Gauging interest: Group buy - Nikki Nitrous Oxide Plate
#1
Gauging interest: Group buy - Nikki Nitrous Oxide Plate
I put this here mainly because it is only for the stock intake manifold setup. I will also crosspost this to the for sale section.
Long story short, I ran into a guy at the dragstrip who made this for a customer that never came to pick it up. He had ~350 bucks into it and sold it to me for a decent price. I explained to him when I bought it that I thought there would be more interest in this product since lately there has been a few questions about installing nitrous and being able to have a plate that simply bolts on would be much cheaper and easier to install compared to a fogger system.
He said that if he had 10 people completely interested and absolutely ready to buy that he could do 230 shipped (I will check what it would be for Canada). This is ONLY for the plate itself, no jets. Jets would come with a plate system that could easily be purchased from Ebay for ~350 shipped (US prices). That is brand new prices, you could easily piece it together yourself or buy a used kit for cheaper. I personally plan on using this for the strip on an occasional basis and plan on using a 50 shot and possibly bumping up to 75 down the road.
If you PM me or post any item specific question, I will relay them to him and once I get an answer I will reply with what he says.
Take a look at the pic and tell me what you think. I can get better pics soon.
Long story short, I ran into a guy at the dragstrip who made this for a customer that never came to pick it up. He had ~350 bucks into it and sold it to me for a decent price. I explained to him when I bought it that I thought there would be more interest in this product since lately there has been a few questions about installing nitrous and being able to have a plate that simply bolts on would be much cheaper and easier to install compared to a fogger system.
He said that if he had 10 people completely interested and absolutely ready to buy that he could do 230 shipped (I will check what it would be for Canada). This is ONLY for the plate itself, no jets. Jets would come with a plate system that could easily be purchased from Ebay for ~350 shipped (US prices). That is brand new prices, you could easily piece it together yourself or buy a used kit for cheaper. I personally plan on using this for the strip on an occasional basis and plan on using a 50 shot and possibly bumping up to 75 down the road.
If you PM me or post any item specific question, I will relay them to him and once I get an answer I will reply with what he says.
Take a look at the pic and tell me what you think. I can get better pics soon.
#3
Hmm nice idea, but! I honestly don't like it, and I'll tell you why. (since I'm a nice guy)
-Spraybars.
-Not compatible with SA intake manifold.
-Not compatible with port matched intake manifolds.
-Spraybars.
-Metal (conducts heat)
Nitrous Express custom makes spraybarless plates for $250 flat fee. Also not made of metal so it won't conduct heat.
Now if we could work on the design and get it to $150 + shipping then I would be an advocate of it.
EDIT: After thinking about it here is what I would ideally like to see in a design.
-2 vacuum ports added, or at least one for vacuum advance. The second would be for crankcase venting purposes.
-Not made of metal
-Possible dual stage?
-Spraybars.
-Not compatible with SA intake manifold.
-Not compatible with port matched intake manifolds.
-Spraybars.
-Metal (conducts heat)
Nitrous Express custom makes spraybarless plates for $250 flat fee. Also not made of metal so it won't conduct heat.
Now if we could work on the design and get it to $150 + shipping then I would be an advocate of it.
EDIT: After thinking about it here is what I would ideally like to see in a design.
-2 vacuum ports added, or at least one for vacuum advance. The second would be for crankcase venting purposes.
-Not made of metal
-Possible dual stage?
Last edited by Tranquil; 07-12-06 at 05:31 PM.
#4
Originally Posted by 1revnrex
You've gotta be shittin me right? 230 shipped? I could make the same thing in my garage for 25 dollars in material and an hour of my time.
Tranquil - I planned on putting the plate above the phenolic spacer which would block a decent amount of heat.
Last edited by IanS; 07-13-06 at 06:36 AM.
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Ian has put some work into this, but i agree spraybars no. ian what i was talking about when you asked me about it is a kinda a fuel injector type thing basicly you have the block between the carb and the intake and there are what they call nozels that just screw into a tapped hole but that at like a 45 or 60 degree angle and its much safer and is cleaner looking. and the metal thing is way off aluminium does not heat like steal+25 degree cold compressed n2o is not gunna be affected my 100 degrees as it zooming by.
good work so far man.
ill be more then willing to help you make one with injectors, remember i have accsess to a cnc also.
good work so far man.
ill be more then willing to help you make one with injectors, remember i have accsess to a cnc also.
