CARB tweaking
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CARB tweaking
i am about to put a full exaust system into my '83 GSL and i want to know what i can do to my carb to help it all work better...i already know that im going to build a cold air intake and place next to the rad(i saw a picture of a guys car on this forum...)
thanks
thanks
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From: Trying to convince some clown not to put a Holley 600 on his 12a.
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thanks that was a shitload of information....i will seriously consider this....i havent read everything yet....but what kind of feul mileage can i expect....???? an improvement or reduction?
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From: Trying to convince some clown not to put a Holley 600 on his 12a.
Ppppfffft...12.5 MPG.
Hey, ya wanna go faster or not?!
But you can put in smaller fuel jets and tune to economy if you want. You probably won't ever see better than about 16-17 though, and at those #s, you won't have "performance" in the generally accepted definition of the word.
Hey, ya wanna go faster or not?!
But you can put in smaller fuel jets and tune to economy if you want. You probably won't ever see better than about 16-17 though, and at those #s, you won't have "performance" in the generally accepted definition of the word.
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From: Trying to convince some clown not to put a Holley 600 on his 12a.
If everything is perfectly tuned, you can get 155 HP from your 12a. I still say there's 160 in there somewhere, but most disagree. (We're talking cold air box, K&N, direct fire ignition, the works.)
But with a free flowing exhaust and a properly modded and tuned Nikki carb, you can enjoy 155. I do not have documentation, but others do on their websites. Paul Yaw has dyno sheets on his website demonstrating this.
A modded carb in the hands of someone not willing to learn to properly tune it will never reach its full performance potential. You simply HAVE to learn to tune a carb!
Read Read Read!
But with a free flowing exhaust and a properly modded and tuned Nikki carb, you can enjoy 155. I do not have documentation, but others do on their websites. Paul Yaw has dyno sheets on his website demonstrating this.
A modded carb in the hands of someone not willing to learn to properly tune it will never reach its full performance potential. You simply HAVE to learn to tune a carb!
Read Read Read!
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can you e-mail me at leif_e_larsen@hotmail.com
thanks
thanks
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From: Trying to convince some clown not to put a Holley 600 on his 12a.
That's understandable. But niether myself, nor Carl are doing this because it's very profitable! We already have alot invested both in time and money.
We have freely given much advice on the things that we've learned, and that should be a demonstration that we're not in it for the money. We're not doing anything that anyone else could'nt learn to do if they wanted to put in the time and effort to learn, modify, test, and produce.
We're just two of very few that want to right now.
Right now we need carbs, so we've temporarily offered a $50 core charge on carbs. In other words, for each extra carb you send us to keep, we'll deduct 50 bucks from the $320 mod price.
We have freely given much advice on the things that we've learned, and that should be a demonstration that we're not in it for the money. We're not doing anything that anyone else could'nt learn to do if they wanted to put in the time and effort to learn, modify, test, and produce.
We're just two of very few that want to right now.
Right now we need carbs, so we've temporarily offered a $50 core charge on carbs. In other words, for each extra carb you send us to keep, we'll deduct 50 bucks from the $320 mod price.
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From: Trying to convince some clown not to put a Holley 600 on his 12a.
Yes.
"Right now we need carbs, so we've temporarily offered a $50 core charge on carbs. In other words, for each extra carb you send us to keep, we'll deduct 50 bucks from the $320 mod price."
That cute little word in there will keep us from going bankrupt! We may retract and reinstate this offer at any time, depending on our financial needs.
But yeah, you send us three carbs that are in better condition than row-boat anchors, and we'll do that.
No bent throttle shafts, cracked carb housings, or rusty throttle bodies will be tolerated!!!
-As a result, we retain the right to call/Email you and say, "Hey...whaddup with this carb, man?..." In these cases we may deduct a ten spot from the discount, depending on how bad it is.
Emissions **** is not a concern- we have buckets of it for testing later.
PEOPLE- pack your carbs well, damnit!
-I cannot stress this enough. I want a damn plywood bottom inserted in the box! Despite the fact that Mario no longer works there, the folks at UPS are still playing "conveyor launch basketball" with our packages.
Bent throttle shafts SUCK!
...sorry, folks. This coffee is GOOOOOO-OOOOD!
"Right now we need carbs, so we've temporarily offered a $50 core charge on carbs. In other words, for each extra carb you send us to keep, we'll deduct 50 bucks from the $320 mod price."
That cute little word in there will keep us from going bankrupt! We may retract and reinstate this offer at any time, depending on our financial needs.
But yeah, you send us three carbs that are in better condition than row-boat anchors, and we'll do that.
No bent throttle shafts, cracked carb housings, or rusty throttle bodies will be tolerated!!!
-As a result, we retain the right to call/Email you and say, "Hey...whaddup with this carb, man?..." In these cases we may deduct a ten spot from the discount, depending on how bad it is.
Emissions **** is not a concern- we have buckets of it for testing later.
PEOPLE- pack your carbs well, damnit!
-I cannot stress this enough. I want a damn plywood bottom inserted in the box! Despite the fact that Mario no longer works there, the folks at UPS are still playing "conveyor launch basketball" with our packages.
