shm21284

Here are 3 price lists on 12A’s ONLY, one stock rebuild, one brand new stock, one street ported race spec motor.

I CAN REBUILD 13B's ALSO! JUST ASK FOR PRICE!

STOCK REBUILD - Includes used rotor housings, used side housings (not lapped), used rotors, used eccentric shaft, used bearings (if in spec), used oil pump, used side seals, used corner seals, and used oil control rings. Sll must be in spec if being re used. Comes with NEW apex seals, apex seal springs, side seal springs, 3rd gen corner seal springs, oil control ring springs, mazda gasket kit, new oil control ring o rings, new front and rear main seal, pilot bearing and seal.

This kit DOES include a waterpump and thermostat

Flywheel will be additional unless one is included with a core engine. Clutch and pressure plate will be optional.

Parts - ~$800
Labor - $300 (cleaning, rebuilding)
Core - $500

Total (with core exchange)- $1100 plus shipping


NEW STOCK ENGINE – includes ceramic coated rotor housings, lapped side housings, NEW side seals, NEW corner seals, NEW apex seals, NEW apex seal springs, NEW 3rd gen corner seal springs, NEW side seal springs, NEW oil control rings, NEW control ring springs, NEW viton oil control ring o rings, NEW waterpump and thermostat, NEW 13b hardened oil pump, NEW rotor bearings, NEW stationary gear bearings, USED rotors (unless new ones are needed), USED eccentric shaft (rear plug removed for cleaning, if no plug, then one will be drilled and tapped), NEW 3rd gen oil pressure regulator.

Parts: ~$1400
Labor: $600 (street porting, clearencing, cleaning, assembly)
Core: $500

Total (with core exchange): ~$2000 plus shipping.


RACE SPEC STREET PORTED ENGINE – Ceramic coated rotor housings, lapped side housings (re-nitrited), MAZDA apex seals, NEW apex seal springs, 3rd gen corner seal springs, NEW MAZDA corner and side seals, deep groove rotor bearings, hardened stationary gears with 3 window race bearing, 110psi oil regulator, competition oil control ring springs, NEW side seal springs, 13b hardened race oil pump, viton oil control ring o-rings, 13b aluminum waterpump, STREET PORTED exhaust and intake, RB underdrive pulley, dynamic balance of whole rotating assembly (including flywheel), NEW Lightweight steel flywheel with automatic counterweight, NEW front counterweight, NEW 83-85 rotors, NEW eccentric shaft, oil pan baffle, etc.

For used rotors, subtract $850
For used Eccentric shaft, subtract $230
For used front counterweight, subtract $50

Parts: ~$4700
Labor: $600 (street porting, clearencing, cleaning, assembly)
$450 dynamic balance
Core: $500

Total (with core exchange, not including shipping): ~$5750.
* Price will be adjusted according to what the customer does and does not want. For example, if the customer wants used rotors, eccentric shaft, and front counterweight, the price would be ~$4620





Here are some pics of my most current port job:

IanS

iTrader: (4)

nice. If I sent you housings would you be able to just simply port them? What templates do you have? Do you buy parts? PM me about the buying parts.

shm21284

i can just port them, yes. PM me with what you want.

I am using RB intake port templates and my own exhaust port template.

RRTEC

iTrader: (13)

Your prices for the modded motor are about equal to what I paid Mazdatrix......... How do your motors compare? Any members with rebuilds done by you that can reccommmend you? Do you have a webpage?

Thanks

trevor

shm21284

Nope, no web page yet. I am just getting started. I just sold a "used" engine with 4k miles on it, and hope to hear some feedback soon.

I was under the impression that mazdatrix's prices were substantially higher than these... the basic rebuild is $1800 where mine is $1100. Not sure though.

Also, I can't make any money on parts. I can lower the cost of the engines somewhat if I knew I would be getting a certain number of "jobs" a month, which would enable me to set up accounts with Mazda (for gasket kits, etc), JHB performance (for aluminum housings), Machine shops (for lapping).

shm21284

One major difference between my modded engines is that I use ceramic coating on the aluminum housings, which has a number of different advantages. A few are: self lubricating above 700 farenheight, 4 times LESS wear, less friction less heat (which means more power).

shm21284

Also, these are just general price lists. I am able to work with each person with what they want, depending on their application.

Latin270

do you do bridge ports?

Imagination

how much for 13B ?

shm21284

what do you want done to the 13b?

I have never bridge ported before... I am sure I will need to learn how, maybe I will buy some old cast plate to practice on.

Imagination

^ a stock rebuild like the 1st one for the 12A

shm21284

I am assuming that its a GSL SE motor... The only cost difference is in the apex seals. It would be 165 more. so, grand total: 1265

Mezzano

If I send you my motor can you rebuild it? I'll wait for a few month if I have to. (I want to keep my engine) Also where do you get the new parts? Especially, Apex seals.

Imagination

yeah, ok thats not to bad

will see what happends

shm21284

all parts are factory MAZDA, except the oil control ring o-rings (made by viton).

shm21284

any more questions/comments?

RRTEC

iTrader: (13)

sounds like a fair deal... Your pricing is in line with kevin landers... Hope to hear how this turns out....

shm21284

I am hoping for someone to go out on a limb and have me do it... I know no other way to build a reputation.

Also, I just sold an engine with 4k miles on it (basic rebuild) and hope to hear feedback on it soon.

james hull

I also rebuild rotary engines, mostly for my own use. However, I would like to know where you get the ceramic-coated housings, and the oil control 0-rings. Please email me at jameshull777@hotmail.com.

By the way, a good source for Mazda parts (at discount prices) is Trussville Mazda 1 800 633-8285 and ask for Marshall-a good guy.

Imagination

yeah the only problem i have with buyin engines from this guy is cause he's from Ohio :p

but I'm gonna try to rebuild my engine myself

candyassmiler

i bought the engine with 4k. well see how it goes. ill let you guys know.

PT Ray

I'll vouch for that. It seems the past couple months I have kept him busy either on the microfiche or me calling to see if my parts came in. The parts have purchased recently were about 25% cheaper than Mazdatrix (Sorry Mazdatrix).

shm21284

thanks for the help