Engine guys Help! Aluminum Flywheel ?
#1
Engine guys Help! Aluminum Flywheel ?
Alright.. I've run into a dilemna here...
I purchased a used AL flywheel setup that was thought to be from Racing Beat. Now the friction surface was worn down to the bolts, so that needed to be replaced. I ordered a new friction surface from RB and when I went to install it this morning I discovered that it doesn't fit.
Now what I need to know from you guys is, Who else makes AL flywheels for NA 13b? I pulled this flywheel directly off the block it used to be on, so I kow it' not the wrong wheel, but it's obviously not an RB wheel.
I snapped a bunch pf pictures of the flywheel and bothe new & old friction surfaces in hopes that someone here can help me figure out who mde this wheel. (no thre are no markings anywhere on it, I looked)
flywheel with old friction surface
RB new friction plate
Hmm, that's too big... Now what?
See the size difference between the two plates?
ah crap.. now what am I going to do? Off to the forum...
I purchased a used AL flywheel setup that was thought to be from Racing Beat. Now the friction surface was worn down to the bolts, so that needed to be replaced. I ordered a new friction surface from RB and when I went to install it this morning I discovered that it doesn't fit.
Now what I need to know from you guys is, Who else makes AL flywheels for NA 13b? I pulled this flywheel directly off the block it used to be on, so I kow it' not the wrong wheel, but it's obviously not an RB wheel.
I snapped a bunch pf pictures of the flywheel and bothe new & old friction surfaces in hopes that someone here can help me figure out who mde this wheel. (no thre are no markings anywhere on it, I looked)
flywheel with old friction surface
RB new friction plate
Hmm, that's too big... Now what?
See the size difference between the two plates?
ah crap.. now what am I going to do? Off to the forum...
#2
possibly from www.horsepowerinabox.com (australian)
I was about to order a AL flywheel from them, but never got around to it. Try emailing them.
I was about to order a AL flywheel from them, but never got around to it. Try emailing them.
#4
Originally posted by Directfreak
I got a feeling the new friction plate you got is for the Turbo model.
I got a feeling the new friction plate you got is for the Turbo model.
Anyone have one laying around they can do a quick ID/OD measurement on so I can compare?
#7
Originally posted by rx7gslse
Not according to the label on the bad it's in...
Anyone have one laying around they can do a quick ID/OD measurement on so I can compare?
Not according to the label on the bad it's in...
Anyone have one laying around they can do a quick ID/OD measurement on so I can compare?
If that's not it, then it might be from Australia, or a J-spec vendor (dozens of those).
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#9
yeah, there are no marking on the flywheel at all... I showed it to steve Kan before I ordered it and he thought it was RB too...
I'm going to call RB on monday to see if they can help me out.. It is quite possible that they've changed designs sometime in the past.
The plate was labeled as "replacement for 25mm & 225mm Al flywheel" so maybe at some point they made different ones for both the 215 older cars and the newer 225mm cars.
I'm going to call RB on monday to see if they can help me out.. It is quite possible that they've changed designs sometime in the past.
The plate was labeled as "replacement for 25mm & 225mm Al flywheel" so maybe at some point they made different ones for both the 215 older cars and the newer 225mm cars.
#10
ok, well after a big more diging it appears that this does in fact look like an RB flywheel, but it has an odd friction surface on it....
The shitty part about it is that the friction surface on this flywheel is apparantly a 215mm ONLY setup (anything pre-84) and not a 225mm setup (which is what I need for my car)
So basically I'm fucked with a flywheel that was sold to me for the wrong application that is no longer made and I probably can't even but an off the shelf friction surface for anymore. (I know a couple places to custom make them for $100) but even then it's still setup for the smaller clutch assemblies.
Anyone out there want a 215mm AL flywheel? This ****** ain't gonna work on my car. (sucks because I've been waiting nearly 2 months on the promise that this would work for my car..)
**** me.. I want a beer.
The shitty part about it is that the friction surface on this flywheel is apparantly a 215mm ONLY setup (anything pre-84) and not a 225mm setup (which is what I need for my car)
So basically I'm fucked with a flywheel that was sold to me for the wrong application that is no longer made and I probably can't even but an off the shelf friction surface for anymore. (I know a couple places to custom make them for $100) but even then it's still setup for the smaller clutch assemblies.
Anyone out there want a 215mm AL flywheel? This ****** ain't gonna work on my car. (sucks because I've been waiting nearly 2 months on the promise that this would work for my car..)
**** me.. I want a beer.
#12
Originally posted by Forseti
Stop being a mouthy dick...especially when someone is offering information.
Stop being a mouthy dick...especially when someone is offering information.
Just so you know, the car is used more often than not for SCCA CSP competition than street driving, so you don't think I did my research? I asked for knowledge, not for unrelated information.
Most wouldn't run with 350# springs on 13x8" wheels either now would they?
Originally posted by Forseti
You said it.
You said it.
Last edited by rx7gslse; 06-14-03 at 06:35 PM.
#14
So sorry to hear that the flywheel you bought was not what is was supposed to be. I just bought a used AL flywheel myself and I think I lucked out. But, I am looking for a friction plate. If RB will not take it back I would be interested. Can you measure its width ?
