Cosmo 13BTT
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Cosmo 13BTT
G'day fellas, long time no see.
Well i finally secured the engine ive been looking for (Cosmo 13B TT) should be getting it shipped in a few weeks. (there are some dodgy characters on ebay hey steer well clear of the ones asking to do a wire transfers, and report them to ebay).
Just got some questions for the Gurus;
1. Im swapping it into a 1985 SA22C right hand drive, im pretty sure the twin turbo has to go, due to clearance issues with our RHD steering boxes. any suggestions on a particular single trubine/compressor makeup to make a reliable 350HP?
2. Whats the deal with the stock SA22C gearbox and diff? some people have been telling me its tough enough to withstand that sort of punishment? any suggestions on a good setup?
3. Anyone got a Cosmo 13B in thier SA22C i could have a look at?
Well i finally secured the engine ive been looking for (Cosmo 13B TT) should be getting it shipped in a few weeks. (there are some dodgy characters on ebay hey steer well clear of the ones asking to do a wire transfers, and report them to ebay).
Just got some questions for the Gurus;
1. Im swapping it into a 1985 SA22C right hand drive, im pretty sure the twin turbo has to go, due to clearance issues with our RHD steering boxes. any suggestions on a particular single trubine/compressor makeup to make a reliable 350HP?
2. Whats the deal with the stock SA22C gearbox and diff? some people have been telling me its tough enough to withstand that sort of punishment? any suggestions on a good setup?
3. Anyone got a Cosmo 13B in thier SA22C i could have a look at?
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I can answer #2 for ya. As long as you are not dumping the clutch everytime you leave a stop light, then your stock setup will be fine. There are guys in PR running SP/BP turbos on stock trans and rear ends.
As for the 1'st question, I think you will get more help in the Turbo section of the forums than here.
As for the 1'st question, I think you will get more help in the Turbo section of the forums than here.
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You're talking about the 13B-RE engine right? I'm sourcing my parts. for my Cosmo into 1st Gen build now! I havn't gotten the engine yet but I'm curious if you can let me know when you get it in. I'm curious about how the piece mounting into the throttle boddy compares to that of a 3rd Gen RX-7. The piping that leads from the intercooler to the throttle boddy has four screws and i'm wondering if it's the same as on a 3rd Gen.
There are a few threads somewhere in the first Gen area... but i can't find them. If you find them can you let me know too?
I'm planning on putting in a Turbo 2 tranny in mine. However I'm aiming for 450-500 HP.
Good luck on your build!
There are a few threads somewhere in the first Gen area... but i can't find them. If you find them can you let me know too?
I'm planning on putting in a Turbo 2 tranny in mine. However I'm aiming for 450-500 HP.
Good luck on your build!
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G'day fellas, long time no see.
Well i finally secured the engine ive been looking for (Cosmo 13B TT) should be getting it shipped in a few weeks. (there are some dodgy characters on ebay hey steer well clear of the ones asking to do a wire transfers, and report them to ebay).
Just got some questions for the Gurus;
1. Im swapping it into a 1985 SA22C right hand drive, im pretty sure the twin turbo has to go, due to clearance issues with our RHD steering boxes. any suggestions on a particular single trubine/compressor makeup to make a reliable 350HP?
60-1 is great I hear.
2. Whats the deal with the stock SA22C gearbox and diff? some people have been telling me its tough enough to withstand that sort of punishment? any suggestions on a good setup?
Go w/ a T2. Take you time, modify the shifter. Some people prefer a un-modded shifter since it sits a little further back. I would just assume that it go into the stock location.
The rear is good to 300whp w/ snappy boost. If you are dragging expect to either, a. replace the diff frequently or b. put a 8.8 in it.
3. Anyone got a Cosmo 13B in thier SA22C i could have a look at?
Well i finally secured the engine ive been looking for (Cosmo 13B TT) should be getting it shipped in a few weeks. (there are some dodgy characters on ebay hey steer well clear of the ones asking to do a wire transfers, and report them to ebay).
Just got some questions for the Gurus;
1. Im swapping it into a 1985 SA22C right hand drive, im pretty sure the twin turbo has to go, due to clearance issues with our RHD steering boxes. any suggestions on a particular single trubine/compressor makeup to make a reliable 350HP?
60-1 is great I hear.
2. Whats the deal with the stock SA22C gearbox and diff? some people have been telling me its tough enough to withstand that sort of punishment? any suggestions on a good setup?
