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Old 05-07-04 | 12:47 PM
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What do yall think about a monza header out of victoria british???
Old 05-07-04 | 12:49 PM
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Same price as a RB one. RB is better made.
Old 05-07-04 | 12:52 PM
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They're over-priced junk. I had to replace a bunch of ones that a few friends had, just **** poor.
Old 05-07-04 | 01:41 PM
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Thin tubing that burns through right at the 90 degree bend from the exhaust port, tinny sound because of a lack of metal, and on top of that, they get all rusty after your first 50 miles.

Go ahead and get them! (just kidding)

Get the RB headers and you'll never have a complaint about them. They are a reputable company that ships quickly and has a demonstrated commitment to the rotary community. Also, make the investment in a presilencer to help with the tone of the exhaust note with the header installed - the full kit, including rear muffler (PowerPulse) is fantastic and really makes the car sound unique without sounding 'rice'.

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Old 05-07-04 | 01:59 PM
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Personal experience....

Haven't had a problem with mine.

Save some cash and buy a header used, they show up here on a monthly basis.
Old 05-07-04 | 04:58 PM
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I have one. straight pipe all the way from the header to the monza(pacesetter) exhaust. I've put about 5,000mi. on the system and no problems. Yes, the black finish will burn away within the first 50mi. of driving. Personally, I'm happy with the sound. Of course, I bought this not knowing about the Rb system. I've never heard a RB so I wouldn't know to compare.....

I'm sure Racing Beat knows a heck of a lot more than monza about rotaries though!
Old 05-07-04 | 05:06 PM
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I'm really happy with my RB exhaust - best tip has been mentioned - if you don't want to spend the money: Buy used, they pop up all the time on this forum and ebay...
Old 05-07-04 | 05:09 PM
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Once you feel the power and sound difference of RB, you will know that the Monza system leaves much to be desired.

I think somebody has a dyno sheet comparing the two exhausts...or am I dreaming?
Old 05-07-04 | 05:11 PM
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would love to see a dyno!
Old 05-07-04 | 05:15 PM
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I got a monza for sale if your interested. Header and cat should hook up to the original exhaust. Got surface rust but still functional. Removed cause you cant use a header and a turbo at the same time
Old 05-07-04 | 06:25 PM
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crap you guys are making me feel stupid. I bought a pacesetter awhile back not knowing about RB.

Ill prolly get an RB sometime.
Old 05-07-04 | 06:33 PM
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do pacesetter and racingbeat headers end up in the same place at the end? To where I could just put a new header without changing the rest of the exhaust.
Old 05-07-04 | 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by Rx7carl
Same price as a RB one. RB is better made.
Going for brevity, eh?

Good choice.
Old 05-08-04 | 02:05 AM
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Brevity? What's that?

(just kidding - those who know me will laugh)
Old 05-08-04 | 10:30 AM
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Brevity? What's that?

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lol
Old 05-08-04 | 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by RotaryRyan
do pacesetter and racingbeat headers end up in the same place at the end? To where I could just put a new header without changing the rest of the exhaust.
Ryan, the pacesetter wont die an early death. I used one on my racecar for a couple of seasons, then traded it to Pratch. AFAIK, it's still going strong. And I used header wrap, which kills headers. No they dont end up in the same place. IIRC its the pacesetter thats a little longer. Leave it on there dude. It's fine.

Anyone else out there have experience with both?
Old 05-08-04 | 02:14 PM
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lol i live in monza , but dont know what is a monza header
Old 05-08-04 | 05:04 PM
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mine was great
dont buy them new tho
Old 05-08-04 | 05:22 PM
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lol i live in monza , but dont know what is a monza header
It's a company that makes headers and stuff. They made in Mexico.
Old 05-08-04 | 06:23 PM
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ah.. on my rex i have a Racing Beat =) what is better?
Old 05-09-04 | 05:17 AM
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my butt dyno goes to RB. I was not expecting it but the RB headder seemed to be more responsive in the lower RPMs
Old 05-09-04 | 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by Scruch
ah.. on my rex i have a Racing Beat =) what is better?
RB is better made, but cleaning up the monza header of all the excess weld flashing inside makes it work probably just as well. Or at least close to it.
Old 05-09-04 | 01:40 PM
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Aren't the Monza headers unequal length?
Old 05-09-04 | 05:21 PM
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Yes they're unequal length, which is not a problem in real life. The intake manifold ports are inequal length too and nobody seems to get into a snitfit for it.

I have NEVER had a problem with burn-through and I've done some STUPID things to my exhaust systems.

I paid a whopping $100 for mine. Go on and find a new RB header for that much!

HOWEVER that does come at a "price"... it's only a bolt-in if you have a '79 or '80, anything else requires some fabbing. Expect the bolt holes to be too small and improperly positioned. Expect to spend a lot of quality time with a die grinder cleaning the collector out - the joining of the two tubes to the collector is *very* casual, and the exhaust flow ends up having to go through a tiny slit.

But once you're over those hurdles, they work just fine.
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