MountainDew67

Ok, im gonna start off by saying that I have used the search engine for 4 days because all my questions are in the search, but, it still wont start.....


Saturday I wanted to address an oil leak behind the distributor, so I pulled the distributor without looking at rotor position etc. So I saw where my oil leak was, went to put in distributor and it started,sounded funny, so I test drove it, it popped and backfired. It then occured to me that I didnt check rotor position before I took out the distributor. So then I thought, worse case scenerio, I have to rotate the distributor one tooth at a time till it runs perfect.

Sunday didnt really do much, got on here and looked at what I need to do to put distributor back in. Copied and pasted quite a few things from different people,explaining things in different ways.

Monday I played with the distributor like I was told, get the yellow mark on pulley to be ligned up with the pointer, drop dist. back in pointing toward L1..that didnt work, so I put it 180 out, that didnt work, so I decided to start turning the dist. a tooth at a time, that got it to run funky again, but nothing set in stone. So I decided that before I go any further im gonna fix the oil leak and do everything else tuesday, so now my oil leak is fixed.

Tuesday, I wake up, to start the car, nothing happens, I pump the gas a couple times, nothing, so another couple times nothing....so I stop cranking, tried cranking again..nothing....pumped it, nothing. So now my thoughts are....I FLOODED the engine. So being that the car started the day before on wrong dist. gear tooth, I tried moving dist. again and again...nothing. Finnally I yanked the plugs, and there wet of gas, so I brakeleen them, air them out really good, install,still I get nothing. So I come back onto the computer and start reading about flooding....I took the wire off the trailing, foot down, cranked for 25 seconds. put wire back on..nothing. So I decided to yank the plugs again, then I turned the motor over with no plugs in it for about 25 seconds.the plugs were still fairly dry, not real wet at all, so I did the ATF tranny fluid in the spark plug holes and tightened everything up, nothing. So then I went back and started playing with distributor again. Still nothing on any tooth......


Ok so what its came down to is this....I know the dimple on the dist gear, but I dont see an arrow on the housing anywhere. Also, the rotor has the arrow on it, that is not inline with the dimple.....is this a problem? Does that mean the rotor is on wrong? Tomorrow's project is to make sure my coils have fire before I start doing anything, gotta get rid of that idea in my head, as they should be just fine. My next thing to do is put back in the plugs, I took them out tonight, stuffed the plug holes and put the plugs themselves in the garage to dry out. I also started the motor with no plugs in it again to make sure the fuel is blown out. Where did I screw up (besides not paying attension to the dist direction on saturday) and what are my options. I forsee new plugs being mentioned, how likely is it that the plugs are no good. I wire brushed them, brakeleened them and blew them out pretty darn good. One other thing, my neighbor came over, we put a little thing on the plug and then put the plug wire to the thing and cranked the motor over and the device lit up showing there was spark going to the T1 plug, I never did try the other wires.

Im gonna end this there and start replying to questions asked thay I may have missed or not thought of...thanks guys

12a rotary 67 vw bug

BMS2004

there is a keyway on the dist gear, and a dimple on the dist shaft housing, align those up with yellow mark on pulley. slip it in. the arrow on the rotor should be facing directly towards the front of the engine. if still no luck roll the engine over one more time and line the yellow mark up again. same steps as before. Just make sure the arrow on the rotor is facing forward, that should get ya somewhere.

Ron

BTW some say the timing can't be 180degrees out but with my experience it can be so just try that and it should be pretty close for starts.

mwatson184

Rotate the motor til the yellow dot lines up with the pointer. Install the dizzy with the rotor pointer pointing directly back towards the firewall, i'm sure sombebody will have a pic. Buy new plugs, (or worst case brush off the old ones again), while the plugs are out let the starter turn the motor over for 10 seconds. Reinstall the plugs and start her up.

I've never set my dizzy w/ the whole dimple thing. Pointer on dizzy points toward firewall has always done it for me.

-Marques

Just realized, if the dizzy is in your bug, point the arrow on the rotor toward the oil filter.

MountainDew67

I was reading posts that said to point the arrow on rotor to the L1 position, yellow mark aligned with the pointer, drop it in. If it didnt work, to turn it 180(which would be now facing the front of motor) and that didnt work. Another key point is that I cant get it to start at all. before my flooding thing...it would star on every other tooth I tried normally, just ran rough and back fired. But theres nothing today...

MountainDew67

watson...I have a remote oil filter....lol. So I guess Im still not sure where your saying to point it. But remember, I have tried to start the car in all rotor positions. But I dont understand, theres like 16 slots on dist gear, and when I look inside the housing, theres like 6-8 slots on that gear. So maybe im on the wrong tooth on the dist gear.... I have done the no plugs in the motor,turn it over for 25 seconds twice...with nothing, but im leaning toward setting that dist. first, but if its still flooded, then it still wont tell me anything. lol...... Im in the double F*&#ed zone, because Ill never know if its unflooded, or not. I did brush off the old plugs very well.....

BMS2004

what we mean is the pointer will be parrallel with tension bolts on the engine, if ya follow me. with the pointer at the yellow mark

MountainDew67

bump

H4Inf

you're not out of gas are ya ? :P

MountainDew67

Nah, shes still squirtin pretty heavy and fast down the throat of the carb. I did think about that half way through working on it today