SilverRocket

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79+80_rx-7

OK I WOINT TAKE ANYTHING ELSE PERSONAL, THIS IS A FORUM, OPINION/EMOTIONS ARE MEANT TO BE EXPRESSED. ENOUGH SAID BESIDES I MISS LOL OH WELL











YOU HAPPY NOW?

V8kilr

well i dont at all apreciate being called a lier,
throwing up the bs flag was basically what you were doing,
i actually have alot of knowledge considering the rotary engine,
i have ONLY owned rx7's in my life,
for a total of 5

i am one of the biggest fans out there.

i try giving a man credit,who very well deserves it,
and im sure he has done more for re-enthusiast then myself,you or just about anyone in this forum has,and you imediatly attack me with your what seems like hatered for a man who has done so much to help people like me and you alike.
i just dont understand.

V8kilr

thank you,and when everyone reads these posts in the morning i gaurantee alot more people will agree with me,
although im not a mega poster i have been a part of this forum for quite some time,
and before this forum me and tim schuh were close buds on the wankel.net forum

i have never had anyone attack my opions like today,
mainly because if i dont know what im talking about i wont talk.

but when i do know what im talking about i put up where most people shut up.

SilverRocket

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V8kilr

were all some big posters today huh?
i racked up aboput 20 in this nonsense alone,
must be the 20 most useless posts i ever posted

ah well lets not waste this one.


"The exhaust sytem requirements of a rotary engine are notably different from those of a four stroke engine.With rotary engines the exhaust gas temperature is ver high - aproximatly 1,700-2,000 Degree's F at full throttle and high rpm,as compared to 1,100-1,400 Degree's F for a four stroke reciprocating engine.Also the unmuffled exhaust noise of a roatry is very loud.""


food for thought
qoute from racing beat,
put that on here to not waste the posts

79+80_rx-7

Tommarrow LOTS OF PEOPLE WILL HAVE LOTS OF CATCHING UP TO DO eh? LATERZ,
ANDREW

V8kilr

just in the top 5 or so threads right now,ive slowly been bumpen older ones up.

SilverRocket

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Sterling

Well this turned to crap real quick!

I'm posting in support of Paul Yaw.
Now don't get all cocky there, V8Kilr! I don't particularly like how you handled this. But I do agree with you in that Paul Yaw should be given much more credit than others will delve out.

The same guys pop outta nowhere everytime someone says something good about PYs carb or even PY himself.
Mazspeed is littered with REVHEDs "He's not so great..."isms - Sorry REV, but you know it's true.

SilverRocket could'nt get Pauls timing to work well for him, despite months of trying; at least according to the other thread. I just can't help but wonder if that's not a contributing factor to the opinions he has expressed.

V8Kilr says something a bit too general, but certainly something that should easily be able to "let slide" without anything but a "Yeah, whatever -dude." under-the-breath comment. But in fact it was rebutted, and even in an attempt to at least let Paul Yaw have something....anything, V8Kilr even rebuked partly..."OK, Not king of the world, but certainly king of the hill!"

Lately, Paul is all but unreachable. Once he was a guy known for wonderful, and very inexpensive carburetor work, and the best technical assistance we could ask of just one man. Now people say all kinds of crap about the guy.
Noone seems to entertain the idea that perhaps he simply was'nt making enough money at what he was doing because his prices are so friggin low!

Funny how fickle we all get, huh? The large majority thought he was just wonderful. Then we don't hear from him for a long time; reports of people failing to get in contact despite their hair-pulling out efforts, but still no word.
Now people start to surface with very different opinions; even regarding his credibility! And not one thing happened to provolk it!
Apparently no news means just really bad news.

The man spent nearly an hour on the phone with me when I got my modded carb back from him. He knew he was'nt going to make any more money from me; but not even so much as a sigh outta him. In fact, an invite to call again if further help was needed!
And the Emails...on and on, explaining things to me at a point where I thought what he was explaining was "in depth". Only later when I finally picked up some books and actually studied how carbs work, did I realize what a complete waste of his time my very basic questions were.

I'll argue with anybody that ever says "The guy is just out to make a buck.".

Jim Downing is the "grand Daddy" of the rotary world as WE all know it...as it pertains to US. If we have to be so careful as to serving out appropriate pieces of the big "credit-where-credit-is-due" pie, then let us not forget just how long the list really is. And that there are people on this site as well as obviously the originators, that are deserving of at least a thin slice of it.

But let's all put things into a bit of perspective before we go iconizing people as "One of the greatest...".
Paul Yaw does'nt sell carbs and other parts to racers and others that have enough money to buy the best **** out there. He fills a distictive and very wide niche- mostly comprised of guys like US, whose wallets, wives and childrens needs tend to restrict out hobby-budgets just a bit.
I doubt very much that the man makes much money doing it, either.

While your local speed shop will gladly sell a Holley 750 to a kid with a ****** Yugo, assuring all the while that it's "Really the best thing going; and man, lemme tell ya - This is a real deal, here!", Paul Yaw will let you know that it simply won't work. He will advise on the best course of action for your needs, whether he's selling to you or not. Too much of the former, which is most commonplace, has turned the collective consumer mass into unbelieving, hesitant recipients of advise.
"If he's selling something, then his advice is designed self-servedly"

A special note to SilverRocket regarding Yaws dyno sheets...
Very adamantly doth I protest thoust accusation; For you art not of experience to percieve -
what others may submitt to decieve, dear Brother!

