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Old 09-14-03 | 02:52 PM
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Blue smoke when reving....

Ok.. so I did a search and didn't come up with quite my situation here. So heres what happens.. If I let the car sit in a parking lot and rev the engine, lets say 6K - 7K like 3 or 4 times the car will start bellowing blue smoke out the back.. but if I do the same thing while driving which is all the time I don't get any smoke at all. When the car starts up theres never any smoke and it runs perfectly and passed smog just a few weeks ago with only 70 HC..... So ideas?
Old 09-14-03 | 03:03 PM
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blue smoke is oil but im not sure about what is wrong
Old 09-14-03 | 03:55 PM
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Do you notice alot of oil consumtion?
Old 09-14-03 | 04:36 PM
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Looks like the signs of a rebuild are showing.
Old 09-14-03 | 05:27 PM
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Maybye the oil rings are starting to die.
Old 09-14-03 | 07:06 PM
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Bad valve seals.
Old 09-14-03 | 07:25 PM
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Bad valve seals.
I think you are on the wrong forum buddy

Well it seems like the o-rings are starting to die. Unless somehow you are getting some oil into your intake when it sits down.
Old 09-14-03 | 08:22 PM
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Hmm, I had a problem like that, on my GSL-SE. Not sure if the 12A's work the same but I had a broken spring on my Oil Metering Pump which caused the smoking problem.
Old 09-14-03 | 08:55 PM
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All of those are symptoms of bad oil seals. Check out http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/cfaqtext.html#SSTART and you should get you answer.
Old 09-14-03 | 08:58 PM
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Re: Blue smoke when reving....

Originally posted by natew
heres what happens.. If I let the car sit in a parking lot and rev the engine, lets say 6K - 7K like 3 or 4 times the car will start bellowing blue smoke out the back..
Ok, since my weak attempt at humor above wasn't taken that well, I'll try a new tactic.

Your motor is dying. Probably because you sit in the parking lot and rev it to redline repeatedly. What the hell did you expect?

Next it will start blowing some more smoke and flames while you are beating the crap out of it on the highway, and you'll think it's really cool, and show off to your buddies at night when they are behind you...and then *poof* your rear housing will take a **** on you. Have fun. And start gathering a spare motor to rebuild and streetport.










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Old 09-14-03 | 09:33 PM
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Maybe the problem is as simple as the Oil Metering Pump prematurely ejaculating.
Old 09-14-03 | 09:41 PM
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Re: Re: Blue smoke when reving....

Originally posted by Cloud
Ok, since my weak attempt at humor above wasn't taken that well, I'll try a new tactic.

Your motor is dying. Probably because you sit in the parking lot and rev it to redline repeatedly. What the hell did you expect?

Next it will start blowing some more smoke and flames while you are beating the crap out of it on the highway, and you'll think it's really cool, and show off to your buddies at night when they are behind you...and then *poof* your rear housing will take a **** on you. Have fun. And start gathering a spare motor to rebuild and streetport.

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Actually if you read what I wrote this only happens when the car is sitting and actually now that ive played with it it seems to be only after startup.. And no I don't go reving my car to 7K ALL the time for no reason and no I dont do it when the engine is cold.. What I mean by after startup is start it let it sit 10 minutes then rev it up.

This like really helped.. http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/cfaqtext.html#SSTART

It is actually a very dark blue smoke which indicates that the fuel mixture is too rich.. I might try adjusting it.

I think I will try Gump's suggestion with the OMP too because I know there is something up with it because it is leaking a little bit of oil.

Oh yeah and before I get flammed again for "beating" up my car by reving it to 7K all the time, i race the car quite a bit (on a track before I get flamed for that one too) so its normal state of operation is usually 6K - 7K and if I have to rebuild the engine because of it oh ******* well.. you pay to play. I'm not here to get flamed by jerks like you I really wanted to know for sure if the engine is going out or if there are some other things I can try before dropping a few grand on a new engine.
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Take three (not on an empty stomach, it'll just aggravate you even more!) and call me in the morning.

Actually if you read what I wrote I was telling you about how a very similar incident happened to an RX7 in the family. Similar symptoms, similar outcome. If you don't like my method of storytelling...don't read it. If you re-read it again, I was only mildly flaming you. Mostly for your ricey revving - again, what did you expect?

Yes, it *could* be the OMP wacking off in your chambers, but the way you described your problem, methinks....not.

Oh yeah and before you flamme <sic> me again - Any "racer" in the world knows that blue smoke = oil, black smoke = rich fuel, white smoke = coolant. So you might want to hang around the pits a bit more before you pop an attitude. And, while you're there, you may want to start searching for a good mechanic to rebuild your motor when it says goodbye.

Goodbye.
Old 09-14-03 | 11:10 PM
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Originally posted by Cloud


Mostly for your ricey revving - again, what did you expect?
And tell me again why you say its ricey? What did you just think I was sitting at a traffic light revving my engine? Well just so you have it I had just replaced the fuel filter, the oil filter, pan, gasket, and drain plug and the car was sitting in my ******* garage and I was reving the car a little so that I could check for leaks and such, so maybe I got a little carried away at 7K but hey I love the sound of the engine.. so STFU.
Old 09-14-03 | 11:12 PM
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Can you feel the love?

If the car doesn't puke oil out the back when driving and shifting, you may be all right for a while yet. What kind of exhaust do you have? I certainly noticed an increase in oil smoke after I ditched my thermal reactor and heat exchanger for the RB header/presilencer setup.
Old 09-14-03 | 11:13 PM
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Oh yeah.. forgot to mention the exhaust.. its got a 2.5" from the headers back with 1 cat and a magnaflow muffler....
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