n0ferz

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Hey guys will this starter be useful to do a compression test at least to a 85' 12a engine? Thanks.

GSL-SE Starter

bugman1973

if you want to know if it will start it yes but if you are just using it for a compression test that i cant answer but it should work. it is basically the same as the one used on the 12a's

BlackWorksInc

Well for your 85 it should work, but I got a replacement starter for my 82 from a GSL-LE and it ended up being the wrong fit...

As for a compression test... in theory it should work, if all else fails you can do a static compression test using a breaker bar or long wrench to turn the shaft...

teddyrx2

iTrader: (33)

all the first gen starters are the same i have used them andinterchanged them back and forth without problem

BlackWorksInc

Are you sure? because the starter I used had a shorter bell over the pinion gear, the one I pulled out of the 1985 GSL-LE.

It fit to the tranny almost the same, but the drive pinion gear and little bell housing was longer than my tranny would allow.

teddyrx2

iTrader: (33)

was it from a second gen...its weird cause i have never had the problem now if he/she use the turbo II starter it won't work...

teddyrx2

iTrader: (33)

Wow i don't' know i never had that problem...autozone has the years listed as all the same...with the exception of it being 12a or 13b...i might be wrong though...but if im wrong please someone help me out and correct me...

BlackWorksInc

Well I know the one I tried to replace it with was a GSL-LE one... as for the one I used, I have no clue.

My step-dad owned the car before I took her from her rotting little corner. He said that an aviation guy tried to sell it to him with a shaky tranny and part of the sale was that it got rebuilt... Otherwise I think its the stock tranny but I could be wrong?

teddyrx2

iTrader: (33)

did you take the gsl-se starter to put into a 12a cause check this out...i have used gsl-se tranny's on 12a motors and used 12a starters...have used 12a tranny's on 13b blocks with gsl-se starters with no problem...

BlackWorksInc

Yeah my engine is a 12A, The transmission seems to be the stock 5 speed... I don't know if it was swapped out.

Anyone know of why that would be? I would take the starter out and take a picture, but Its such a pain and I don't know when I will have the time to do it?

djessence

man taking the starter out is like 2 bolts and 3 connectors....Im pretty sure all N/a starters should work swappably where as the turbo might have diff tooth pattern (cant think of better word)

n0ferz

iTrader: (4)

thanks for all the inputs guys, I will buy this starter. What I really want is to do a compression test to the engine thats laying on the ground.

I will need to buy a tranny since the engine doesn't have one.

Will a turbo II tranny fit on a 12a engine???


Thanks.

Midwest 7's

iTrader: (4)

i have also interchanged starters and never had a problem.

teddyrx2

iTrader: (33)

no it will not work...it will bolt up but will not work...the starters are different

drifted

I ve had couple starters side by side and they all had different teeth (geat ratios). On another hand they worked fine.

I have a question. one someone that i knew had a very quick turning started. Was it from t2 motor.. or was it just wired differently?

projecktecks

The starters are the same from a 12A to a 13B GSL-SE, the only thing that ive seen changes things is a starter from automatic to a manual tranny!

n0ferz

iTrader: (4)

so there is no doubt that I can basically do a compression test with this starter on the 12a engine even though I get another tranny later in the future to use with the engine? Thanks.

BlackWorksInc

Sun-of-a-&!%*@ That may be why that GSL-LE starter didn't fit my 82... I think it was from an auto tranny... which explains why it didn't fit.

Because my 82 Manual has a completely steel colored case with no paint on it and a reddish brown stator assembly in the middle of the case.

teddyrx2

iTrader: (33)

see i knew i was right...i should never doubt myself ...but it's all good...i know the auto's are different for sure...thanks for the info bro...

gsl-se addict

iTrader: (3)

Umm... All GSL-SEs were manual. All of the NA starters should swap (12A/13B), except for probably the RENESIS. But, yes, the auto/manual starters are different. the autos are the gear reduction type, the manual starters are direct drive. The SE starter will be fine assuming you have a 12A or N/A 13B tranny to mount it to. I've swapped starters between an '80, an '82, and my '84 GSL-SE. No problems at all.

BlackWorksInc

XD I dunno what car it was I may have mistaken it at the pick-n-pull long time ago... but it must have been for an auto because I still have a 12A NA... Thanks for the help, I will keep that in mind next time I am hunting parts.

justint5387

iTrader: (1)

I had a 82 starter that didn't fit the 84.

bliffle

Except for the auto-transmission starters which have a different tooth count.

teddyrx2

iTrader: (33)

oh yeah i know the auto tranny starters are different