#6
So, basically use fogger nozzles hooked onto the plate? Obviously a little more complex.
Edit: Also, I am not the one setting the price.
Also on a further note, it fits fine on a port matched intake mani as I have one and I dont see what the problem is as the "port matching" part would be where the mani connects to the motor, not the carb. Maybe I am not understanding what you mean... I will check fitment on an SA intake mani as I have one.
Edit: Also, I am not the one setting the price.
Also on a further note, it fits fine on a port matched intake mani as I have one and I dont see what the problem is as the "port matching" part would be where the mani connects to the motor, not the carb. Maybe I am not understanding what you mean... I will check fitment on an SA intake mani as I have one.
Last edited by IanS; 07-13-06 at 06:48 AM.
#7
I checked Ebay and all the nitrous kits I see that are built for carbs (obviously for holley carbs) have spraybars. If its good enough for a holley, why is it not good enough for a nikki?
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#8
Originally Posted by IanS
I checked Ebay and all the nitrous kits I see that are built for carbs (obviously for holley carbs) have spraybars. If its good enough for a holley, why is it not good enough for a nikki?
#9
Originally Posted by IanS
a plate that simply bolts on would be much cheaper and easier to install compared to a fogger system.
Spray bars are just old school. Nothing really wrong with them, it's just that they've been improved upon over the last couple of years. If you had the choice between a bar running through your intake and not having one, for esentially the same money. why not go with the latter?
You're guy's price seems a little high for what you're getting.
I think a group buy from nitrous express would be more apealing to everyone. It would fetch you a product from a reputable company that would likely offer a waranty and tech support when setting up the rest of the system.
#10
I have never had any problems with spraybars in the past, nor have I had any issues with nozzles. However, my plate with spraybars "hit" much harder and proved to be more consistent than my nozzle setup.
Mike
Mike
#11
Originally Posted by IanS
I put this here mainly because it is only for the stock intake manifold setup. I will also crosspost this to the for sale section.
Sent you a PM.
-billy
#13
Spraybars are junk period. I mean who here would honestly pay 230 bucks for that? There is little to no skill involved in taking a piece of aluminum and drilling 4 holes in with a spray bar running across the secondarys. Its not like hes having to create a new program to run in his state of the art CNC machine, I would imagine its being done with a mill or possibly even a drill press without looking at it in my hands. Flame me if ya want because Im a "noob" but Ive been on other forums for a long time and been playin with motors since I was a kid. If you pay 230 bucks for that ask for a jar of Vaseline too cuz yer gettin....
-Shawn
-Shawn
#15
I see what you mean about the airflow.
I already purchased the item in the pic. I paid 200 for it and still need to make/find new studs for the intake manifold. I figured 200 plus shipping plus cost of the new studs would not be that bad of a price honestly. Since I already have a plate, I dont need one anymore. I was trying to help out all the other members who I have seen in other nitrous threads mention that they would love to have a plate kit that worked with the Nikki. Its pretty obvious that all they did was basically copy the phenolic spacer, which seems to be what any other company would do. If any of the people that have talked to me about making a better system want to, please feel free to do so.
Edit: I've personally never seen a drilled hole be this smooth, though I suppose its possible. Bottom line - I'm happy with it, and I figured other people would be too. Like I said before, feel free to do this yourself and make some cash, but dont make it out of metal and dont use spraybars - they are "bad".
I already purchased the item in the pic. I paid 200 for it and still need to make/find new studs for the intake manifold. I figured 200 plus shipping plus cost of the new studs would not be that bad of a price honestly. Since I already have a plate, I dont need one anymore. I was trying to help out all the other members who I have seen in other nitrous threads mention that they would love to have a plate kit that worked with the Nikki. Its pretty obvious that all they did was basically copy the phenolic spacer, which seems to be what any other company would do. If any of the people that have talked to me about making a better system want to, please feel free to do so.
Edit: I've personally never seen a drilled hole be this smooth, though I suppose its possible. Bottom line - I'm happy with it, and I figured other people would be too. Like I said before, feel free to do this yourself and make some cash, but dont make it out of metal and dont use spraybars - they are "bad".
Last edited by IanS; 07-13-06 at 05:01 PM.
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