i HATE the city of Ann Arbor, and my BITCH of a neighbor!
10-06-05 | 03:28 PM
#26
alright, i said i was THINKING about taking them to court (or maybe i forgot to put in the word thinking), not for a lawsuit, because i did break the law, i can't deny that. I'd take them to court because I asked her to wait 10 minutes until i got home so i could put the wheel back on and move the car, i'd pay the ticket and the tow truck. Because they didn't wait, my car was damaged.
We just moved in back in late August, and the neighbor lady refuses to meet us because we're just "more college ********". Her husband is pretty cool, but he explained to us that she'd rather call the cops than come and talk to anyone about any problems she has with them. In other words, she needs to grow some ***** and learn how to confront people.
the car was there for four hours tops when they went to tow it. I had already been told by my room mates that i'd get ticketed, and i was fine with that, but none of us thought that the tow company would attempt to tow the car without a flatbed, it's just unsafe and could damage my vehicle/other vehicles when (not if, when) it fell off of the tow truck (it almost fell once when they went to put it in the driveway). They didn't chain the right front suspension to the tow truck, they were going to just tow it with that part resting on a 4x4.
We just moved in back in late August, and the neighbor lady refuses to meet us because we're just "more college ********". Her husband is pretty cool, but he explained to us that she'd rather call the cops than come and talk to anyone about any problems she has with them. In other words, she needs to grow some ***** and learn how to confront people.
the car was there for four hours tops when they went to tow it. I had already been told by my room mates that i'd get ticketed, and i was fine with that, but none of us thought that the tow company would attempt to tow the car without a flatbed, it's just unsafe and could damage my vehicle/other vehicles when (not if, when) it fell off of the tow truck (it almost fell once when they went to put it in the driveway). They didn't chain the right front suspension to the tow truck, they were going to just tow it with that part resting on a 4x4.
10-06-05 | 03:29 PM
#27
Originally Posted by Kentetsu
Sorry to hear about your troubles man, but if you're going to live in the city you'll have to follow the rules. I never really understood the meaning of this until this past year, when I purchased my first home. Now that I actually own something tangible like this, I find that I really do care about the condition of my neighborhood. I bitch about people throwing trash around, exceeding the speed limit, barking neglected dogs, all that ****. And I'll tell you this much, I'm not investing 1400 dollars a month into this place to have the people living around me turn the neighborhood into a white trash zone. If my neighbor parked his car on the sidewalk to work on it, and ended up leaving it there for a bit too long (whatever the reason) I would probably be over there having a word with him. But I would be nice about it because I can remember that I might have done the same sort of thing not that long ago.
As far as sueing someone, I wish you luck but I think it will be a lost cause. Anything relating to the business of the city, and you might as well bend over and grab your ankles. I let my 240Z sit for a while waiting on repairs (years ago), and the registration ran out by the time I got it fixed because I forgot all about it (apparently). The day I got it running again, I got pulled over by the biggest ***** you've ever met. He was incredibly obnoxious and just an *** in general. It was obvious that this guy was doing this because he had spotted the expired plates earlier and had been waiting for me to drive it again. He just plain out didn't like me. Ticket issued, ticket paid, registration renewed, all within 24 hours. Well, the next day (after issue resolved) my neighbor is pounding on my door to tell me that they are towing my car. I go running out there and sure enough, there's the truck and that same fn cop sob. I'm like wtf, why are they towing it. The cop looks me straight in the eye and says "registration's expired, so it can't be parked on the street". Of course I tell him he'd better take another look, because it has been registered and the plate is right there in front of us with the proper sticker and everything. His response, "oh yeah, didn't see that. Well, since the truck is already here, we're still going to have to tow it unless you pay him the 45 dollar towing fee". Long story short, there was nothing I could do and had to pay it. Pursued it through Internal Affairs and they humored me while they gave me the runaround. Then politely put the boot to my **** and told me to beat it.
