Ignitor Tester
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Ignitor Tester
Here's my latest project - an ignitor tester. Yea, I know...it's a bit of overkill, but I wanted to do it and now I have one and it'll be effortless to test ignitors from now on. I used an LED for the light, and they've been known to go bad from time to time, so I added a button to test it...that's the red button in the picture. The square gray button is for testing the ignitor. And the best part is...it works!
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Very sweet. I picked up one from Kevin??? He is on the Listserv it is OK but not near as nice as what you have made.
The only thing needed now is a pulse generator so you can turn it on and watch the led blink.
The only thing needed now is a pulse generator so you can turn it on and watch the led blink.
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Originally Posted by wecycle
Can you send me the schematic and parts list or post the info for others?
Dennis L. Cote
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The schematic is straight out of the factory service manual, except for the use of an LED instead of a lamp (which also required that I add a 220 ohm resistor to limit the current to the LED) and the LED test switch. I'll redraw it later to include these items. I'll also take another picture with the ignitor removed to show the metal plate that it attaches to, which is how the base of the ignitor gets grounded.
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Originally Posted by Hades12
Very sweet. I picked up one from Kevin??? He is on the Listserv it is OK but not near as nice as what you have made.
The only thing needed now is a pulse generator so you can turn it on and watch the led blink.
The only thing needed now is a pulse generator so you can turn it on and watch the led blink.
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Originally Posted by 64mgb
You know, I wish you hadn't said this...now I'll most likely do it! And I thought I was done.
Make the generator adjustable so that you can simulate an RPM increase. Got to do a through test you know.
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Originally Posted by Hades12
But wait theres more.
Make the generator adjustable so that you can simulate an RPM increase. Got to do a through test you know.
Make the generator adjustable so that you can simulate an RPM increase. Got to do a through test you know.
I'll never be done...
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OK...here's the schematic. Sorry, this is the first time I've used this schematic drawing software, so it isn't the best. I've also attached a picture with the ignitor removed, showing the metal plate it's attached to.
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power source
Rich:
Would this work using a 9v battery insted of the battery clips?
Seems like the signal from the pickup coil is very low V but the ignitor power may need 12V.
Did you tap the metal plate or use nuts underneath to attach it to the box and to attach the ignitor to the plate?
Is there a source for the small connectors on the back of the ignitor?
Dennis L. Cote
Would this work using a 9v battery insted of the battery clips?
Seems like the signal from the pickup coil is very low V but the ignitor power may need 12V.
Did you tap the metal plate or use nuts underneath to attach it to the box and to attach the ignitor to the plate?
Is there a source for the small connectors on the back of the ignitor?
Dennis L. Cote
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Hi Dennis - I really don't know if it would work with a 9v battery or not, but I'll try it this weekend. I've been wondering what's inside the ignitor. My guess is that it's a power MOSFET, but I don't know for sure.
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ground
Will it be necessary to ground the - terminal of the inductive pickup connector?
I can use the connector block from my parts distributor, so I should have it finished tomorrow. When I got the LED from Radio Shack they said it should not need the 220 ohm resistor since the LED is rated for 12 volt use. Does this make sense or should I go back and get the resistor? It seems the pickup coils only put out a few milivolts. Will the ignitor be OK with a full 12 volts to trigger it?
Dennis L. Cote
I Hope to get this done soon so I can test the ignitors on the JY 12A I got last week. The trailing plugs look light chocolate brown while the leading pugs look black and fouled. I suspect it may have a bad leading ignitor
I can use the connector block from my parts distributor, so I should have it finished tomorrow. When I got the LED from Radio Shack they said it should not need the 220 ohm resistor since the LED is rated for 12 volt use. Does this make sense or should I go back and get the resistor? It seems the pickup coils only put out a few milivolts. Will the ignitor be OK with a full 12 volts to trigger it?
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I Hope to get this done soon so I can test the ignitors on the JY 12A I got last week. The trailing plugs look light chocolate brown while the leading pugs look black and fouled. I suspect it may have a bad leading ignitor
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According to the factory service manual, the "-" terminal is left open...that's what I did. I forgot to respond to your question about the connector...I did what you're planning on doing, I used one off my spare distributor.
Yes, I can believe there are 12V LEDs. Mine are all very old and are rated at a much lower voltage. I've been out of the electronics tinkering hobby for a while.
I plan on testing it with a 9V battery later on.
Rich
Yes, I can believe there are 12V LEDs. Mine are all very old and are rated at a much lower voltage. I've been out of the electronics tinkering hobby for a while.
I plan on testing it with a 9V battery later on.
Rich
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Originally Posted by wecycle
Rich:
Would this work using a 9v battery insted of the battery clips?
Seems like the signal from the pickup coil is very low V but the ignitor power may need 12V.
Did you tap the metal plate or use nuts underneath to attach it to the box and to attach the ignitor to the plate?
Is there a source for the small connectors on the back of the ignitor?
Dennis L. Cote
Would this work using a 9v battery insted of the battery clips?
Seems like the signal from the pickup coil is very low V but the ignitor power may need 12V.
Did you tap the metal plate or use nuts underneath to attach it to the box and to attach the ignitor to the plate?
Is there a source for the small connectors on the back of the ignitor?
Dennis L. Cote
I build golf clubs, and I used the epoxy that I use for glueing heads on shafts to epoxy nuts on the bottom side of thge plate.
Rich
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connector for ignitor
The remaining issue is how to attach the ignitor connector so it will stay in place while ignitors are switched for testing.The circuit works! I* used the aluminum top for the project box and ran three wires to a ring terminal that is captured under one of the corner screws for the aluminum top.
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Originally Posted by wecycle
The remaining issue is how to attach the ignitor connector so it will stay in place while ignitors are switched for testing.The circuit works! I* used the aluminum top for the project box and ran three wires to a ring terminal that is captured under one of the corner screws for the aluminum top.
Rich
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completed tester
64mgb
I finished assembling the tester! I used JB weld to attach the plug for the ignitor +- to the inside of the box. This is the little white plastic connector from a spare distributor. When I tried to use a 9V battery before it was fully assembled the LED would test OK but the ignitor woul just give a dim glow. Upon retesting with a 9V after complete assembly it seems to work fine with a 9V. If others can confirm this the tester could be made more portable and self contained by installing a 9V battery internally. Great project!! This should be archived (stickied?) for others. Cost was less than $10.
wecycle
I finished assembling the tester! I used JB weld to attach the plug for the ignitor +- to the inside of the box. This is the little white plastic connector from a spare distributor. When I tried to use a 9V battery before it was fully assembled the LED would test OK but the ignitor woul just give a dim glow. Upon retesting with a 9V after complete assembly it seems to work fine with a 9V. If others can confirm this the tester could be made more portable and self contained by installing a 9V battery internally. Great project!! This should be archived (stickied?) for others. Cost was less than $10.
wecycle
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Originally Posted by riceburner1r2001
where can u get 1 of these testers and how much
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My car has been blowing through ignitors for a little while now so I finally built one of these testers for myself. I took a "minimalist" approach. No project box, no fancy connectors, no LED test branch in the circuit, I can simply cross ground and the "C" connector to test.
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