can a 1st drift better than a ae86 without lsd
03-05-05 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by siamiam
and no matter what people say D1 is not racing but it is a good show of driver car control.
in comparison with martial arts,
Drag/road race = kumite
Drift = kata
03-05-05 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by wackyracer
in comparison with martial arts,
Drag/road race = kumite
Drift = kata
Drag/road race = kumite
Drift = kata
Road Race= Asian K1 (no holds barred, bare knuckle)
Drag= Olympic Karate (Takes skill, but not as impressive to watch)
Drift= Tai Chi (very pretty, but ineffectual in its modern form)
Yes I know Tai Chi is one of the most effective martial arts when done the old way, but much like Capoiera it has become a dance more than a martial art.
03-05-05 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by wackyracer
in comparison with martial arts,
Drag/road race = kumite
Drift = kata
Drag/road race = kumite
Drift = kata
road race=kumite
D1 Drifting=kata
speed drift/Rally= bringing a gun to a knife fight
03-05-05 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex-7
I'll give you art, but definatly not sport. There is no definate way with which to judge it. You'd might as well be judging two retards finger painting. Sure it takes precision and controll, but so does basket weaving. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but taking the slowest possible way around a corner and trying to make it look pretty is a fad not a sport.
I'm sure it's lots of fun, but if you intend to take this hobby seriously you had better ditch that auto quick, or you will be making an *** out of your self (and all the real asian kids will laugh at you)
--Alex
I'm sure it's lots of fun, but if you intend to take this hobby seriously you had better ditch that auto quick, or you will be making an *** out of your self (and all the real asian kids will laugh at you)
--Alex
03-05-05 | 05:07 PM
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to all seriousness, it's harder to drift FB's since the steering geometry is entirely different and a little bit worse compared to the 86's. power to power, they're head on. chassis wise, i think FB's have a slight edge.
03-05-05 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by siamiam
speed drift/Rally= bringing a gun to a knife fight
two entirely different things there.
Sure, rally cars slide around corners, but you know why?
they are on dirt and if you have ever driven a dirt road at any kind of speed, you would see that its unnavoidable to slide a bit. which is the complete opposite of speed drifting.
just IMO and my .02
03-05-05 | 07:29 PM
#38
Originally Posted by d0 Luck
to all seriousness, it's harder to drift FB's since the steering geometry is entirely different and a little bit worse compared to the 86's. power to power, they're head on. chassis wise, i think FB's have a slight edge.
03-05-05 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Supper
my one and only question is, how can you compair speed drifting with Rally?
two entirely different things there.
Sure, rally cars slide around corners, but you know why?
they are on dirt and if you have ever driven a dirt road at any kind of speed, you would see that its unnavoidable to slide a bit. which is the complete opposite of speed drifting.
just IMO and my .02
two entirely different things there.
Sure, rally cars slide around corners, but you know why?
they are on dirt and if you have ever driven a dirt road at any kind of speed, you would see that its unnavoidable to slide a bit. which is the complete opposite of speed drifting.
just IMO and my .02
Tarmac= asphalt, there are many rally races that take place on tarmac which is the connection to speed drift.
03-05-05 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RarisRX-7
Ae86 w/o LSD is still a better drifter due to its indep suspension and tighter turning radius
http://www.geocities.com/rookietrial/toyotaae86.html
03-05-05 | 11:59 PM
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didn't mean to start a tussle just a simple question gone wrong. I am not all knowing but i do know that two exact same cars with same skill drivers and knowlage of the road , on a hairpin turn type corse , the driver useing speed drift technique is going to beat the one using tipical cornering techniques . and as for alex. I refuse to respond to ignorant amtures with a smaller vocab than brains . again I am not all knowing but I open my mouth only to ask a question to help find faqs or if i know what im talking about, you however seem to not grip any concepts of stating facts in a disput for truth. thnxs for your help to evry one else
03-06-05 | 12:21 AM
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i agree to everyone, on this. drift is show and can be used for speed but only in certain situations. I mean who would wanna drift in a 3 hour race anyway? all those tire changes. just a dumb response but i just wanted to get in it...
03-06-05 | 12:29 AM
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"i agree to everyone, on this. drift is show and can be used for speed but only in certain situations. I mean who would wanna drift in a 3 hour race anyway? all those tire changes. just a dumb response but i just wanted to get in it"
cool but in a drift race theres hardly 3hours of driving sumtimes only one lap, down, uphill
cool but in a drift race theres hardly 3hours of driving sumtimes only one lap, down, uphill
03-06-05 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by rx7spadeace
and as for alex. I refuse to respond to ignorant amtures with a smaller vocab than brains .
You still don't know what the **** you're talking about.
I am sorry for my malicious hijacking of your thread. So go on with your quest to become a bad *** drifter.
Carry on, stupid. I will steer clear. I promise.
--Alex
03-06-05 | 12:52 AM
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thnx alex and next time u decide to leave a last message save ur breath on the insults because chances are youve used them bout three time before the last time and your message is still as lame as the first time.
03-06-05 | 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by rx7spadeace
thnx alex and next time u decide to leave a last message save ur breath on the insults because chances are youve used them bout three time before the last time and your message is still as lame as the first time.
Alright fuckstick, I offered a way out, and you're still combative. Of course, I am too. but mark my words, I WILL have the last word between the two of us.
And if you're talking about me saying that you don't know what the **** you're talking about several times, It's because you don't and you still don't seem to understand that you don't. But that's because you're an idiot.
Look, just shut your mouth, and I'll stay off your thread......................
---Alex
03-06-05 | 01:24 AM
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[QUOTE=rx7spadeace] this technique was invented to give fr cars the ability to monuver a corner at the same speeds and recover better than awd cars. QUOTE]
LOOK, YOU ARE ******* STUPID, AND YOU MAKE **** UP.
Lets stop this dude, enough is enough.
Have fun,
--Alex
LOOK, YOU ARE ******* STUPID, AND YOU MAKE **** UP.
Lets stop this dude, enough is enough.
Have fun,
--Alex