It's official, 2006 model Rx-7 is coming!!
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has anyone thought about how well rx-8's are selling in japan? im sure that matters to them at least a little bit. and, obviously the rx-8 isnt the most popular car on the road, but do we really want it to be? part of the beauty of the rotary is its uniqueness. anyway, the fact is the rx-8 is here in america after what, 7 or 8 years without the fd? its a step in the right direction. be patient.
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Originally Posted by Bern
If you guys only knew on the future of RXs...
I love internet specualtion and all of its insiders and knowledge base.
Ford and Mazda do share knowledge on R&D.... Ford has a presence at the Mazda R&D Center in California, and both companies share knowlegde bases for product development... they have seemed to have been able to play to each others strengths and make both companies better...
Stay tuned, Rotary Power is still looking good at Mazda!!
-Bern
I love internet specualtion and all of its insiders and knowledge base.
Ford and Mazda do share knowledge on R&D.... Ford has a presence at the Mazda R&D Center in California, and both companies share knowlegde bases for product development... they have seemed to have been able to play to each others strengths and make both companies better...
Stay tuned, Rotary Power is still looking good at Mazda!!
-Bern
I agree, anyone who thinks mazda isn't looking to introduce another rotary vehicle into the market isn't playing with a full deck of cards
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I strongly suggest there will never be a RX-7 replacement.
The Miatra started as a cheap sports car along with the Ford Capri. Since then it has gradually gone up market towards where the RX-7 was. The new model looks outstanding and at last will have room for tall people. Sales will be at a very profitable level.
The RX-8 is selling moderately well in its established market niche. The last RX-7s were too complex for most mechanics to understand. The 8 is simple in comparison.
The only market niche not covered yet by Mazda is the luxury sports car market which will pitch it up against Audi, BMW, and Porsche. As such it will not be a RX-7 replacement inspite of being on the RX-8 platform and having a rotary.
One of the advantages of the Gen 1 was you could work on your own car, modern vehicles are far too complex and you need equipment costing just as much as the car. Gone are the days of dropping an engine out, rebuilding it and going for a burn-up at night. This is another reason the spirit of the 7 can never be replaced by a high tech machine rotor or not.
I fully support previous threads, Mazda was rapidly going bust until the corporate level management/financial skills of Ford came to the rescue. The rotary would have died with the demise of Mazda.
What chances Ford building a Capri replacement and adding a rotary to come in the market above the Miatra?
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The Miatra started as a cheap sports car along with the Ford Capri. Since then it has gradually gone up market towards where the RX-7 was. The new model looks outstanding and at last will have room for tall people. Sales will be at a very profitable level.
The RX-8 is selling moderately well in its established market niche. The last RX-7s were too complex for most mechanics to understand. The 8 is simple in comparison.
The only market niche not covered yet by Mazda is the luxury sports car market which will pitch it up against Audi, BMW, and Porsche. As such it will not be a RX-7 replacement inspite of being on the RX-8 platform and having a rotary.
One of the advantages of the Gen 1 was you could work on your own car, modern vehicles are far too complex and you need equipment costing just as much as the car. Gone are the days of dropping an engine out, rebuilding it and going for a burn-up at night. This is another reason the spirit of the 7 can never be replaced by a high tech machine rotor or not.
I fully support previous threads, Mazda was rapidly going bust until the corporate level management/financial skills of Ford came to the rescue. The rotary would have died with the demise of Mazda.
What chances Ford building a Capri replacement and adding a rotary to come in the market above the Miatra?
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Originally Posted by pjr
Mazda has one plant that makes rotary engines. It's already running at full capacity. They will need to expand capacity (an investment) or reduce RX-8 output in order to produce another rotary-based product.
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Originally Posted by Goopy
folks in this section are here because $$$$ somehow prohibits us from going any further ......with that being said stop teasing us with this stuff..
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>RX-8 output will naturally reduce and Mazda will expand production as necessary! So no real issue there.
a new 7 might take some sales of the 8 away, but i bet if mazda sees enough demand to sell almost as many 8s as now plus a lot of 7s they will find a way to increase production.
"I put the Oh in Ghetto!"
a new 7 might take some sales of the 8 away, but i bet if mazda sees enough demand to sell almost as many 8s as now plus a lot of 7s they will find a way to increase production.
"I put the Oh in Ghetto!"
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The Rotary has been in the Mazda Family for over 40 years so i dont expect mazda to stop making the rotary any time soon!
and that picture of the new rx7 looks just like the Chrysler Crossfire
and that picture of the new rx7 looks just like the Chrysler Crossfire
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Originally Posted by Goopy
folks in this section are here because $$$$ somehow prohibits us from going any further ......with that being said stop teasing us with this stuff..
My '85 GSL-SE is my dream car. If I only ever only ever own one car, this is it!
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Originally Posted by Bern
RX-8 output will naturally reduce and Mazda will expand production as necessary! So no real issue there.
-Bern
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Fitz is quite right, there is no room in the Mazda lineup for a new RX-7, not with the Miata moving upscale and the RX-8 occupying 350z price territory.
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Originally Posted by MosesX605
Come on Bern, you know better than anyone that Mazda has a sales target for the RX-8 that must be maintained, and that they will need a large capital outlay to increase the production of rotary engines. This is all from the mouths of management.
Fitz is quite right, there is no room in the Mazda lineup for a new RX-7, not with the Miata moving upscale and the RX-8 occupying 350z price territory.
Fitz is quite right, there is no room in the Mazda lineup for a new RX-7, not with the Miata moving upscale and the RX-8 occupying 350z price territory.
You notice I did NOT say anything about a new RX-7! And yes Mazda has a sales target for the RX-8, but they also know that the future of the Rotary can not rest soley on the RX-8 platform. There needs to be diversity to keep the future bright for Rotary power.... and engineering and design are working hard to make this happen!
-Bern
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Originally Posted by Bern
I know better and a lot more than that!!! The RX-8 will decrease in sales naturally over the next few years, as the 350Z has, and Mazda will need to find future platforms for Rotary motor production...
You notice I did NOT say anything about a new RX-7! And yes Mazda has a sales target for the RX-8, but they also know that the future of the Rotary can not rest soley on the RX-8 platform. There needs to be diversity to keep the future bright for Rotary power.... and engineering and design are working hard to make this happen!
-Bern
You notice I did NOT say anything about a new RX-7! And yes Mazda has a sales target for the RX-8, but they also know that the future of the Rotary can not rest soley on the RX-8 platform. There needs to be diversity to keep the future bright for Rotary power.... and engineering and design are working hard to make this happen!
-Bern
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Originally Posted by Bern
I.... and Mazda will need to find future platforms for Rotary motor production... You notice I did NOT say anything about a new RX-7! And yes Mazda has a sales target for the RX-8, but they also know that the future of the Rotary can not rest soley on the RX-8 platform. There needs to be diversity to keep the future bright for Rotary power.... and engineering and design are working hard to make this happen!
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Originally Posted by MosesX605
Sounds like we agree then. I too would like to see a compact rotary powered car to compete with the RSX types.
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Originally Posted by smnc
Actually...
My '85 GSL-SE is my dream car. If I only ever only ever own one car, this is it!
My '85 GSL-SE is my dream car. If I only ever only ever own one car, this is it!
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