Anyway, your situation kinda struck close to home (hence the long reply) so I can understand your frustration. Accept the inevitable fact that they will make you follow the rules in the city, rather than waste your time trying to fight them over it. There are better ways to expend your energies. Good luck with it though, maybe if you've got that lawyer in your pocket you will be able to get something going.
As far as sueing someone, I wish you luck but I think it will be a lost cause. Anything relating to the business of the city, and you might as well bend over and grab your ankles. I let my 240Z sit for a while waiting on repairs (years ago), and the registration ran out by the time I got it fixed because I forgot all about it (apparently). The day I got it running again, I got pulled over by the biggest ***** you've ever met. He was incredibly obnoxious and just an *** in general. It was obvious that this guy was doing this because he had spotted the expired plates earlier and had been waiting for me to drive it again. He just plain out didn't like me. Ticket issued, ticket paid, registration renewed, all within 24 hours. Well, the next day (after issue resolved) my neighbor is pounding on my door to tell me that they are towing my car. I go running out there and sure enough, there's the truck and that same fn cop sob. I'm like wtf, why are they towing it. The cop looks me straight in the eye and says "registration's expired, so it can't be parked on the street". Of course I tell him he'd better take another look, because it has been registered and the plate is right there in front of us with the proper sticker and everything. His response, "oh yeah, didn't see that. Well, since the truck is already here, we're still going to have to tow it unless you pay him the 45 dollar towing fee". Long story short, there was nothing I could do and had to pay it. Pursued it through Internal Affairs and they humored me while they gave me the runaround. Then politely put the boot to my **** and told me to beat it.
Anyway, your situation kinda struck close to home (hence the long reply) so I can understand your frustration. Accept the inevitable fact that they will make you follow the rules in the city, rather than waste your time trying to fight them over it. There are better ways to expend your energies. Good luck with it though, maybe if you've got that lawyer in your pocket you will be able to get something going.
10-06-05 | 03:31 PM
#28
Originally Posted by whitey85mtu
oh, did i mention that they only had one of my wheels hooked to the tow truck? they were going to tow it WITHOUT BOTH WHEELS HOOKED IN! if they had done it and dropped my 7, both the city of Ann Arbor and the tow company would have been fucked, my brother in law works for the largest law firm on earth, and it would be a huge settlement for towing my car unsafely.
i think i'm done with my rant for now
i think i'm done with my rant for now
read my post for all those who have lost sympathy about me saying that i was going to sue them just because my brother in law is a lawyer. I said that if they had towed it and dropped my 7 i would have taken them to court, not that i was going to take them to court because i got a ticket.
10-06-05 | 06:29 PM
#30
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Originally Posted by whitey85mtu
I would have been fine with moving it if she had just come over and asked me to, or told me that it bothered her. read my post above.
Well, tell her that, and say that she now has a next door enemy because she was too shy to talk about her concern about your car before calling the cops.
10-06-05 | 06:57 PM
#31
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From: Pittsburgh/Johnstown, PA
Damn Liberals. I'll never live in the city because they rule them. With all their laws they make law abiding good people into criminals but stand up for the real criminals calling them "victims".
10-06-05 | 07:17 PM
#32
Originally Posted by BlastinSideways12A
Damn Liberals. I'll never live in the city because they rule them. With all their laws they make law abiding good people into criminals but stand up for the real criminals calling them "victims".
lol, i'm a liberal, but the "liberals" in ann arbor are extremists to me.
10-06-05 | 08:51 PM
#33
Yep, Ann Arbor is 6 sq. miles surrounded by reality. Good art shows though... and what's that football team??? (I'm a useless nut... a Buckeye) Anyway the neighbors yard might need some Roundup in various places or even more stealth, fertilizer. How about a big rounded off triangle? Like a rotor! She's never seen one, wouldn't know what it is.
