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Old 07-06-07, 05:24 PM
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Dizzy Trailing wire

Ok guys, I found the wire that is cut. It is marked as the Leading Ignitor Signal wire in the FSM... But I have leading ignition. This is the only wire I cut on the whole assembly. Now that I have it cut, I have no trailing spark. Where does this wire go? its just stripped, and no other wire with the same colors in the harness to the dizzy. Can I run this wire with an extension to a specific part on the igniter?
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Old 07-06-07, 05:32 PM
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the end of the wire that is conected, what is it conected to? i'll check on me car in a little bit.
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The end of the wire just goes down into a wiring wrap. This end (the scut/stripped) goes to the dizzy.
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maybe you having the trailing signal wired up to the leading coil? I have an FB dizzy sitting around, come by some time and we could compare
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I need a clearer pix but typically, the thicker black wire is 12v (some years share a common wire from the harness to the igniter) while the thinner yellow/blue or yellow/green connects from the coil - to the igniter
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Is that coil negative to ignitor negative? I cant get a better pic, it is on my cell phone for now, my sister has the camera.
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Wacky, your a genius. I was wondering where to run the wire at for the trailing cut wire. So I thought, what if i just used the old leading negative clip?

Viola! I have trailing spark!

Thanks everyone! Now, one last question... How do I set the timing now? Is it the same way with the 2GDFIS and stock, just twist the dizzy and move the dashpots?
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How do I set the timing now? Is it the same way with the 2GDFIS and stock, just twist the dizzy and move the dashpots?[/QUOTE]

DLIDFS yes you set the timing the same. 2GDFIS i dont know
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Wow, runs like **** and hardly starts. Timing is way off, Idle is horrible. Found out that the wire I cut is yellow with a blue stripe, and the other piece is connected to a plug that goes into the ignitor. Why do I need this so badly if it doesnt need it? This is so ^&#%ing confusing and is annoying me to no end. Am I supposed to use this ignitor plug for my trailing?

I used the leading coil's negative plug and pluged it into my trailing coil. Now my trailing coil has spark. I put the keys in the ignition and car wont start up. The engine turns and starts then OOF it turns to 0rpm, then resumes starting again (wtf?) So I swap the whole trailing wires to the dizzy from trailing to leading, and then the trailing plug wires into L1 and L2 (but still going to the T1 and T2 plugs, respectively). Start the car and it does the same thing, the engine spins, stops, spins whatever, but finally catches and the idle is horrible.

Going to upload pics/vids with my phone. Someone help me fix this please, I seriously want to just give up hope on this.
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Engine starting up.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...04249903764364

Now is when the engine changed tone, like I lost the trailing ignition. I let of fthe gas, that is why the RPMs dropped. Sorry, its upside down.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...09810777412969

This is my Trailing coil. It has the Leading coil's negative plug attached to it, I am holding the trailing's negative plug, because the first post's picture. It is yellow with a blue stripe in it. I have the plug, but no place to plug it to.



here is my plug wire set up. I have the Trailing coil's plug wire going into the leading plug hole in the dizzy. from there, it exits the dizzy from L1 and L2, but heading to the T1 and T2 plugs, respectively.

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Dude..............what have you done now? I thought we had the ignition straightned out on that thing. You need to double check that you haven't got the leading and trailing igniters swapped again. From looking at your picks, I think you have the tach signal wire in your hand.
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Just clip that end connector and replace it with 0-terminal and bolt it straight to the coil - side
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Ok guys, me and sam were on the phone. He brought up something that is so obvious that I have no clue how I overlooked it.... You cant splice the dizzy wires for one coil to run 2, since the rotors dont fire at the same time. So starting tomorrow, I will be reverting back to complete stock minus blaster coils in place of originals.

Thanks everyone, and wacky, I finally got what you said! I hate being on the slow side.
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go with a 2nd gen coil! so much easier with similar results! you won't be disappointed.
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<QUOTE>You cant splice the dizzy wires for one coil to run 2, since the rotors dont fire at the same time</QUOTE>

That's half true. If you fire both trailing plugs at the same time one of the rotors will be in the middle of a compression cycle. For the leading it's okay because the other rotor will be in it's power stoke already.
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Yeah, you can fire a 2nd gen coil into both the leading at the same time because one rotor will fire at the proper time, the other will fire into the chamber after the mix has already ignited, so it'll be a "wasted spark"

You just can't do this with the trailing because it would fire spark into the incoming mixture that's still compressing, causing your engine to work backwards.

So there's no reason that you can't do what you're doing you just have to figure out what you're missing to make it fire right. I don't have my manual on me, but are you sure that you haven't mixed up the yellow/green and yellow/blue wires?

Are you trying to fire the 2nd gen coil directly off your stock ignitor?

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