Go w/ a T2. Take you time, modify the shifter. Some people prefer a un-modded shifter since it sits a little further back. I would just assume that it go into the stock location.
The rear is good to 300whp w/ snappy boost. If you are dragging expect to either, a. replace the diff frequently or b. put a 8.8 in it.
3. Anyone got a Cosmo 13B in thier SA22C i could have a look at?
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Also, try asking on http://www.ausrotary.com/ if you haven't already. Lots of guys there that could better answer your question about the clearance for RHD cars.
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You're talking about the 13B-RE engine right? I'm sourcing my parts. for my Cosmo into 1st Gen build now! I havn't gotten the engine yet but I'm curious if you can let me know when you get it in. I'm curious about how the piece mounting into the throttle boddy compares to that of a 3rd Gen RX-7. The piping that leads from the intercooler to the throttle boddy has four screws and i'm wondering if it's the same as on a 3rd Gen.
There are a few threads somewhere in the first Gen area... but i can't find them. If you find them can you let me know too?
I'm planning on putting in a Turbo 2 tranny in mine. However I'm aiming for 450-500 HP.
Good luck on your build!
There are a few threads somewhere in the first Gen area... but i can't find them. If you find them can you let me know too?
I'm planning on putting in a Turbo 2 tranny in mine. However I'm aiming for 450-500 HP.
Good luck on your build!
Setzep and Directfreak helped me a lot with decisions for my swap (13b-RE).
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For the diff you have drums...up grade and get the gsl or the gsl-se setup yo will be so much happier you did...For the gear box run the sa22 that in itself is a hard tranny to find and the gearing is awsome for your setup and will hold up to the power...But like it was said above unless you plan on dumping the clutch at ever single street light it won't last...
For the turbo go with a schwitzner turbo s200 small and will stay make the horse power your looking for and on top of that small enough to fit in your right hand drive set up holla back playa
Click here for the borwarner/Schwitzner turbo
For the turbo go with a schwitzner turbo s200 small and will stay make the horse power your looking for and on top of that small enough to fit in your right hand drive set up holla back playa
Click here for the borwarner/Schwitzner turbo
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Thanks guys, very informitive feed-back.
The engine is getting pulled apart and rebuilt with all new internals and street-porting.
I will certainly be posting a piece-by-piece build thread as we go along.
Im looking at a supra gearbox with an adapter plate at the moment if i can fit it, ive also read that there is a Toyota Hilux LSD diff that is suitable for this? anyone know of it?
The engine is getting pulled apart and rebuilt with all new internals and street-porting.
I will certainly be posting a piece-by-piece build thread as we go along.
Im looking at a supra gearbox with an adapter plate at the moment if i can fit it, ive also read that there is a Toyota Hilux LSD diff that is suitable for this? anyone know of it?
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i am going to run a tII tranny w/my 13bre... this is going in a 84 gsl-se...
in dec. i helped a friend of mine put a 13brew motor together for his 84gs... he used a tII tranny as well and it worked out great... he does plan on putting a grannies speed shop 8.8 rear under the car after he returns from iraq.... but the gsl-se rear end that he transplanted in the car did just fine for the test drives he put it through...lol i don't think it would last to long under those conditions...
in dec. i helped a friend of mine put a 13brew motor together for his 84gs... he used a tII tranny as well and it worked out great... he does plan on putting a grannies speed shop 8.8 rear under the car after he returns from iraq.... but the gsl-se rear end that he transplanted in the car did just fine for the test drives he put it through...lol i don't think it would last to long under those conditions...
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Yeah sounds like the TII tranny is the way to go and bolts straight on, and i agree if im not aiming for crazy ammounts of HP then maybe the Supra box is pointless.
My stock SA22C box has had it after 185000kms of abuse.
My stock SA22C box has had it after 185000kms of abuse.
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I'm sorry I forgot all about that -- it's been awhile.
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What Turbine Housing A/R:would you suggest for the GT35R? i havent done the math yet but would like to see where the numbers map in relation to your choice.
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Just checked out this site http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/me...egory_Code=GRT
What Turbine Housing A/R:would you suggest for the GT35R? i havent done the math yet but would like to see where the numbers map in relation to your choice.
What Turbine Housing A/R:would you suggest for the GT35R? i havent done the math yet but would like to see where the numbers map in relation to your choice.