I've got the city of St Pete Bch after me for an unlicensed vehicle on my property, I have a 323GTX waiting its turn in the shop and $12,000 a year in property taxes says I'm going to keep it here! I just bought a "trailer"for $50 made out of old bedframes or something, bought a tag for it, put the car on it, neighbors and city hate it but its LEGAL! How's that for a big middle finger.
I've got the city of St Pete Bch after me for an unlicensed vehicle on my property, I have a 323GTX waiting its turn in the shop and $12,000 a year in property taxes says I'm going to keep it here! I just bought a "trailer"for $50 made out of old bedframes or something, bought a tag for it, put the car on it, neighbors and city hate it but its LEGAL! How's that for a big middle finger.
10-06-05 | 08:54 PM
#34
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you do know that as long as you see the meter maid writing a ticket you have the right to get in your car and drive away...as long as they havn't placed it on your window your golden...its the truth check it out...as per taking them to court I'd do it...tow truck drivers shouldn't be allowed to do some of the **** that they do...and its because no one says anything that they can get away with it...people have this common misconception that because their towing your car that their not responsible...but when they tow it do you sign any form saying you negate them from all damages...I had my dodge 2500 towed once and when they were chaining it down they put the chains in the wrong spot so when they were unloading it the chain came flying and put this huge *** dent in my box and front fender...oh boy I almost lost it...my truck is my second pride and joy...I pride myself on the condition of it...what makes it worse is I just had all the body work done and a $1500 paint job put on...oh I was just boiling over...I was like what the hell is that when I saw it...they were like those were already there...I was like...like hell they were I just got it fixed and painted yesterday...they were like well you can't prove it was us...I was super pissed...take their asses to court is all I can say...thats what I wish I had done...but I damaged their reputation...because my dad knows a **** load of people who own dozens of trucks that usually use their towing service but now none of them do...and thats more $$ out of their pocket that a law suit...man was I pissed...take them to court maybe you can even get enough for a fresh professional paint job!!
10-06-05 | 09:10 PM
#35
Originally Posted by jgrewe
Yep, Ann Arbor is 6 sq. miles surrounded by reality. Good art shows though... and what's that football team??? (I'm a useless nut... a Buckeye) Anyway the neighbors yard might need some Roundup in various places or even more stealth, fertilizer. How about a big rounded off triangle? Like a rotor! She's never seen one, wouldn't know what it is.
I've got the city of St Pete Bch after me for an unlicensed vehicle on my property, I have a 323GTX waiting its turn in the shop and $12,000 a year in property taxes says I'm going to keep it here! I just bought a "trailer"for $50 made out of old bedframes or something, bought a tag for it, put the car on it, neighbors and city hate it but its LEGAL! How's that for a big middle finger.
I've got the city of St Pete Bch after me for an unlicensed vehicle on my property, I have a 323GTX waiting its turn in the shop and $12,000 a year in property taxes says I'm going to keep it here! I just bought a "trailer"for $50 made out of old bedframes or something, bought a tag for it, put the car on it, neighbors and city hate it but its LEGAL! How's that for a big middle finger.
generally i'm not a football fan, but if people ask me who i like, i'm a buckeye fan also. the fertalizer season is pretty much over up here, but my little bro works for a hardware store, so i have the hookup all year. if i decide to do the fertalizer, i'll post some pics.
10-06-05 | 09:14 PM
#36
Originally Posted by Lee Lyons
you do know that as long as you see the meter maid writing a ticket you have the right to get in your car and drive away...as long as they havn't placed it on your window your golden...its the truth check it out...as per taking them to court I'd do it...tow truck drivers shouldn't be allowed to do some of the **** that they do...and its because no one says anything that they can get away with it...people have this common misconception that because their towing your car that their not responsible...but when they tow it do you sign any form saying you negate them from all damages...I had my dodge 2500 towed once and when they were chaining it down they put the chains in the wrong spot so when they were unloading it the chain came flying and put this huge *** dent in my box and front fender...oh boy I almost lost it...my truck is my second pride and joy...I pride myself on the condition of it...what makes it worse is I just had all the body work done and a $1500 paint job put on...oh I was just boiling over...I was like what the hell is that when I saw it...they were like those were already there...I was like...like hell they were I just got it fixed and painted yesterday...they were like well you can't prove it was us...I was super pissed...take their asses to court is all I can say...thats what I wish I had done...but I damaged their reputation...because my dad knows a **** load of people who own dozens of trucks that usually use their towing service but now none of them do...and thats more $$ out of their pocket that a law suit...man was I pissed...take them to court maybe you can even get enough for a fresh professional paint job!!