Bent throttle shafts SUCK!
...sorry, folks. This coffee is GOOOOOO-OOOOD!
Last edited by Sterling; 07-14-03 at 09:58 AM.
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hey if i get you three carbs youre hooking me up with modified carb??
is this for real.
i live in los angeles and i can get you three from the local junk yard.i've seen a few rebuilt carbs.you can tell when they look like new. will you pay for shipping to me.i'll cover my shipping to you.also what mods do you do to the carb??
zamoraanglz@aol.com
or 1323 807 3496
ask 4 angel
also****
how can i be guaranteed that i wont be scammed if i send them.
is this for real.
i live in los angeles and i can get you three from the local junk yard.i've seen a few rebuilt carbs.you can tell when they look like new. will you pay for shipping to me.i'll cover my shipping to you.also what mods do you do to the carb??
zamoraanglz@aol.com
or 1323 807 3496
ask 4 angel
also****
how can i be guaranteed that i wont be scammed if i send them.
Last edited by peccas; 07-14-03 at 12:05 PM.
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Originally posted by FuLLsMoKe
Mario worked at UPS?
Mario worked at UPS?
The things I saw in the centers when it came to package handling...sheesh...UPS pays out small claims damages in amounts large enough to float several companies for years...can't complain, though when you also crank out $4 bil in PROFITS each year...
And I think sterling is lowballing the HP number unless he's talking RWHP, myself...
Last edited by mar3; 07-14-03 at 02:00 PM.
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From: Trying to convince some clown not to put a Holley 600 on his 12a.
Guys look- it's not that hard...
You send me a carb. It's your carb. You want it rebuilt only (& cleaned) it's gonna cost you 150 for doing it plus 20 for shipping and packing.
Ya wannit modded? It'll cost you 300 for doing it plus 20 for shipping and packing.
I think that's pretty damn reasonable.
Even packing the ******* thing takes forever! (Think I need to here a bunch of people bitching about bent throttle shafts?
-And I'll tell ya another damn thing that ticks me off- I'd be bitched at left and right by you all if I sent the finished product back to you packed the way some of you guys send the carbs to me!)
Can't come up with the dough? I'll help ya out, cause you probly' got (or can get) somethin' I need anywayz...
For every carb you send me, that's in reasonable condition, I will deduct 50 bucks from the job...be it a rebuild, or a mod job.
Now if you can scare up 3 carbs, and send them to me, along with the one you want rebuilt and cleaned, and a check for twenty bucks (...shipping and packaging kids...), then yeah, I'll do your rebuild.
Nobody's gettin a modded carb for three "core" carbs. (Are you NUTZ?!)
There's a thread kickin' around entitled "Carb modification services" (or sum-tin like that) that spells out everything you need to know. Click HERE.
Now for all you folks that say it's too much money, well I don't know what else to tell you. But your comments of the price being too high is certainly not going to prompt either Carl or myself to lower it for you!
Carl and I are "backyard mechanics" just like most all of you guys. This is not something we are going to make any money on, that's for damn sure. If you don't know, talk to someone who has done rebuilds and see. We even clean the whole thing, and sandblast the parts! What the HELL else do ya want for 150 bucks?
As far as the cost of modifications, well I've gone and slit my own throat already if I was out to make money, because I've already listed EXACTLY HOW TO DO THE ******* THINGS ON A GLOBAL FORUM!
(breathebreathebreathe...) Soooo, I suggest y'all stop lookin at me for "something for nothing", and do some research.
I think you'll be back, but if you don't come back wanting a carb, you'll be a little smarter about it and might even do a mod or two yourself. It's very rewarding.
Hope I did'nt come off too pissy, but I try like hell to behave as humbly and helpfully as I can, and it kinda feels like a kick in the teeth when someone talks about "scamming", or "too much money", or even "well what do I get for all that money..." when I've spilled everything I know on this forum just to share it with everyone. Any of you that have asked these questions have done so because you're not familiar with me- understandable.
But you did'nt SEARCH!
You send me a carb. It's your carb. You want it rebuilt only (& cleaned) it's gonna cost you 150 for doing it plus 20 for shipping and packing.
Ya wannit modded? It'll cost you 300 for doing it plus 20 for shipping and packing.
I think that's pretty damn reasonable.
Even packing the ******* thing takes forever! (Think I need to here a bunch of people bitching about bent throttle shafts?
-And I'll tell ya another damn thing that ticks me off- I'd be bitched at left and right by you all if I sent the finished product back to you packed the way some of you guys send the carbs to me!)
Can't come up with the dough? I'll help ya out, cause you probly' got (or can get) somethin' I need anywayz...
For every carb you send me, that's in reasonable condition, I will deduct 50 bucks from the job...be it a rebuild, or a mod job.
Now if you can scare up 3 carbs, and send them to me, along with the one you want rebuilt and cleaned, and a check for twenty bucks (...shipping and packaging kids...), then yeah, I'll do your rebuild.
Nobody's gettin a modded carb for three "core" carbs. (Are you NUTZ?!)
There's a thread kickin' around entitled "Carb modification services" (or sum-tin like that) that spells out everything you need to know. Click HERE.
