mxrider101

hi everyone, i am new to the 7 world and have aquired a basket case 85 with 13B and aftermarket turbo. After assembly the motor smokes and has a miss at 4grand. now it don't want to start and the plugs are saturated in fuel. someone said it may be water on the plugs and my motor is bad. i can't find any info on the turbo. i don't know if everything is hooked up right. Could it be a problem with the fuel pressure regulator or does anyone have any other ideas? the guy who said it may be blown also said they didn't come with 13B in 85. is that true? thanks

Vashner

GSL-SE's had a 13b EFI but not turbo from factory.

What do you mean "after assembly"? Give more details. A pic would be good.

Just slow down and take your time here. When you go to start it, it cranks (rotates) right?

mxrider101

rotates good and did run for a time. i only have drove it about 4 times and only a few miles each time. it had a hesitation so i tried to adjust a screw on the fuel injection that turned out to be a throttle position sensor. put it back to what the book said and now it just won't start. it does try to and nearly does but.....no go. thanks

mxrider101

sorry, after assembly was because i got the car without the motor in, just parts and a supposedly good block.

Vashner

Well sounds like it's time for a compression test first. Post pics of engine too.

mxrider101

how do i post pics? what should i have for compression? I will try that sunday. I was told the turbo is after market. thanks

rearviewmirror

You can host your picture at the following link then just link them on this site. http://host.fotki.com

I realize your car isn't stock, but this article might help since you're adjusting things like the TPS when you should probably be looking else where. It sounds like you have a GSL-SE w/ a turbo bolted on so this just might help...

http://www.nellump.net/peri/epi/firs...gslseIdle.html

djessence

Also just cuz it has a hesitation does not mean it is a done motor, especially since it has aftermarket turbo.

I dont have experience with rotary turbos but have a fair amount with boinger turbos, and if you just slap a turbo on and dont spend the time and money tuning it it will can have serious hesitations and bogs, usually just before hitting boost as the turbo is spooling up.

Which sounds about the right rpm for your problem. ~4000 RPM the turbo should be spooling.

Just something else to consider. More info would help as previous people have said.

Vashner

Make sure everything is setup and the fluids are fresh and proper. No need to burn out something just from rushing. I learned that the hard way in the past.

mxrider101

yes it is a gsl-se. my compression tester has a bad guage so i will get one Monday. I believe it is a cartech? turbo. fresh fluids were done apon install of the motor. I will try to figure out how to post pics as rearview has advised but I'm not a computer genius. Thanks to everyone!!

mxrider101

http://hotimg6.fotki.com/p/a/71_214/124_205/6.jpg I hope I did the pic right.

mxrider101

http://hotimg12.fotki.com/p/a/71_214/124_205/1.jpg another try, different pic

mxrider101

I did a compression check and came up with a 95 for T1 and a 90 for T2 on the peaks.had trouble reading the pulses on T1. seemed to go to 95 every pulse. T2 was a 25-25-90. Is this good? what do you think iI should do next? Thanks to everyone.

yetterben

T2 is low low good. Have you tried starting it? you might just have a stuck seals

Clearkut

iTrader: (1)

numbers like that on t2 dont sound to good at all, very similar to my 12a with a blown apex seal, PSI should not vary much at all between pulses.

mxrider101

I have tried starting but it doesn't want to go. sounds like I need a motor? is it difficult rebuild or expensive or do i look for a different engine? anyway to unstick a seal? thanks

yetterben

No spark NO fuel what gives spray some ether in that bich!!!!!!! that ****** should run on one rotor if nothing else. Have u taken the exhaust mani off and looked inside the engine at the apex seal. its pretty easy to do man!!!

Vashner

It is kinda cool. I have not seen one like that before. Sounds like it's time to make a decision. Roll it (sell as roller), fix it as is or go a little more practical and do a NA 13b rebuild or swap.

mxrider101

lots of spark. an over abundance of fuel. i was told it could be water but it sure smells like fuel. have not took of the exhaust to look at the apex, wouldn't know what to look for. if i wee to sell what would be a reasonable price? i'll try the ether. thanks

Vashner

It's not a daily driver right? Take your time and fix it up.

Clearkut

iTrader: (1)

once you get a good look through the exhaust port (look at every seal, it should be fun) if no visibly cracked or missing pieces, maybe try some seafoam treatment or other decarboning treatments to try and unstick it, you defiantly do want to make sure you have good spark and proper fuel pressure

mxrider101

OK, heres where I'm at. low compresion on T2. trying the seafoam trick. I have added it to both rear plug holes and turned it over by hand, add more,turn, and added while turning. I plan on waiting a couple days before another compression check and continuing what i am doing until then, but does anyone have more suggestions? is there anything i should do before the compresion check, like something to get the seafoam out? Thank you all for the huge amount of help i have got. this site rocks!!!

don_truck

Did you end up getting it going?

mxrider101

somewhat. unstuck the seal with seafoam. good stuff! still flooding and narrowed it to the fuel pressure regulator. just need to buy that and try again.

djessence

so it was just in fact a stuck seal and some fuel system troubles? good stuff.