i finished up the brake job today, fixed the brake dust shield, and inspected the oil cooler. Fixing the brake dust shield involved removing it completely. the oil cooler is fine, and i bent the undertray back (for the most part) by hand by just pushing it down.
10-06-05 | 09:37 PM
#37
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From: Alabama
Originally Posted by jgrewe
Yep, Ann Arbor is 6 sq. miles surrounded by reality. Good art shows though... and what's that football team??? (I'm a useless nut... a Buckeye) Anyway the neighbors yard might need some Roundup in various places or even more stealth, fertilizer. How about a big rounded off triangle? Like a rotor! She's never seen one, wouldn't know what it is.
I've got the city of St Pete Bch after me for an unlicensed vehicle on my property, I have a 323GTX waiting its turn in the shop and $12,000 a year in property taxes says I'm going to keep it here! I just bought a "trailer"for $50 made out of old bedframes or something, bought a tag for it, put the car on it, neighbors and city hate it but its LEGAL! How's that for a big middle finger.
I've got the city of St Pete Bch after me for an unlicensed vehicle on my property, I have a 323GTX waiting its turn in the shop and $12,000 a year in property taxes says I'm going to keep it here! I just bought a "trailer"for $50 made out of old bedframes or something, bought a tag for it, put the car on it, neighbors and city hate it but its LEGAL! How's that for a big middle finger.
But if its on your property on a trailer..its LEGAL?
What kinda BS is that! Jesus...i can understand if you had a yard full of broke down POS cars...but one car. Damn! Id be movin.
10-06-05 | 09:54 PM
#38
Yes, whatever is touching the ground has to be tagged. Since a trailer doesn't require insurance to get a tag--- bingo---- all of a sudden its a cheap trailer tag instead of tag plus insurance for a car. Code inforcer guy knew he was screwed and now it looks worse than before, double bonus! Don't try these kinds of stunts without a helmet kids!
10-06-05 | 10:01 PM
#39
1983 GSL, 1987 323 "GX"
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From: Las Cruces, NM
In Las Cruces here, they're legal as long as they're not in clear view of the street. I just happen to have a backyard with an alley leading to it (dirt paved, just big enough to fit a vehicle through). It's not technically a street, so if we can cram cars back there in our back yards, they're legal. That was handy for when my RX7 was non-running (it still isn't registered! I share its plate with my 323, because they are both classified as "WHT MZD" hatchbacks. Like a NORMAL cop is going to know the difference between the 323 and the RX7 
I'm also smart enough to have greased over the etched vin, and swap the two metal tags when I drive one or the other (the 323 has been down for a month, so the RX7 has it easy)
I'm also smart enough to have greased over the etched vin, and swap the two metal tags when I drive one or the other (the 323 has been down for a month, so the RX7 has it easy)
10-07-05 | 01:20 AM
#41
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Once at work, I shipped a color TV to a manager that I hated. Everyone wonderred what impropietary this manager did to get a color TV.
Once at work, I shipped a color TV to a manager that I hated. Everyone wonderred what impropietary this manager did to get a color TV.
