direct fire the trail
#26
You would have to make a bracket from the trailing top left sensor to suspend an additional sensor 45 from it. I have a dizzy setup to direct fire both leading and direct fire each trailing individually just wanted to get it done in a cas.
#27
Originally Posted by Hades12
What about a combination of the two of them to get the best of both worlds?
YARRRRRR GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So how do you actually do the rest? 4 MSD's? 4 igniters? This wouldnt get you a wasted spark would it? but who cares!
#28
It wouldn't.
I did something even greater for a 20B. It had three pickups on the bottom with a stock 4 tooth reluctor for the so called wasted spark on leading (technically it's not wasted spark on a 20B but you know what I mean), and three pickups on the top with a 2 tooth reluctor for single firing trailing.
Trailing wasn't worth the effort so I only test ran the 20B on leading only. It worked fine. Three pickups, three ignitors, three coils, three plug wires, three spark plugs. NA, obviously.
My next task is a 4 rotor with wasted spark.
I did something even greater for a 20B. It had three pickups on the bottom with a stock 4 tooth reluctor for the so called wasted spark on leading (technically it's not wasted spark on a 20B but you know what I mean), and three pickups on the top with a 2 tooth reluctor for single firing trailing.
Trailing wasn't worth the effort so I only test ran the 20B on leading only. It worked fine. Three pickups, three ignitors, three coils, three plug wires, three spark plugs. NA, obviously.
My next task is a 4 rotor with wasted spark.
#29
Originally Posted by Rx7carl
YARRRRRR GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So how do you actually do the rest? 4 MSD's? 4 igniters? This wouldnt get you a wasted spark would it? but who cares!
#30
Originally Posted by Hades12
elwood Built what you see there, Right now it is in a Bag in a Box in my shead, The plan is 4 GM HEI, or a COP setup.
#31
Bringing back from the past.
Jeff, when doing this, one would get 'wasted spark' on the leading, so the leading coils would fire the double amount than with the 2 tooth wheel. now the question is: what does the engine like the most? less load and heat on the coil (as it need to fire only half as mch with 2 tooth wheel), or a very late leading (wasted) spark 180 deg after the 'normal' near tdc leading spark when the downside that the coil and plug needs to first twice as much...
Jeff, when doing this, one would get 'wasted spark' on the leading, so the leading coils would fire the double amount than with the 2 tooth wheel. now the question is: what does the engine like the most? less load and heat on the coil (as it need to fire only half as mch with 2 tooth wheel), or a very late leading (wasted) spark 180 deg after the 'normal' near tdc leading spark when the downside that the coil and plug needs to first twice as much...
#32
The coil is firing its normal amount when it sparks twice per revolution, as in wasted spark or stock through the cap. The only difference here is wasted spark uses two coils for leading and through the cap uses one coil for leading. It (they) still spark twice per revolution as the Mazda engineers intended. This means you can use an aftermarket tach set to 4cyl mode and it reads correctly.
This is all for leading only. Don't get confused and try to factor in trailing. I mention this disclaimer because the thread topic is about trailing etc.
This is all for leading only. Don't get confused and try to factor in trailing. I mention this disclaimer because the thread topic is about trailing etc.
#33
Sure, but with 2 instead of 4 bump the leading works just like the trailing, so the coils only fire half the rate, and thus have twice the time for loading, which might be a good thing at 9500 rpm??
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