Design flaws.
#26
Originally posted by 31rx7
Wankelguy - "That's because it was never intended as an oil cooler, but rather an oil heater."
I must say this is the first time I have heard that.
Given that this setup replaced the oil cooler on the 79 - 82 cars, I am a bit skeptical. At the same time, I do understand the need to keep the oil at a working temperature, and certainly this device does that once the engine is at its working temperature.
However, I understood it to be designed primarily as a cooler. Please explain.
Wankelguy - "That's because it was never intended as an oil cooler, but rather an oil heater."
I must say this is the first time I have heard that.
Given that this setup replaced the oil cooler on the 79 - 82 cars, I am a bit skeptical. At the same time, I do understand the need to keep the oil at a working temperature, and certainly this device does that once the engine is at its working temperature.
However, I understood it to be designed primarily as a cooler. Please explain.
#27
Originally posted by ray green
The cup holders, definately. I spilled my oversize coffee mug twice last week. Anybody know of any good after marker cup holders (besides my wife).
Ray
The cup holders, definately. I spilled my oversize coffee mug twice last week. Anybody know of any good after marker cup holders (besides my wife).
Ray
#29
I agree with all the previously mentioned lists. IMO the biggest flaw of them all is the wheel well rust. The rest of the problems (rear suspension, steering, beehive oil cooler etc) can be fixed by most people with basic tools, while, depending on the severity of the damage the wheel well rust will either require a body shop to fix, or just make you junk the car completely if its really bad. Despite all the little things wrong with the car its still awesome and well all love our shitboxes
#30
like previously mentioned, the rear defrosters. Does anyone know a good way to reatatch these? Other than that I am having a hard time thinking of any problems that I have with my car.
#31
Originally posted by 1stgen4life
like previously mentioned, the rear defrosters. Does anyone know a good way to reatatch these? Other than that I am having a hard time thinking of any problems that I have with my car.
like previously mentioned, the rear defrosters. Does anyone know a good way to reatatch these? Other than that I am having a hard time thinking of any problems that I have with my car.
#32
Originally posted by ray green
The cup holders, definately. I spilled my oversize coffee mug twice last week. Anybody know of any good after marker cup holders (besides my wife).
Ray
The cup holders, definately. I spilled my oversize coffee mug twice last week. Anybody know of any good after marker cup holders (besides my wife).
Ray
#34
Originally posted by rotarygod
The name of this thread should be something along the lines of "find something that isn't a design flaw!"
The name of this thread should be something along the lines of "find something that isn't a design flaw!"
#36
I will easily disagree with the godlike handling comment. It goes back to the suspension system flaws since they did nothing right in this respect.
Don't get me wrong I love my first gen. It is a damn fun little car.
Don't get me wrong I love my first gen. It is a damn fun little car.
#37
Originally posted by rotarygod
I will easily disagree with the godlike handling comment. It goes back to the suspension system flaws since they did nothing right in this respect.
Don't get me wrong I love my first gen. It is a damn fun little car.
I will easily disagree with the godlike handling comment. It goes back to the suspension system flaws since they did nothing right in this respect.
Don't get me wrong I love my first gen. It is a damn fun little car.
Another flaw:
Weak, easily broken attachment points for the shifter boot (part of the cheesy interior weakness). Fortunately there are several fixes for this one also.
#39
Originally posted by cdrad51
He's just pulling your leg man, or being sarcastic. It's just not a popular design, but it is meant to be an oil cooler.
He's just pulling your leg man, or being sarcastic. It's just not a popular design, but it is meant to be an oil cooler.
The beehive is supposed to warm the oil up to stabilize it's temperature with that of the water. This is mostly useful for cold weather warm-up.
#40
Originally posted by Wankelguy
Nope. I'm not joking or being sarcastic.
The beehive is supposed to warm the oil up to stabilize it's temperature with that of the water. This is mostly useful for cold weather warm-up.
Nope. I'm not joking or being sarcastic.
The beehive is supposed to warm the oil up to stabilize it's temperature with that of the water. This is mostly useful for cold weather warm-up.
#41
lol, well they had to call it something.
"Oil cooler" sounds better than "oil/water temperature stabilizer" I suppose.
In all fairness, there is a possibility that the thing could actually cool your oil if the oil got hotter than the water...
"Oil cooler" sounds better than "oil/water temperature stabilizer" I suppose.
In all fairness, there is a possibility that the thing could actually cool your oil if the oil got hotter than the water...
#42
Originally posted by Wankelguy
lol, well they had to call it something.
"Oil cooler" sounds better than "oil/water temperature stabilizer" I suppose.
In all fairness, there is a possibility that the thing could actually cool your oil if the oil got hotter than the water...
lol, well they had to call it something.
"Oil cooler" sounds better than "oil/water temperature stabilizer" I suppose.
In all fairness, there is a possibility that the thing could actually cool your oil if the oil got hotter than the water...
Last edited by cdrad51; 12-15-03 at 09:10 PM.
#43
Originally posted by cdrad51
So you are actually serious? My bad for misinterpreting you. But anything that has heat diffusers, I would call a cooler. That plus the fact that it replaces the under-the water-radiator-cooler of earlier models, it's a giveaway to me.
So you are actually serious? My bad for misinterpreting you. But anything that has heat diffusers, I would call a cooler. That plus the fact that it replaces the under-the water-radiator-cooler of earlier models, it's a giveaway to me.
I doubt that the wimpy array of fins is going to lose much heat compared to the heating effect of the water. But, I suppose it all depends on which is hotter, and when.
#44
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From: CHARLOTTE
Wheel size on the SE. There are no VR speed rated tires in this size : 205/60/14. If someone knows of any that are all season let me know. I have done many searches and cannot find any. The discontinued Michelin MXV ll beat the hell out of the original Pirellis. I have heard the discontinued Yoko AVX Intermediates were great. I guess I am going with the Michelin Pilot H XGT. One has to go with the lower H speed rating or spend all the $ to change rims.
#46
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From: CHARLOTTE
I would love to have a Z rated but is anything available in 205/60/14 though? Usually the rim sizes get larger as the speed rating increases. There is just very little selection in 14" anymore due to the crazy rim size arms race.
#47
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Yeah, 14" is considerably smaller than what most cars are coming with from the factory these days...
I work at a Chrysler/Dodge dealership-you wouldn't believe what these chrome 17", 19", and 20" (truck) wheels cost...
I work at a Chrysler/Dodge dealership-you wouldn't believe what these chrome 17", 19", and 20" (truck) wheels cost...
#48
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Only thing im going to bitch about is rust.... DAMN RUST..... Bought another SE that had "very little rust." Which it wasn't bad in the tirewell, used a grider to get most of it. Then when i was under the car taking the starter out, i reached to the rocker pannel to pull myself out. And my fingers went through it. rust sucks...
#50
What about the fact that Mazda(partly owned by the blue oval) made the engine bay just big enough to fit a small-block? Yeah, I guess that would be one of the good things the engineers did!
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