10-07-05 | 05:29 AM
#42
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From: Alabama
Originally Posted by jays83gsl
In Las Cruces here, they're legal as long as they're not in clear view of the street. I just happen to have a backyard with an alley leading to it (dirt paved, just big enough to fit a vehicle through). It's not technically a street, so if we can cram cars back there in our back yards, they're legal. That was handy for when my RX7 was non-running (it still isn't registered! I share its plate with my 323, because they are both classified as "WHT MZD" hatchbacks. Like a NORMAL cop is going to know the difference between the 323 and the RX7
I'm also smart enough to have greased over the etched vin, and swap the two metal tags when I drive one or the other (the 323 has been down for a month, so the RX7 has it easy)
I'm also smart enough to have greased over the etched vin, and swap the two metal tags when I drive one or the other (the 323 has been down for a month, so the RX7 has it easy)
Thats crazy though...Im glad I live in AL...only a few citys have ordinances like that. Im sorry..but I pay property tax..and I own my land..im gonna park whatever I want to wherever I want to. I agree that a yard full of broken down cars is an eyesore and something should be done about it, But 1 car is not hurting anyone.
10-07-05 | 10:55 AM
#43
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Originally Posted by whitey85mtu
lol, i'm a liberal, but the "liberals" in ann arbor are extremists to me.
Many people who consider themselves liberals are actually libertarians which are completely different. The political spectrum isn't as simple as left-right but don't expect the public schools to teach that.
Here is a little quiz that can tell you where you stand politically. There is one that is setup the same but with more questions but I can't remember the site.
http://www.self-gov.org/quiz.html
Anyway, sorry if I got a little off topic but I would do whatever I could to get money back. You'll never get money from the city because 99.9% of those in government on both sides of the aisle care primarily about protecting the government which is why it keeps getting bigger. The tow truck company and/or driver is your best bet to get your money back.
10-09-05 | 02:16 PM
#46
Originally Posted by SGesel
I heard sugar and gas tanks don't mix too well....... she calls the cops on you, now she rides the bus to work...............
sugar is o.k., a small paper bag wadded up in her gas filler tube is better. turns to pulp when gas hits it, and she has to change gas tanks before she can stop changing fuel filters. or a quart of muratic acid...it'll eat everything metal that contacts the fuel system (fuel pump, lines, tank, heads, valves, cylinders, pistons, etc. etc. etc.). or maybe mothballs, a guy i used to work with competed in antique tractor pulls, and to get more power, they added mothballs to their gas. then again, the mixture burns really hot, and he had to re-build his engine about once a year.
10-09-05 | 02:18 PM
#47
Originally Posted by BlastinSideways12A
If you believe in personal property rights and don't believe that unelected government beurocrats should control your life through pointless rules and regulations you don't sound too liberal to me.
Many people who consider themselves liberals are actually libertarians which are completely different. The political spectrum isn't as simple as left-right but don't expect the public schools to teach that.
Here is a little quiz that can tell you where you stand politically. There is one that is setup the same but with more questions but I can't remember the site.
http://www.self-gov.org/quiz.html
Anyway, sorry if I got a little off topic but I would do whatever I could to get money back. You'll never get money from the city because 99.9% of those in government on both sides of the aisle care primarily about protecting the government which is why it keeps getting bigger. The tow truck company and/or driver is your best bet to get your money back.
Many people who consider themselves liberals are actually libertarians which are completely different. The political spectrum isn't as simple as left-right but don't expect the public schools to teach that.
Here is a little quiz that can tell you where you stand politically. There is one that is setup the same but with more questions but I can't remember the site.
http://www.self-gov.org/quiz.html
Anyway, sorry if I got a little off topic but I would do whatever I could to get money back. You'll never get money from the city because 99.9% of those in government on both sides of the aisle care primarily about protecting the government which is why it keeps getting bigger. The tow truck company and/or driver is your best bet to get your money back.
10-09-05 | 04:20 PM
#48
My wife bought me 2 RX-7s
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From: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
I honestly have no sympathy for you whatsoever.
Leaving a car partially disasemmbled on a public road is a big no-no. You're lucky you got back in time to stop the towing company from taking your car.
Leaving a car partially disasemmbled on a public road is a big no-no. You're lucky you got back in time to stop the towing company from taking your car.
