Tech_Greek

I tried your method, except I couldnt reach the coil nearest the battery so I used the other spad on the other coil and she fired right up, still a lot of smoke (from I assume no other coil now).

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gsl-se addict

iTrader: (3)

Someone must have changed the connector at some point. It should have a YG wire and a black wire conected to the same point. If someone separated the wires (one to the leading, one to the trailing) this could cause problems. Either unplug one or better yet connect them to the same point (both on trailing (-)).

So is it so the YG wire goes to one (-) coil and a black goes to the other?

If your tach is jumping around when at a steady RPM, this usually indicates a problem with the trailing igniter. However, if those wires with the spade connectors are messed up, this would influnce the tach as well.

Tech_Greek

Ok,

Wait (it's blue not black, just grease was on it!);

F A B

F = Front Of Car
A = First Coil
B = Second Coil

A has a yellow/black going to the right hand side of the coil and a blue spade, two wires going into the spade.

B has a yellow black going to the right hand side of the coil and a one wire going into a WHITE spade.

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gsl-se addict

iTrader: (3)

That sounds right. The blue spade should have a black wire and a yellow wire with a green stripe in it. I am not sure about the white spade. What color wire is it? Do you have a shift light, aftermarket tach, or anything like that? If it is something aftremarket, you can just switch the spade around. See if that helps the starting situation. That blue spade send the RPM signal to the ECU to tell the injectors when to fire. So if the trailing ignition is on the fritz, it will effect the fuel supply as well.

Tech_Greek

Well,

I tried hooking both spades up to coil B and it made a nice smoke show of oil smoke (:P), and so I hooked them back up reguarly and it started right up with hardly any smoke.

The coils are by Crane Cams (PS20 Blaster Coils)

http://www.cranecams.com/index.php?s...&lvl=4&prt=162

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Tech_Greek

Apparently we did something right;

Smoke barely came out for two starts, one cold, one hot, had no problems idiling like I usually do but it still had a little bit of smoke which is normal, but I want to go ahead and get a new o2 sensor since the one on my exhaust has NEVER been changed at the moment.

Should I just wait until I get a racing beat system?

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Tech_Greek

Nope,

Take that back, went to start it up awalago and no go, I had to floor it to get it started again because it would simply just sit there and spin and not fire when I had the key held down.

It flooded, not coolant, but my friend behind me in his jeep with no doors or anything was like trying to back out over my fence it was so bad.

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thekyl

I would almost bet its either your ECU igniters or the injectors still something is not right in the ignition or fuel system. I suspect my friends GSL-SE has the exact same problem his is doing the exact same thing. we are currently try to replace the ignitors and the coils we will let ya know if its fixes the problem.

Tech_Greek

The coils have been replaced on mine, where are the ignitors located at?

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Tech_Greek

Well ******* A,

The son of a bitch left me stranded in the walmart parking lot for like 5 minutes while it just sat there and spun, it would fire for a second, then it wouldnt, it would fire and ALMOST catch then it would keep spinning.

This is really getting the best of me, I've had nothing but problems with the car, the flywheels missing a peice because when It goes to start it'll grind sometimes, the starters new. The brakes are squeaking (yes, the wheel bearings have been replaced), the rear end grenaded on me...it's a ******* curse that I'm ready to take a ******* hammer to the car with.

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thekyl

Damn sounds like you have had tons of problems on the GSL-SE there on the distrubuter. Yea you know I have had my 7 for a little over 4.5 years now and she ran when I parked her and she still had tons and tons of problems. All use cars especially cars like the first gens that are approaching 25+ years old and most are still on all the stock stuff. My car needs a new rearend, needs new front fender, new front bumper, a paint job, lots of other minor body work, rear tail lights could use replaced, the center section between the tail lights is broken, I have a few electrical problems, my stupid clutch keeps leaking in the cab even though I have replaced the master cyclinder the slave cyclinder and the damn pedel itself and still leakes, not to mention the engine problems. So you see I really under stand how ya feel my buddy is in the same spot he is 19 first car its old has tons of miles on it and has lots of problems but its in really really good shape. I felt the same whay when I got my 7 but now that I'm older and understand a little bit more how you really need to see it is love the car you have and accept that you will probably have to rebuild your engine in the near future.

