Sk8r_dude

im thinking of putting a 13B out of an 86 in my car. I have the engine, it has like 100,000 kilometers on it, and should still have pretty good compression. I'm also prolly gunna buy my buddys haltec stand alone fuel management system for it. The 13B is an auto. I want to keep the standard tranny. Can you guys give me some tips, or let me know about problems i will encounter? is this even a good idea? I think the engine swap would prolly be my best bang for my buck, cause i have the engine and the efi system will only cost me $600 (from a friend). advice?

Sk8r_dude

oh, thats $600 canadian too

Sk8r_dude

any advice guys?

ioTus

iTrader: (5)

What you will need to do to complete this swap is:

take the front cover off of your gsl-se engine, as well as the oil pan, and bolt them to the 2nd gen engine block.

Then it will bolt straight in. You can keep your transmission, it will work perfectly.

Have fun with the swap, and good luck wiring up the haltech!!!

hornbm

well, according to his sig, he has a 12a.

So since the car is an auto there are some additional questionsyou are going to run into if you want to keep your 5 speed.

First, your 12a front cover will work fine. Second since you dont have a SE, you will need to get a racing beat 12-13b mounting adapter, or slot you current motor mounts 20mm.

SInce the 13b was from an auto you are going to have to either find a stock flywheel and remove the counterweight and flexplate. Or you can keep the counterweight and get an aftermarket alluminum flywheel.

Also in the FC's, the throttle bodies were different from the auto and 5spd models. It would probably be easier just to find a complete intake manifold from a s4 5spd. They are plenty of them lying around, hell I just threw one out because it was taking up space.

Otherwise the swap fun will really come from wiring up that haltech up. Have fun!

Sk8r_dude

whats the diff with the throtle bodies?

hornbm

I couldnt tell you exactly, but I do know the vacuum lines and such are different due to there being more vacuum controlled things on the A/T throttle body.

If you pick up a haynes manual or a FSM, they show pictures of both throttle bodies, so you can see exactly what is different.

Again, I would just find an entire intake for a M/T and use that. They are pretty easy to find and would make the swap much easier than trying to find each little part you need to replace on the throttle body.

13B4port

i did a engine swap. i have a 84 gsl-se. the engine was shot. i put a 88 engine into it. it's taken me the hole month to get it running. i had to keep my 84 so that made a few problems.
first you have the monting of the engine. to solve that you have to do some parts swaping.
-swap front covers so the 88 engine had the 84 cover.
-swap oil pans b/c the frame and streeeting was in the way.
-swap the oil filters b/c the pan wouldn't fit on unless you did.

then the ecu caused problems with ignition and fuel. so that ment
-i had to run a distributor instead of a coil only ignition system.
-that ment i had to find vacum for the timing advance. so i disabled the EGR and used that vacum. it took some creative hosing to work.
-then i had the problem of going from 2 fuel injectors to 4 injectors. i had to swap out fuel rails and plug up the secondary injectors.
-i had to swap to the 84 injectors
-i had to make a intake piece to connect the air filter to the intake. i used a ducting size converter off the air filter and then used dryer hose to connect the 2 ends. thats temp untill i get the costum bent/size cone filter intake.
-then i after all that i had to swap out the exhaust manifolds to mkae the factor exhaust bolt up
-i then had to disable the 84 egr controls
-threw out the air pump and stuff that goes with it.
-and last but not least, i had to custom bend the linkage that runs from the oil lines on the front cover to the throttle linkage.

it was a major project. thee biggest pain was figuring out the vacum lines and switches. i had to run bassically a custom vacum setup.

but if this is what you're gona do, i wish you good luck. it took me a long tim to do it, and i learned a lot. i bassically have a 88 block and intake with 84 everything else.

pm me if you need help with it

13B4port

o i have a racing beat header with a cherry bomb turbo II muffler bolted on rigth after it sitting in my garage, waiting for me to bolt it on and run to the exhaust shop to have them run the 2.25 piping back to a muffler(yet to be decided what kind).

credit to the idea goes to FB II. thx man

Sk8r_dude

ok, ill admit it, im a novice at this stuff, would i be better to just spend my money on bolt on things for my 12A? i have another 12A in my parts car with low milage, should i use it? I think my engine with the high milage is tired, and the trannys about to go too...maybe i should swap in the 12A? it sounds less complicated...

Sk8r_dude

the 12A is a MT too