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Old 06-14-03 | 01:44 PM
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Engine guys Help! Aluminum Flywheel ?

Alright.. I've run into a dilemna here...

I purchased a used AL flywheel setup that was thought to be from Racing Beat. Now the friction surface was worn down to the bolts, so that needed to be replaced. I ordered a new friction surface from RB and when I went to install it this morning I discovered that it doesn't fit.

Now what I need to know from you guys is, Who else makes AL flywheels for NA 13b? I pulled this flywheel directly off the block it used to be on, so I kow it' not the wrong wheel, but it's obviously not an RB wheel.

I snapped a bunch pf pictures of the flywheel and bothe new & old friction surfaces in hopes that someone here can help me figure out who mde this wheel. (no thre are no markings anywhere on it, I looked)

flywheel with old friction surface




RB new friction plate


Hmm, that's too big... Now what?


See the size difference between the two plates?


ah crap.. now what am I going to do? Off to the forum...
Old 06-14-03 | 02:00 PM
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possibly from www.horsepowerinabox.com (australian)
I was about to order a AL flywheel from them, but never got around to it. Try emailing them.
Old 06-14-03 | 02:26 PM
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I got a feeling the new friction plate you got is for the Turbo model.
Old 06-14-03 | 02:39 PM
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I got a feeling the new friction plate you got is for the Turbo model.
Not according to the label on the bad it's in...

Anyone have one laying around they can do a quick ID/OD measurement on so I can compare?
Old 06-14-03 | 02:42 PM
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I personally think an Aluminum flywheel is too light..

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Old 06-14-03 | 03:55 PM
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opinion noted, but that's not really what I was asking for now was it?
Old 06-14-03 | 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by rx7gslse
Not according to the label on the bad it's in...

Anyone have one laying around they can do a quick ID/OD measurement on so I can compare?
Call RB, and have them measure both for you. It could have been mislabled.

If that's not it, then it might be from Australia, or a J-spec vendor (dozens of those).
Old 06-14-03 | 04:02 PM
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No part number printed on the wheel? Maybe RB switch designs at some point.
Old 06-14-03 | 04:10 PM
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yeah, there are no marking on the flywheel at all... I showed it to steve Kan before I ordered it and he thought it was RB too...

I'm going to call RB on monday to see if they can help me out.. It is quite possible that they've changed designs sometime in the past.

The plate was labeled as "replacement for 25mm & 225mm Al flywheel" so maybe at some point they made different ones for both the 215 older cars and the newer 225mm cars.
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ok, well after a big more diging it appears that this does in fact look like an RB flywheel, but it has an odd friction surface on it....

The shitty part about it is that the friction surface on this flywheel is apparantly a 215mm ONLY setup (anything pre-84) and not a 225mm setup (which is what I need for my car)

So basically I'm fucked with a flywheel that was sold to me for the wrong application that is no longer made and I probably can't even but an off the shelf friction surface for anymore. (I know a couple places to custom make them for $100) but even then it's still setup for the smaller clutch assemblies.

Anyone out there want a 215mm AL flywheel? This ****** ain't gonna work on my car. (sucks because I've been waiting nearly 2 months on the promise that this would work for my car..)

**** me.. I want a beer.
Old 06-14-03 | 06:16 PM
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opinion noted, but that's not really what I was asking for now was it?
Stop being a mouthy dick...especially when someone is offering information.

**** me.. I want a beer.
You said it.

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Old 06-14-03 | 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by Forseti
Stop being a mouthy dick...especially when someone is offering information.
How exactly was telling me your opion on an unrelated subject "offering information?" I've obviously already made my decision and bought the Aluminum flywheel now haven't I?

Just so you know, the car is used more often than not for SCCA CSP competition than street driving, so you don't think I did my research? I asked for knowledge, not for unrelated information.


Most wouldn't run with 350# springs on 13x8" wheels either now would they?



Originally posted by Forseti
You said it.

I'd say the same towards you, but I suppose I'll restrain myself. I wouldn't want to be a "mouthy dick" now would I?

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Old 06-14-03 | 07:04 PM
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Originally posted by Forseti
I personally think an Aluminum flywheel is too light..

