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Old 03-22-04 | 12:12 AM
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Door Panel question

Under the door panels is plastic tarred to the door. What kind of tar is it? I need more so I can tar more plasic so water doesnt rot my panels. or what else can I use-Thanks

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Old 03-22-04 | 12:15 AM
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ummm i would imagine its just your standard all weather tar adhesive
go to the hardware store and ask them, they will get you what you need
Old 03-22-04 | 12:31 AM
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The plastic doesn't keep water out of the door, that is the job of the window seals. The plastic is mainly there as an anti noise measure. Newer cars use a kind of thin self-skinned foam instead of a sheet of plastic - better sound absorption while still being easy to handle/install.

Much nicer than my old Ford. It had a sheet of *tar*. That sucked to work around!
Old 03-22-04 | 12:43 AM
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Alright thanks.
Old 03-22-04 | 01:04 AM
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Mine get wet cuz I need new winow channel seal or whatever. Im suppose to be getting my VictoriaBritish catalog soon
Old 03-22-04 | 08:45 AM
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Silicone should work too.

It is a little less messey then tar...
Old 03-22-04 | 09:32 AM
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You can get the thick plastic sheets (used for painting) from home depot.....then duct tape to secure it. I prefer the HVAC black duct tape as its much stickier than the gray ones.
Old 03-22-04 | 01:59 PM
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it is my understanding that the plastic works as a vapor barrer. Yes the window seals should keep water out of the door but in our real world water can get into everything. The plastic is there to prevent the cheap cardboard backing from warping from moisture.
Old 03-22-04 | 02:34 PM
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yeah mine got molded so i bought new ones.
Old 03-22-04 | 07:34 PM
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Oh... interior panels... gotcha!

I had spent a bunch of time reading Ford Capri material, much of which was written by people in England and New Zealand, so my perception of "panel" was aligned to "body panel" IE sheetmetal.
Old 03-22-04 | 07:38 PM
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Yeah i got the plastic on today. i used BIG STRETCH caulk. worked good. thanks for the help.
Old 03-23-04 | 01:22 PM
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I replaced my plastic with a 1/4" insulation used on metal buildings. It protects from moisture and also cuts down on a lot of noise, doors sound good and solid when you shut them. I traced around the panels and cut the insulation about 3/4" inside the panel clips and used an spray contact adhesive. Panels fit nice and a lot less noise. Find someone who erects metal buildings and they will probably have a little bit they would give you, because you wouldn't want to buy a whole roll of it.
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Old 03-23-04 | 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by peejay
Oh... interior panels... gotcha!

I had spent a bunch of time reading Ford Capri material, much of which was written by people in England and New Zealand, so my perception of "panel" was aligned to "body panel" IE sheetmetal.
I know what you mean, I've been spending time on some UK Ford Fiesta boards.
I was surprised to find that a "wing" is actually a fender, just to cite one example.
Door panels are called "cards", too.
Old 03-23-04 | 02:38 PM
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why not use some sort of dynamat insted? WOuld that do the same thing as building material?
Old 03-23-04 | 02:56 PM
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thats a good idea using insulation. I might do that cause i like when the door sounds solid when you shut it.
Old 03-23-04 | 05:03 PM
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I thought the plastic was there to protect the cardboard/wood panel of the door panel from moister so it dosen't rot.
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