach(if you can find them) springs and pair them with Tokico shocks in either the blues or Illuminas(adjustable). as far as drag times, if you know how to get down the track right I'd say 14's would be fair, depending on vehicle and driver weight
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If you've got the cash after upgrading the springs and shocks mentioned above, an RB front swaybar and panhard/tri-link setup should be next on your list.
Old 03-05-08 | 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by FirebirdSlayer666
For suspension, you could use ST, RB, or Eibach(if you can find them) springs and pair them with Tokico shocks in either the blues or Illuminas(adjustable). as far as drag times, if you know how to get down the track right I'd say 14's would be fair, depending on vehicle and driver weight
At max, he's putting out no more than 150hp, since that seems to be what the stock ports limit it at. Now, 150hp will good tires and proper launch will probably get you low 15's at best, mabey not even that low. My 82 with S4 13B pushing probably about the same power only managed a 15.53.

As for suspension, if you can handle a harsher ride, go for coilovers in the front. Won't cost you much more than what was mentioned above if you buy the parts from ReSpeed, and it will greatly improve handling over "lowering springs". I've got 250lb springs on the front of my car and it is harsh, but not crazy rough. The thing handles like its on rails too, even without an aftermarket sway bar.
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Alot depends on weight as well. I managed a 16.090 with just exhaust, direct fire, and an RB air box. That's with old tires and a shitty running stock carb. With new tires and a good running carb mid 15's for me would be possible. With a Sterling I could hit low 15's I'm sure. With full intake and an MSD box I don't see why high 14's couldn't be possible as long as he doesn't weigh 250 lbs LOL
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195lbs. haha.
Old 03-05-08 | 02:42 PM
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Well, his car weighs right around 2400lb probably, about what mine is I think. FirebirdSlayer666, I notice you have 2 cars in your sig. Which one did you run the 16 in?

I guess I should mention that my 15.53 was with a real shitty launch, 2.3sec 60foot time which is horrible. I just couldn't get the car to launch right. I probably could have gotten a 2sec 60foot time if I had more practice, which woulda put my times in the low 15's.
Old 03-05-08 | 03:03 PM
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This is still 12a right? You shouldn't be pushing out more than 140 hp at crank. I have a six port GSL-SE motor with mikuni 44 and headers, straight pipe and all that and am probably only pushing 150rwhp I would think...not sure though.
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i had a civic that ran a 13.9 on azenis and would like my 7 to due similar since i got ride of the civic for this. haha.
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How is the altitude where you are?
I know in Colorado you loose about 1 second in E.T. over the coast. I am also at about 6,500 feet. Here you would be in the 16's.
Old 03-05-08 | 03:28 PM
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You won't see much change in performance without a freer flowing exhaust setup. Since you have the Dell setup and running right you need a header, some silencers and a free flowing exhaust. I have the RE system from back in the day with my Dell and it works great. Its really quiet until you romp on it. As some of the guys at our meet can tell you

Never dynoed it but my guess is its putting out max bhp of 150. As previous poster said, stock port 12a can't put out anymore than that really.
Old 03-05-08 | 03:38 PM
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i have the free flow exhaust minus the header im going to get when i get my next pay check.
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Originally Posted by 85rotarypower
Well, his car weighs right around 2400lb probably, about what mine is I think. FirebirdSlayer666, I notice you have 2 cars in your sig. Which one did you run the 16 in?

I guess I should mention that my 15.53 was with a real shitty launch, 2.3sec 60foot time which is horrible. I just couldn't get the car to launch right. I probably could have gotten a 2sec 60foot time if I had more practice, which woulda put my times in the low 15's.
Sorry. This was in my SA. The FB is inop at the moment. She should weigh somewhere around 2450 or so with me in it. I was having launch troubles as well. I kept getting too much wheel spin off the line and she kept breaking traction into 2nd. I had 2.3 60' as well. The FB was all stock whenever I ran it at the track. I ran an 18.03 as my best time in the FB LOL. I could have gotten lower but I was a noob at drag racing and didn't know how to launch right



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