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Is my 12a dead?

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Old 05-13-08, 12:57 PM
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It sounds like a broken apex.Because my gsl broke an apex seal,and is sounded just like that.
Ok my bad for not reading the hool thing. Thats not a good thing dude is going to need a new housing.
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Really though.. how could it destroy my housing?

I still have 60 psi on the other 2 faces
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Is you'r motor stock???And if it is you'r going to need a housing.The reason is that the stock apexs when is brack it scratches the housing.So it is not a good thing,and if you have,let say a atkins apexs then you'r ok.Because when an atkins or other's brack the housing dose not get damage. correct me if im wrong.

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Old 05-15-08, 01:06 AM
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id dump a bunch of atf and seafoam and see if it is a stuck apex. and if you could unstuck it...worth a shot right....
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Stock engine yes.. had about 225k kilometers on it

Whether it was stuck or not.. last night I pulled the engine
Ill post pics in a bit
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Perfect circle...... what is your avatar???? Is that something on your hood or what???
Old 05-17-08, 12:35 PM
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You will see a bad rotor and a bad housing...
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225km sounds about right for the first blown apex seal on a stock motor that wasn't cared for correctly from day one.
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I bought the car from a guy who didnt know a carburetor from an alternator.. let alone a rotary engine.

I imagine it was not cared for like it should have been.. the year after I bought it I took care of it well and it ran good, but then it caught up

Oh well.. Time to make use of that S5 turbo I have waiting for me
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Took a peek inside the 12a and saw the problem Apex seal..

It is in fact still seated in the rotor, not cracked or broken..
BUT the spring is long gone, i dont know if its broken or fell out? or whatever.. but basically i push on the seal, it goes in the rotor and does not spring back.. it just sits in there till i turn the engine, then it wiggles out again.. no spring at all

This is the whole problem right here..

Is it possible to take apart half of the engine and just fix that one thing? I know its not worth it.. but I'd rather do that than have my 1st gen down all summer and winter..
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Added pics!

Attempted pics of the problem apex seal.. then random engine bay cleaning fun pics..
Went to town with the simple green and pressure washer

Also doing a major suspension upgrade, everything in the front end of the car.. steering, all suspension.. coilovers, sway bars.. brakes.. the whole package
And a good coating of the wheel wells and engine bay.. More pics and updates to come!








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The answer to my original question..
Yes my 12a is in fact dead, both housings, one rotor.. Pics to come

Tore it down today
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Whoops, the good news is you get to tear down a 12A (I'm waiting for the day).

Also that's one hell of a nice engine bay.
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Thanks Ray!
Finished pics coming



Well, there she is.. its pretty rough

I plan to be joining the ranks of the 12a turbo members soon though
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10 min south of Edmonton, Leduc to be exact
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Major updates:

I don't know if I should've made a new thread for this.. but what the hell,

PICS! WEEE









Old 7up bottle previously pictured with the grimy 12a
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Hey, that's one fine looking block.
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