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My GSL SE has oil dripping from the rear differential

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Old 02-13-14, 10:18 AM
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I use a local repair garage for those fixes I don't have the time for or the equipment. I burned the pilot bearing in the 84 FB. Yes, I've taken out transmission on a 74 RX3, but did not have the time for this job. There is nothing particular about replacing the parts. The shop did it in a morning, I supplied all the parts. Told them I had the Hanes book, they said leave it on the front seat.

It gets down to dollars vs. time. I wanted the car back on the road and the cost was acceptable.
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My pilot bearing grenaded about 25k mi ago just after I did the clutch. It started to get louder and louder, and then suddenly got completely silent!

Apparently, the pilot bearing in the flywheel to guide the trans input shaft is there to reduce vibration, but I had more issues with noise and vibration when it was failing than running without.

I'll eventually put another one in with my engine swap - but the pertinent point here to the OP is to handle the maintenance when/how you have time/$. A rear end rebuild is a costly repair compared to re-sealing the pumpkin and checking the fluids regularly.
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This thread is of interest as I noticed a little seepage on mine. But its only around the fill and drain plugs.

If I had the leakage in the pictures I would either fill it up and get it somewhere quick, or figure out how to fix it myself.

I've blown rear axle seals on our E-150 van by crushing the wheel bearing. Once I found it in time when checking the rear brakes. The other time was on I-70 in PA going into Pittsburg on vacation. Found a Ford dealer 20 mile away, filled it up & stopped every 5 miles to check it till I got to the dealer. An axle and bearing and seal is one thing. The complete rear-end is another.
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Originally Posted by TimWilbers
This thread is of interest as I noticed a little seepage on mine. But its only around the fill and drain plugs.

If I had the leakage in the pictures I would either fill it up and get it somewhere quick, or figure out how to fix it myself.

I've blown rear axle seals on our E-150 van by crushing the wheel bearing. Once I found it in time when checking the rear brakes. The other time was on I-70 in PA going into Pittsburg on vacation. Found a Ford dealer 20 mile away, filled it up & stopped every 5 miles to check it till I got to the dealer. An axle and bearing and seal is one thing. The complete rear-end is another.
Best part is that I have since gone to a oil change center and they let me under the car and take a look at it. They checked all my oil levels including the differential, all were fine. I also noticed that my right front suspension bushing is also bad and that my exhaust skid plate has been taking a beating because of my driveway and speedbumps. But the diff doesn't seem like it has a problem apart from the seal. I ordered a seal from Racing Beat so I should be able to just remove the front part and replace it or give it to a shop because I don't have the necessary tools.
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Uhhh, that 'front part' you're talking about weighs a ton, because it's not just a housing, it's the ENTIRE assembly that carries the internal bearings, the ring & pinion, the spider gears, the LSD, and is solid steel, filled with gears made of solid steel, and running on bearings made of steel. Please don't think you can drop the driveshaft, unbolt that 'front part', and just pull it out to replace the gasket, because you'll crush yourself under the car!

Plus, you likely won't have enough clearance under there to drop the front of the 3rd member without removing the entire rear axle as one piece, but I'm sure someone here has done exactly that - because we have an amazingly resourceful group of people driving these cars.
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Originally Posted by LongDuck
Uhhh, that 'front part' you're talking about weighs a ton, because it's not just a housing, it's the ENTIRE assembly that carries the internal bearings, the ring & pinion, the spider gears, the LSD, and is solid steel, filled with gears made of solid steel, and running on bearings made of steel. Please don't think you can drop the driveshaft, unbolt that 'front part', and just pull it out to replace the gasket, because you'll crush yourself under the car!

Plus, you likely won't have enough clearance under there to drop the front of the 3rd member without removing the entire rear axle as one piece, but I'm sure someone here has done exactly that - because we have an amazingly resourceful group of people driving these cars.
Hmmm. Noted. Thanks for the information! That actually makes me really want to just give it off a shop so they can do it because they'll have the tools required to handle something like this. Also, do you think its the front seal? Because I've ordered one of those and it still hasn't arrived (2 weeks ago) from Racing Beat. I also ordered their Streetport exhaust about 3 or 4 weeks ago and it still hasn't arrived yet (probably because its coming from California via ground.) but my Pineapple inserts came in about 5 days and they were from California so I don't know.
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The bolts that attach the differential carrier "pumpkin" to the axle housing will often loosen over time. I had the same thing happen many years ago. I was planning to do some other work to the rear axle anyway, so I pulled it, cleaned everything, resealed it, and re-installed. I intentionally put RTV on the bolt threads, to help lock them in place.

If you want the best solution, get some studs, install them with high strength Loctite, then use flat washers with nylok nuts.

If you're going to pull the axles, you might consider replacing the bearings and seals. They don't cost much, and the extra labor isn't much if you already have the axles out of the car.
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Originally Posted by elwood
The bolts that attach the differential carrier "pumpkin" to the axle housing will often loosen over time.
I had this happen to mine. I just used a socket and ratchet and tightened each bolt. A couple were really loose. Tightening them solved the problem - I didn't have to take anything apart.




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