Now for all you folks that say it's too much money, well I don't know what else to tell you. But your comments of the price being too high is certainly not going to prompt either Carl or myself to lower it for you!
Carl and I are "backyard mechanics" just like most all of you guys. This is not something we are going to make any money on, that's for damn sure. If you don't know, talk to someone who has done rebuilds and see. We even clean the whole thing, and sandblast the parts! What the HELL else do ya want for 150 bucks?
As far as the cost of modifications, well I've gone and slit my own throat already if I was out to make money, because I've already listed EXACTLY HOW TO DO THE ******* THINGS ON A GLOBAL FORUM!
(breathebreathebreathe...) Soooo, I suggest y'all stop lookin at me for "something for nothing", and do some research.
I think you'll be back, but if you don't come back wanting a carb, you'll be a little smarter about it and might even do a mod or two yourself. It's very rewarding.
Hope I did'nt come off too pissy, but I try like hell to behave as humbly and helpfully as I can, and it kinda feels like a kick in the teeth when someone talks about "scamming", or "too much money", or even "well what do I get for all that money..." when I've spilled everything I know on this forum just to share it with everyone. Any of you that have asked these questions have done so because you're not familiar with me- understandable.
But you did'nt SEARCH!
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From: Trying to convince some clown not to put a Holley 600 on his 12a.
No, I did'nt say that. I just mean that I have a reputation, and it should be good enough to stand on it's own merit here.
Folks just have to do their homework. I never buy something - even for a hundred bucks - without researching the person or product.
Besides, you get caught breakin' kneecaps again, who we gonna get to ride Carls Cyclone Inducer?!
Folks just have to do their homework. I never buy something - even for a hundred bucks - without researching the person or product.
Besides, you get caught breakin' kneecaps again, who we gonna get to ride Carls Cyclone Inducer?!
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I think where the problems came in was when the 320 dollar race carb was mentioned *without* mentioning the 150 dollar "stock rebuild". Not that you should have needed to mention it, since people like me who've been keeping up with all your posts *know* what's going on.
But if there's one thing that I learned working the elections here in march, it's that even the SIMPLEST things can be misunderstood and contorted, and that people take offence at things because they jump to conclusions that throw them off. Like this:
"320$ just to slap a rebuild kit in a carb? PLUS shipping? that's stupid" (and also VERY inaccurate!)
or this:
Guy A (knows about the 150$ stock rebuild, is talking about said rebuild) says:
"so then three extra donor carbs gets you one free"
Guy B (who knows nothing about this because he only read what's in the thread he's sitting in, and not even all of that) says:
"3 carbs for a free race carb instead of 320 dollars? where do I sign?"
I don't blame Sterling for getting frustrated, but then again, we should just sticky a thread with one post, and that post should say :
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Sterling and Rx7Carl are in business for carb stuff!
Stock Carb Rebuild : 170$ US
Race Carb Rebuild : 320$US
These prices include the 20$ shipping back to you. Shipping the carb to them is your own responsibility. Please contact them for information concerning packaging, since carburetors are sensetive objects and must be packed properly so the USPS can play football with them and not kill them.
Additionally, for a limited time these guys are offering a 50$ discount to anyone who includes a complete, rebuildable carburetor along with the one they want rebuilt, as a donation to them. This "discount" is cumulative with more than one donor carb, but the 20$ ship-back charge still applies.
For information on what Carl and Sterling are going to do to your carb and what they give you for your money, click
HERE
or
HERE
any other questions, e-mail Sterling or Rx7Carl
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But if there's one thing that I learned working the elections here in march, it's that even the SIMPLEST things can be misunderstood and contorted, and that people take offence at things because they jump to conclusions that throw them off. Like this:
"320$ just to slap a rebuild kit in a carb? PLUS shipping? that's stupid" (and also VERY inaccurate!)
or this:
Guy A (knows about the 150$ stock rebuild, is talking about said rebuild) says:
"so then three extra donor carbs gets you one free"
Guy B (who knows nothing about this because he only read what's in the thread he's sitting in, and not even all of that) says:
"3 carbs for a free race carb instead of 320 dollars? where do I sign?"
I don't blame Sterling for getting frustrated, but then again, we should just sticky a thread with one post, and that post should say :
-----
Sterling and Rx7Carl are in business for carb stuff!
Stock Carb Rebuild : 170$ US
Race Carb Rebuild : 320$US
These prices include the 20$ shipping back to you. Shipping the carb to them is your own responsibility. Please contact them for information concerning packaging, since carburetors are sensetive objects and must be packed properly so the USPS can play football with them and not kill them.
Additionally, for a limited time these guys are offering a 50$ discount to anyone who includes a complete, rebuildable carburetor along with the one they want rebuilt, as a donation to them. This "discount" is cumulative with more than one donor carb, but the 20$ ship-back charge still applies.
For information on what Carl and Sterling are going to do to your carb and what they give you for your money, click
HERE
or
HERE
any other questions, e-mail Sterling or Rx7Carl
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Last edited by vipernicus42; 07-14-03 at 07:44 PM.