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and I personally think an aluminum flywheel is just right!
Old 06-14-03 | 07:07 PM
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So sorry to hear that the flywheel you bought was not what is was supposed to be. I just bought a used AL flywheel myself and I think I lucked out. But, I am looking for a friction plate. If RB will not take it back I would be interested. Can you measure its width ?
Thanks, and good luck!
Old 06-14-03 | 08:11 PM
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Damn dude! So this WILL fit on an older 13b tho??? Might know some ppl who would look into buying it.
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RB no longer makes those 215mm friction plate...I had the same problem when I had to replace mine. They said it was for 215 but it was not. Any how, Action Clutch in Los Angeles fixed that problem for me. They cleaned up my old friction plate since the existing was warped, modified my new pressure plate and made a shim (it goes between the AL and the rear counter weight). In addition, Action Clutch makes the pressure plate for Racing Beat.
Old 06-15-03 | 01:22 PM
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Cant you just get a 215mm clutch? If not, and theres some way to get a new friction plate (as wackyracer says), then Id be interested in the flywheel. PM me about it. Oh one thing. If I cant use it on my 12A then Im not interested in it LOL. Anyone have an answer on that?
Old 06-15-03 | 02:41 PM
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I stopped reading the posts about half-way down. So here is my input. You most likely have the replacement surface for the turbo model. Mislabled packages from Racing Beat are NOT uncommon. The friction surface for the 215/225mm flywheels is the SAME peice. The flywheels have a different desing to them, but have been engeinered to use the same plate. Don't freak just call them and tell them you have the wrong part and that it was misslabeled.

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Old 06-15-03 | 03:28 PM
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How exactly was telling me your opion on an unrelated subject "offering information?" I've obviously already made my decision and bought the Aluminum flywheel now haven't I?

Just so you know, the car is used more often than not for SCCA CSP competition than street driving, so you don't think I did my research? I asked for knowledge, not for unrelated information.
Yeah you bought a used flywheel you THOUGHT was from racing beat...and now that you made a mistake (or were screwed one of the other) you're asking for help. If someone posts something that isn't your instant gratification answer you're getting argumentative.

Also I would think someone who competes in SCCA CSP would be able to figure this one out.

So if you're a seasoned veteran then you should've already figured it out. Otherwise loose the attitude.

Anyone out there want a 215mm AL flywheel? This ****** ain't gonna work on my car
No. But then that's not what this thread is about...try the For Sale section.

See what I mean? Anyway...I do sincerely hope you find the right friction surface.

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Old 06-15-03 | 06:44 PM
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ALright kids, stop the mudslinging ok?
Old 06-15-03 | 07:52 PM
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Forseti, you did offer an opinion where none was needed. He was asking a question about the flywheel that he already bought, and you came in and basically told him that he's an *** because he bought a flywheel that you don't think he really would like.

Thats like you coming in asking how to eliminate the pulsation dampener, and the fire hazard associated with it, on your TII, and someone saying in your thread, "TII's suck 'cause they're too heavy." Here's how most (you included) would most likely reply "That's nice, but I like my TII, and I don't really care that you don't like TIIs."

Funny how familiar that sounds.

I think he acted appropriately the first post, but then you had to come around and stir up the hornets nest......
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Originally posted by fatboy7
Forseti, you did offer an opinion where none was needed. He was asking a question about the flywheel that he already bought, and you came in and basically told him that he's an *** because he bought a flywheel that you don't think he really would like.

Thats like you coming in asking how to eliminate the pulsation dampener, and the fire hazard associated with it, on your TII, and someone saying in your thread, "TII's suck 'cause they're too heavy." Here's how most (you included) would most likely reply "That's nice, but I like my TII, and I don't really care that you don't like TIIs."

Funny how familiar that sounds.

I think he acted appropriately the first post, but then you had to come around and stir up the hornets nest......


Nice post....
Old 06-16-03 | 12:26 AM
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Originally posted by moremazda
I stopped reading the posts about half-way down. So here is my input. You most likely have the replacement surface for the turbo model. Mislabled packages from Racing Beat are NOT uncommon. The friction surface for the 215/225mm flywheels is the SAME peice. The flywheels have a different desing to them, but have been engeinered to use the same plate. Don't freak just call them and tell them you have the wrong part and that it was misslabeled.

Ryan
the two sizes of friction of plate have the same RB part number. but there is no way that they will give you something they dont have. 215 is no longer out of production. TURBO II, 2nd gens NA and 83-85 are 225.

You can also try 10,000 RPM in Palmdale CA. I had to call different shops and they were willing to make it as long as I bring them the aluminum flywheel. I didnt go as they're 1hr away from me and they are only open during weekdays.
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