Tech_Greek

Well,

I got pissed off when I got home and ripped the ignition peice off of the spare steering column we had left, which there was a green/orange wire behind the shaft that I didnt see that unsoldered it self, it's just for the buzer inside the car to let you know that the car's key is in or out.

So, now I don't have to hold down the black peice to start my car anymore. I changed the spark plugs out thinking that would fix it, nope, just sat there spinning still, usually that fixs it.

I don't understand why the car's only got 120k miles on it and it's having so many problems, my thunderbird's got over 200k on the original engine and it starts up every time without a problem :|, just waiting on the harness to get here to see if that fixed my trany swap issue so I can use it as a daily driver and fix my rx7 up peice by peice on the side.

I'm 17, this is the third car I've bought, I had a 1985 Toyota MR2 (N/A) and built it up but it was stolen and then I started on my Thunderbird which the clutches burnt up, decided to upgrade the tranny and so in the process I saw that the harness was all messed up and needed a new one (that's why I'm not driving it) so now I'm trying to drive to work every day in the RX7 and I'm royally FUCKED if I can't get it to start tomorrow for work.

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thekyl

hehe well that sounds about right I bought my car with 114k on her and now she has just over 180K and she is pretty much going down hill. For the first 3 years I owned the car I beat the **** out of it because it was my first car and I had to pay for everything I broke on it so I wasnt too hard ... but now that me and my wife have 2 cars I beat the crap out of it that last year or so and now it's got all sort's of problems the more and more I think about it I wish I would have been nicer to my car and taken better care of it then I probably wouldnt have so much crap that I have to fix. but hey that is the best part about having a car that you can work on you get to put your own sweat and hard work into it and when its the sexiest thing on the road you can tell people yeap I built that ...... GOD DAMN cant waite going to beat on Betty now

Tech_Greek

Well,

Some days I beat on mine, some days I just cruise, just depends on my mood, the majority of the **** on my car has been changed out now, just the engine is OEM. Everyone that has seen my car thinks its a great condition first gen (minus the paint job that needs to be repainted).

The batterys dead right now, but I changed the cap back to the old one and it seems to be doing a lot better, just dead battery.

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Tech_Greek

Alright,

Good news folks (while my dad hunts these boards about HIS rx7, not mine and follows my every posts...*WAVES* HEY DAD). He's having problems with his GSL that one coil fires randomly and only works sometimes (tried three different coils and igniters, not the problem, timings set too).

The Thunderbird IS working so the RX7 can have some down time as I now have a good daily driver, AND I might be getting a job at Geek Squad in Best Buy, whom make more than anyone in the store (a lot better than $6/hr).

My plans, I figure I'll buy a new radiator, and replace the hoses while it's down...where do I dump the coolant at? Is it really that important that I take it to a safe site or can I just sort of throw it somewhere? I'm going to see if I can find some new injectors and get a new clutch, flywheel, paint job, and exhaust.

The timings right on the money, it used to hold steady at 2,100 RPM when starting until the engine warms up, not anymore it’ll die if I don’t hold the gas down. When it does warm up though it purs like it should and doesn’t buck and what not. I do need to adjust the TPS properly.

It really doesn’t smoke anymore except for fuel burning off on start; I guess the timing was just so off that something wasn’t right. It still sits there and spins and spins and it almost fires then goes back to spinning then it fires then it goes back to spinning then it’ll eventually start up.

The coils were changed back to stock, didn’t solve anything and I switched the ignitors around and I got the same reaction to starting so they aren’t the problem. Maybe the spark plugs need to be replaced after being flooded so many times?

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Rotor13B

Which spark plug are you using? You would be surprised on how much of a difference new plugs make in our cars. I went from a set of plugs that I "thought" were good to a new set plugs and it was night and day difference. I had used a set of bur8/9eq's that at first worked out just fine. After awhile of using them however, It got harder and harder to start my car. I mean it got to the point that if the planets wern't in alignment and God was'nt smiling down on you it wasn't gonna start. That's what I get for not searching harder for the br7/9eq14's I guess. Btw, these are in a gsl-se engine.

Tech_Greek

I'm using BR9EQ's...