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Old 04-10-03 | 11:28 AM
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You know... some gsl's have a hot start assist solenoid on the drivers side of the car. Elecrtic wench kind-of. you could actuate the port sleeve by cable...


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Old 04-10-03 | 11:28 AM
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there not mechanically opened i check after i read this on my s5 n/a 1990 gxl, it has the same exhaust setup as my 85 gsl-se.....sorry man
It looks the same, but it's not. see the above post.
Old 04-10-03 | 11:29 AM
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so, air pressure rather than vacuum operates these actuators?
Old 04-10-03 | 11:37 AM
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so, air pressure rather than vacuum operates these actuators?
Yes, either exhaust backpressure (Positive pressure) or Pos pressure from the smog pump
Old 04-10-03 | 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by Mark S
No, you didn't screw up.

The S5 actuators are kicked off by an electronic switch controlled by the ECU. The switch opens a valve on the ACV which lets positive air pressure in from a circut attached to the airpump. It's the air pressure from the Air Pump that works the actuators. There is no exhaust backpressure involved. The ECU looks at load and RPM to decide when to switch the actuators.

This same system is used to control the VDI actuator (switch from long intake runners to the short ones). It's located on the right upper section of the S5 intake.

While the actuators may look similar, the S4/SE ones Pull (Arm Retract) whereas the S5 push (arm extends) or vice versa I never remembrer which. Bottom line they move opposite directions.

And like I said, the S5s run off air pressure from the Air Pump and are computer controlled
Yeah I figured that out when I was trying to make my s4 lower manifold work with the s5 upper and mid.

What I did is I installed a S5 ACV, rats nest and evrything else. Then I grinded a little off the lower manifold where the vacuum comes out for the SE/S4 acutators. I plugged up the holes. I was now able to mount the s5 acutators. Then I had to make a new stopper plate (ya know the plater at the and of the rods that turn the sleeves, that have the stoppers pointing out that prevent the rods from going to far in either direction) I ended up having to swap the S4 front and rear turning rods around too.

I made the new stopper plate with the stoppers in the correct position so the could be pushed instead of pulled. It works, but not that well. I'm going to swap on a S5 lower manifold after I pass emissions that way everything runs like it supposed to.

Just so the people know who arent familiar with the s4 setup, the port air was moved from under the primaries to under the secondary and aux ports. They moved it back on the S5 however. Since I have an S4 block, I need working port air so I can pass emissions.
Old 04-10-03 | 03:31 PM
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Good start, Zach - what's your progress like?
Well, progress has stopped since school started, but I'll be able to work on it more in a few weeks. I'll keep everyone posted on the other thread and my site.
Old 04-10-03 | 03:42 PM
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I'd appreciate that, as I'm sure would others
Old 04-10-03 | 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by brownmound
Just wire em to a button and label it "NAAAWZZZZ!"

Right on.



That'd be good for a laugh
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