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Old 10-04-06, 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 82transam
yea I'm with renns, I'm not sure what you plan to gain buy going with two pumps, a surge tank, and all those filters. Just a bunch of money and more places for leaks to occur. Not to mention the fact that its certainly gonna be louder than a in tank pump will be....
Both methods are an acceptable way of achieving the same result and each have their drawbacks. I can tell you right now that I can't hear the pumps at all when the engine's running and leaks aren't an issue. Like anything it comes down to how well the installations carried out.

Surge tanks are easier and quicker to set up. They are also 100% effective at combating fuel slosh and have more fuel pump options available for high hp applications. The FC in-tank setup has been known to suffer from fuel slosh when low on fuel and in some cases has been attributed to blown engines. That's why most FC guys UPGRADE to a surge tank when shooting for high hp.

Don't get me wrong, the in-tank setup will work fine in many turbo applications and will be more then enough for an n/a setup. And renns did a very clean job on the installation. All I'm saying is neither way is perfect or necessarily better then the other.
Old 10-04-06, 01:46 AM
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thanks... all this confusion just brought me back to my first step... which to choose...

and well.. its not that I dont have enough money to do the project, its just that id wish not to spend a fortune on it. somewhat similar to what everyone else thinks/wants/does.

ps. Thanks for the help guys

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Old 10-04-06, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by REVHED
Both methods are an acceptable way of achieving the same result and each have their drawbacks. I can tell you right now that I can't hear the pumps at all when the engine's running and leaks aren't an issue. Like anything it comes down to how well the installations carried out.

Surge tanks are easier and quicker to set up. They are also 100% effective at combating fuel slosh and have more fuel pump options available for high hp applications. The FC in-tank setup has been known to suffer from fuel slosh when low on fuel and in some cases has been attributed to blown engines. That's why most FC guys UPGRADE to a surge tank when shooting for high hp.

Don't get me wrong, the in-tank setup will work fine in many turbo applications and will be more then enough for an n/a setup. And renns did a very clean job on the installation. All I'm saying is neither way is perfect or necessarily better then the other.
True, I guess I'm thinking of it from a simplicity standpoint, with my own 13bt project I'm not shooting for high hp numbers, little more than stock will suffice for me, and seeing as I don't really plan on highly modifying any part of it I would have no need for a highly modified fuel system, but as you say the guys running 400+ hp almost always have some kind of surge tank/dual pump setup to ensure they don't go lean. As you say, both are good in their own right, I guess the surge tank idea just seemed overkill for this guys application IMO.
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