Thanks, and good luck!
Thanks, and good luck!
#16
RB no longer makes those 215mm friction plate...I had the same problem when I had to replace mine. They said it was for 215 but it was not. Any how, Action Clutch in Los Angeles fixed that problem for me. They cleaned up my old friction plate since the existing was warped, modified my new pressure plate and made a shim (it goes between the AL and the rear counter weight). In addition, Action Clutch makes the pressure plate for Racing Beat.
#17
Cant you just get a 215mm clutch? If not, and theres some way to get a new friction plate (as wackyracer says), then Id be interested in the flywheel. PM me about it. Oh one thing. If I cant use it on my 12A then Im not interested in it LOL. Anyone have an answer on that?
#18
I stopped reading the posts about half-way down. So here is my input. You most likely have the replacement surface for the turbo model. Mislabled packages from Racing Beat are NOT uncommon. The friction surface for the 215/225mm flywheels is the SAME peice. The flywheels have a different desing to them, but have been engeinered to use the same plate. Don't freak just call them and tell them you have the wrong part and that it was misslabeled.
Ryan
Ryan
#19
How exactly was telling me your opion on an unrelated subject "offering information?" I've obviously already made my decision and bought the Aluminum flywheel now haven't I?
Just so you know, the car is used more often than not for SCCA CSP competition than street driving, so you don't think I did my research? I asked for knowledge, not for unrelated information.
Just so you know, the car is used more often than not for SCCA CSP competition than street driving, so you don't think I did my research? I asked for knowledge, not for unrelated information.
Also I would think someone who competes in SCCA CSP would be able to figure this one out.
So if you're a seasoned veteran then you should've already figured it out. Otherwise loose the attitude.
Anyone out there want a 215mm AL flywheel? This ****** ain't gonna work on my car
See what I mean? Anyway...I do sincerely hope you find the right friction surface.
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#21
Forseti, you did offer an opinion where none was needed. He was asking a question about the flywheel that he already bought, and you came in and basically told him that he's an *** because he bought a flywheel that you don't think he really would like.
Thats like you coming in asking how to eliminate the pulsation dampener, and the fire hazard associated with it, on your TII, and someone saying in your thread, "TII's suck 'cause they're too heavy." Here's how most (you included) would most likely reply "That's nice, but I like my TII, and I don't really care that you don't like TIIs."
Funny how familiar that sounds.
I think he acted appropriately the first post, but then you had to come around and stir up the hornets nest......
Thats like you coming in asking how to eliminate the pulsation dampener, and the fire hazard associated with it, on your TII, and someone saying in your thread, "TII's suck 'cause they're too heavy." Here's how most (you included) would most likely reply "That's nice, but I like my TII, and I don't really care that you don't like TIIs."
Funny how familiar that sounds.
I think he acted appropriately the first post, but then you had to come around and stir up the hornets nest......
#22
Originally posted by fatboy7
Forseti, you did offer an opinion where none was needed. He was asking a question about the flywheel that he already bought, and you came in and basically told him that he's an *** because he bought a flywheel that you don't think he really would like.
Thats like you coming in asking how to eliminate the pulsation dampener, and the fire hazard associated with it, on your TII, and someone saying in your thread, "TII's suck 'cause they're too heavy." Here's how most (you included) would most likely reply "That's nice, but I like my TII, and I don't really care that you don't like TIIs."
Funny how familiar that sounds.
I think he acted appropriately the first post, but then you had to come around and stir up the hornets nest......
Forseti, you did offer an opinion where none was needed. He was asking a question about the flywheel that he already bought, and you came in and basically told him that he's an *** because he bought a flywheel that you don't think he really would like.
Thats like you coming in asking how to eliminate the pulsation dampener, and the fire hazard associated with it, on your TII, and someone saying in your thread, "TII's suck 'cause they're too heavy." Here's how most (you included) would most likely reply "That's nice, but I like my TII, and I don't really care that you don't like TIIs."
Funny how familiar that sounds.
I think he acted appropriately the first post, but then you had to come around and stir up the hornets nest......
Nice post....
#23
Originally posted by moremazda
I stopped reading the posts about half-way down. So here is my input. You most likely have the replacement surface for the turbo model. Mislabled packages from Racing Beat are NOT uncommon. The friction surface for the 215/225mm flywheels is the SAME peice. The flywheels have a different desing to them, but have been engeinered to use the same plate. Don't freak just call them and tell them you have the wrong part and that it was misslabeled.
Ryan
I stopped reading the posts about half-way down. So here is my input. You most likely have the replacement surface for the turbo model. Mislabled packages from Racing Beat are NOT uncommon. The friction surface for the 215/225mm flywheels is the SAME peice. The flywheels have a different desing to them, but have been engeinered to use the same plate. Don't freak just call them and tell them you have the wrong part and that it was misslabeled.
Ryan
You can also try 10,000 RPM in Palmdale CA. I had to call different shops and they were willing to make it as long as I bring them the aluminum flywheel. I didnt go as they're 1hr away from me and they are only open during weekdays.
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