ECU selection for Turbo 1st Gens
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ECU selection for Turbo 1st Gens
I'm very seriously considering a Microtech LT10s for my ride. It will eliminate some of the stuff thats been added to the car to make it run well and will be more effiecent. I was just wondering if their are any others running aftermarket ecu's in their 1st gens. If so, what are you running and how do you like it?
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IIRC there are a lot of people running Megasquirt. I have no idea if it is an aftermarket ECU, or a piggy back setup or what. I don't know much about fuel injection setups. I've lived in 12a land for too long.
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depends what u want to achieve with ur set up ? are u going to turbo ur vehicle is it a 12a or 13b is it turbo and what mods u want on this vehicle i personally run a microtec lt8-s on my 12a turbo project . and i know may peeps here are running microtecs haltec and others on their set ups . go to ecu section here and u will see all the ones being use. gl with ur search.
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If you run the numbers of the nikki carb like CFM and GPM and just kinda map you fuel curve, you can use a sheet metal intake with direct injectors i have tried this set up once and got the motor to work but i could never get a computer system set up. it would have worked great but that damn computer thing was the worst everytime tried to talk to somebody about makeing one for me the would just slam the door in my face.
It would work to take a 2nd gen set up and have the ECU flashed to fit the 12a fuel curve! but thats a lot more work then im willing to put in ill just stick with my Holley 700
It would work to take a 2nd gen set up and have the ECU flashed to fit the 12a fuel curve! but thats a lot more work then im willing to put in ill just stick with my Holley 700
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Originally Posted by trochoid
Depending on budget, and I know this isn't what you're asking for, but have you considered or looked into MegaSquirt? There is an entire sub-forum devoted to each of the different standalone ecus.
Now if someone had one built and tested true, I would be willing to try it, as long as it did what I needed. It needs to drive 4 injectors, read my sensors, excite the coils, read boost, and compensate for my A/C. I'm older, so I likes my a/c.
The Microtech will replace my distributor( which I wanted out anyway), replaces my 2 MSD 6AL's and SS Blaster Coils, HKS AIC, MAF, and possibly my efan relay and thermostat. If I had bought the Microtech in the first place, I'd be about the same amount of money spent. Anyway, It appears most folks like the Microtech for the 1 gen cars. My car(engine) is built with a combo of parts, internals and some housings from a 3rd gen, sensors from the 1st gen and a plenum from a 2nd gen. The car runs very well, but the factory ecu can not do it justice and the rich fuel odor when its idleing drives me nuts. Anyway, thanks for the thought of a megasquirt, not totally out, just on the edge.
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Have you been to the dedicated MS forum. Much more info there than here and a seperate rotary section. There are also pre-built units and flying harnesses availible. I'm definitely not electronicly gifted, but I'm going to give the MS a go for the TII swap. I'm sure I will hate myself and have less hair while setting it up, but once it's done I believe I'll be happy with the money saved, the tuneability and things that I learn during the process.
Besides, I'm stubborn and still believe I can learn most anything I put my mind too. Getting older has simply become a good excuse for being even more stubborn. I think it's expected with age anyway, lol.
Besides, I'm stubborn and still believe I can learn most anything I put my mind too. Getting older has simply become a good excuse for being even more stubborn. I think it's expected with age anyway, lol.
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Originally Posted by trochoid
Have you been to the dedicated MS forum. Much more info there than here and a seperate rotary section. There are also pre-built units and flying harnesses availible. I'm definitely not electronicly gifted, but I'm going to give the MS a go for the TII swap. I'm sure I will hate myself and have less hair while setting it up, but once it's done I believe I'll be happy with the money saved, the tuneability and things that I learn during the process.
Besides, I'm stubborn and still believe I can learn most anything I put my mind too. Getting older has simply become a good excuse for being even more stubborn. I think it's expected with age anyway, lol.
Besides, I'm stubborn and still believe I can learn most anything I put my mind too. Getting older has simply become a good excuse for being even more stubborn. I think it's expected with age anyway, lol.
Are you doing this soon?
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Okay, I'm looking at as soon as my taxes return, like this friday. hey, check out my post in the 2gen section about the hack job I took on. Let me know what you think.
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Originally Posted by trochoid
Still picking up needed parts for the swap. Have a few more projects to get out of the way, then I can start building the engine. Hope to be up and running by June, only about 4 months behind schedule this time.
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Originally Posted by trochoid
Intercooler and piping, full rebuild kit, clutch, ecu. v-band for the turbo when it gets here, injectors to support 400 hp, just little cheap stuff, lol.
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Okay, I'm looking at as soon as my taxes return, like this friday. hey, check out my post in the 2gen section about the hack job I took on. Let me know what you think.
As far as the other parts, I have a line on an intercooler, 32" for me is to wide to fit comfortably how I plan on mounting it. V-band, I won't know until the turbo shows up and I may send it back out and have the compressor and trim changed. Injectors, haven't gotten that far. Need to build up some more cash reserve before I finalize the parts list.
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I have been looking at getting the stuff together for a turbo swap. I have been leaning to getting an S5 13BT, and running the Apex PFC. Banzai racing has a adapter harness to adapt the FD PFC to run in the FC S5 cars. I see no reason why it would not work on a first gen., knowing that there would be a few changes for the chassis stuff, but a lot of the chassis stuff wouldn't even be bothered with. I need to ask more questions, but I have chosen to explore this option for a few reasons.
First, it is a tried and true system. Granted prob. not the best, but all is debatable. The Banzai site is good reading for the adaptation of this to the FC. But if Steve Kan or some other tuner were close or was coming to the area, I know that a lot of rotary tuners know the PFC.
Second, right now, is cost. about 900 for the pfc and commander, IIRC. and 150 for the adapter. there are a few small items as well, but don't seem like a biggie. The other side of that coin is I have heard the Apex'i has filed for bankruptcy. I don't know how or to what extent, but of course the rumor mills have started and all say that the prices will jack shortly.
I don't know, so many choices, so much time, so little freakin cash for this.
Cheers,
Travis
First, it is a tried and true system. Granted prob. not the best, but all is debatable. The Banzai site is good reading for the adaptation of this to the FC. But if Steve Kan or some other tuner were close or was coming to the area, I know that a lot of rotary tuners know the PFC.
Second, right now, is cost. about 900 for the pfc and commander, IIRC. and 150 for the adapter. there are a few small items as well, but don't seem like a biggie. The other side of that coin is I have heard the Apex'i has filed for bankruptcy. I don't know how or to what extent, but of course the rumor mills have started and all say that the prices will jack shortly.
I don't know, so many choices, so much time, so little freakin cash for this.
Cheers,
Travis
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There are a myriad of ecu's that will all do the job. If you will be hiring out the install/tuning work, my suggestion would be to use whatever ecu is best supported locally. If on the other hand you plan on doing the whole job yourself, then you may want to look at the MegaSquirt. It's definitely in the DIY category, but is quite capable in the right hands. I've been running Megasquirt in various forms for years, and it's presently installed on my S5 turbo 13B-powered SA.
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another vote for haltech or microtech, but then again it will ony run as good as the tuner is so fine one in your area and buy what he has the most expirience with
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