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Old 01-12-06, 03:55 PM
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Unhappy nead some more help please

my 84 7 has not ben working for the last month at first i was haveing problem getting spark and i was able to fix that problem by replacing the coils and the distributer and i got it started. i drove it around my block ant then i was going to try to time the engin. i tryed timing it and i could not figure it or properly so i read the manule and was able to understand how to do the timing. so the next day i wen to time it and again it would not start. i rechecked all the wires and it was still getting spark and still would not turn over. i removed one of the plugs and it was soaked in fuel like it had flooded it's self. so i removed the plugs and craked the enging to blow out some of the fuel. i wen and bought new plugs today and put them in this time putting the multy ground plugs that are suposed to be in the engin and it started up the moment i turned the key. i let it run for about 30 min and it died again and cant get it started again. and the plugs are soaked with fuel once again. pleas if you got any ideas i am realy runing out of ideas i need some help please.
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you have major carburetor problems that need to be addressed.
Time for a carb rebuild.

flooding = carb problems.

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take the air filter off and turn the ignition on, is gas pumping into the carb if so your floats are bad.....replace or better rebuild carb...
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it is not a 12a it is a 13b so it does not have a carberator
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These cars have a injector issue that one of the SE guys can help you with, I have heard the injectors can leak causing the flooding issue.

Do a search in the 1st gen archive for fuel injector fuel leak....
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thanks i realy apprieciat all the help
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No problem just a hint do a search or check the FAQ all the time, most things you'll ever come across will be in there.
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ok i will do that i will report back if i still cant fix it
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well i took out the fuel injectors and resealed them due to the fact that i was told that they got a tendincy to leak but the car is still flooding its self. i am completly out of ideas now.
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I'm guessing now but check your fuel pressure....
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how would i go about doing that. cause i was thinking that their mite be a way to regulate the fuel dilvery. like a "brain" or somthing
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remove your fuel line at the fuel rail, then put a pressure gauge on it, might as well do a timed measure to check volume also, run it into a container for 60 seconds an check th amount of fuel.

Are you sure your trailing plug is firing, check it by removing one and placing it near the block, spark should jump.
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well i will try any thing at this point. thanks? do you hapen to know that volume that should be displaced.

also have you heard of any thing like the brain cause i cant seem to find it
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I'm not very versed on the 13b FI 1st gen sorry, the ECU is under the floor carpet at the front of the passenger side floor.

One of the most knowledgeable people here is Trochoid, try PMing him with a reference to this post.

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thanks
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well i wanted to thank every one that helped me . the car is running. it was a wire between the battery and the ignition coil i still got to find the break but the car runs as long as i jump power directly between the two.
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