Dost thou have a ******* dyno?

Paul Yaw built his own flow bench specifically for finding the perfect porting configuration of his carbs and manifolds. Why would a snake oil salseman go thru the trouble?
Look at some of these really stupid sites selling plastic mini personal fans in a tube, with a claim of a 5% HP increase!
These sites are still up and running. Paul Yaw need not build his own flow bench to convince anyone!
Why would he need to falsify dyno sheets? And suredly, would not the popular "Nikki Street Carb" he sells then have a much more palatable HP number, then a maximum of 158?
And there certainly is something to be said for someone who purchases a shitload of fuel pressure gauges just to test them on a barometer...Ya know-just to see which major brand is fulla ****!

Icon? Pioneer? No, probably not. But Gueezus, give the guy a piece of pie. He's just an honest hard working dude who loves rotaries. He deserves it...
Don't we all?


If V8Kilr wants to learn ****, then what's wrong with learning from a guy like Paul Yaw? And further, what's wrong with a "student" per say, holding a more experienced and knowledgeable person in his own light of reverence?


One of the greatest traits I found in Paul Yaw?...
When someone says something that he disagrees with, he'll say it did'nt work well for him. Or he'll simply say that he does'nt know because he never tried it.
Certainly an awful lot of very opinionated "masters de la rotarie" on this site.
You'd think everyone here deserved the biggest goddamned slice of the pie.


...but hey; Who the **** am I, anyways, right?

SilverRocket

Sterling,

I agree with more or less everything you said. I don't know anything about PY and I have no right to accuse him of anything. I said what I said more to make my stupid point to V8Killer than anything else. I never set out to trash Yaw, I just wanted to point out that there have been many other and more influential figures in the history of the rotary engine! I felt that his initial argument was ludicrous! I really didn't mean what I said about Yaw in the context that it ended up.

I think subconciously it is, even though I know it's unfounded and illogical. I have personally felt for some time that there should be some kind of a warning or qualification on that timing advice, simply because many who read it are rookies and will go and pull rookie stunts! Seriously, if you have to ask how to turn your distributor, you shouldn't really be messing with this stuff now should you? It's not meant for people like this, it's meant for PY's customers who already are running the proper air/fuel mixtures! That's probably where my non-devotism to PY originates from.

Between this and a few other posts, I got pissed off with V8Killer, and I carried my argument here way too far. Looking back at my posts I feel like a total ******* for the stuff I said about Yaw It wasn't the point I initially tried to make and I shouldn't have gone that far.

I agree with that. I didn't mean to accuse Yaw of falsifying his dyno sheets or anything like that. How the **** would I know that? I don't know ****! I'm a rookie kid who knows next to nothing, and I'll openly admit that!

I felt like V8Killer was pissing all over RB and other "big corporations" solely because that's how he interpreted what he read on Yaw's website. In retrospect I was probably wrong.

Anyways, again I apologize. I write some stupid *** **** when I'm tired, delirious and sick at 4am. I'm super stressed with school this weekend and arguing like an idiot isn't how I should spend my study breaks lol. I'm editing all my posts and deleting the whole ****, because I'm not happy with any of it.

Sterling

Don't delete anything. No greater behavior can be expected on this forum than someone who will say he was just in a bad damn mood!

And I agree 100% with you about the lack of warning on Yaws site regarding timing advance. You could'nt have said it better in that if someone needs to ask basic timing questions, then they have not yet reached the level of understanding to fathom the destruction that can occur with just one mistake.

I don't know anything much at all except about the Nikki carb, and I have yet alot to learn. But I often find myself forgetting to give fair warning along with my advice. Othertimes I do a bit too much!

Good luck on them tests.
And V8Kilr, your quest for knowledge is the very thing that can teach others.

Curiousity killed the cat. The very same curiousity that made the rx-7 driver too fast for the cat to get out of the way!

REVHED

LOL! That's not true as a matter of fact. Show me one thread where I have ever said anything about Paul Yaw. I'm sorry but you're on some serious crack here this time Sterling and if you have any ***** you will retract that bullshit statement.

Revhed said:Did you actually read that post Sterling? Or where you too busy trying to get to the end so you can post your "two cents." Something you seem to like to do all too often in the flame fests not only here but at Mazspeed. Go figure.

V8kilr

that is the whole point,
i am the president of the seven sport rx7 club

theres already a ton of goodies,add ons,bolts ons whatever for the 2nd and 3rd gen,
im trying to help out 1st gen owners by gathering up tons of knowledge,"this is a 3 year quest so far"and testing them for my self,while be able to walk other people through the installation if it works,
and if it does work i wanna know
why it works,
what would make it not work,
what would possible make it work better,
the long term side effects,
real peoples inputs,
etc you get the picture,
i have been like that all my life,
if i see or read something i like then i have to know more,
not only more but everything.

i guess im still that little kid asking why why why.

and i only said to give the man due respect because everyone else that you guys named has got their due respect,
there mentioned in books articles,
have their pictures on walls,etc.

the only wall yaw's pic is on is the wall in his house.

and to clarify things i did not just recently stumble across his site and start praising him,
i have been following his work for quite some time,and it always amazes me how it goes so much further out of his way to find out why,where,when,how and what if

not to mention that some poeples name that were thrown around where on payroll,
yaw is not,he can spend years trying to get something to work right,if it dont then he is just out of the time,
if it does then he will sell the products while barely making any $$..