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Old 03-02-07, 12:58 PM
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Thanks Billy, thats about 50$ saving thats an awesome deal.

As for the above question i can answer this one ... yes he does, when you go to the site ... just click on the second gen brakes and you should see them there

Thanks again for your prompt reply and awesome customer service
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Originally Posted by dj55b

Thanks again for your prompt reply and awesome customer service
I also just dropped the price on the EBC rotor pairs. I wish they made rears as well.
We should be competitive now.

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Nice, what other products are you working on to provide us?
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I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the ReSpeed rack and pinion fb kit!!!!! YEEESSSSSSSSS
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Thanks Billy, for all the good things you are bringing out for these wonderful, yet often overlooked, cars. My hat's off to you.
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Its too bad you haven't got a solution for the small axle cars yet. That would probably be in big demand as the small axle cars make up about 3/4 of the total 1st gen production, and there are MANY more owners of them than the 84-85 cars, such as myself. I of course went a different route, but for those that want a different bolt pattern in the rear and don't have the skills to machine the stockers for a different pattern or put a ford 8.8 in.
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lets be honest though, most people that will buy this kit, are more about upgrading engines and stuff , turbo and stuff, so the people that do that upgrade to the 83-85 big axles anyways, which is why i think he came up with it just for those.
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Originally Posted by dj55b
lets be honest though, most people that will buy this kit, are more about upgrading engines and stuff , turbo and stuff, so the people that do that upgrade to the 83-85 big axles anyways, which is why i think he came up with it just for those.
Actually I asked billy about that, and the reason he doesn't have them for the small axle cars is that Moser won't make the axles for those cars. The blanks they use are too large for the small axle cars, they would have to turn down the WHOLE length of the axle shaft for it to work, and I guess they won't do that.

I agree that the majority of those that modify RX-7's use the 84-85 platform. Its beyond me why as the earlier ones were lighter and can be just as easily modified. But there is a large market still for the early cars. I think the biggest attraction to the axles and brake kit is to be able to have better stopping power and more wheel choices, not extra power handling. The stock small axles are big enough to handle a lot of power, more than the stock 3rd member can take. From my reading, its not the axles that break, its the ring gear and pinion gear that bust teeth off. Beyond that its the spider gears thats the weak point.
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Yes it would be nice to have an axle solution for small spline axles. As posted, Moser will not make them due to the fact that to much of the heat treat would be machined off going that small.

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They start with "blanks" That are long enough and large enough to make a number of different axles. These "Blanks" are heat treated to specification. In simplistic terms, heat treating is where metal is heated to known temperatures and certain cooling periods. This takes the material and changes it's strength properties. Their heat treating specifications only goes so deep from the surface. When they use a "off the shelf" blank to make our axles the closest blank is to large in diameter that the heat treating layers would be removed if the small spline axles were made.

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I have thought of one solution. Would anyone be interested in "renting" a drill bush guide that would allow them to drill off their own axles?

We would machine a part that fits the OD of the wheel flange and keys off an existing hole. It would have hardened drill bushings to keep the drill on pattern.

You would be able to "rent" this tool for a nominal fee that would be returned when the tool is returned.

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Billy, I would certainly do the drilling myself, with a tool made by you. You know, with this idea, and the rear caliper mounts you sell for the "old school" RX's to adapt GSL disc brakes, I bet your kit could even be used on the 79-83 drum housings. Possibly even the old school RX housings.
At that point, an additional front wheel bearing adapter option for the front kit, and the T2 brakes could be used on many more 1st gens, possibly even the old school rides.......
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Billy, I emailed you just recently (few days ago) and you answered me back very quickly, thanks for that, also you were mentioning that on the 81-83 front strut setups for the big brake kit your making a bushing kit so you dont have to switch to the 84-85 struts. aprox when do you plan on having this done (this sucks as i just took my 85 to the junkyard ).

Also out to anyone who reads this, anyone know of a TII thats being parted out right now that i can steal the whole front brake assembly off of it? South Dakota doesnt exactly have alot of TII's running around to steal parts from.

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driftking777: expand your search to also include the S4's with 5 lug wheels. Same brakes as a T2.
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^^^thank you
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