KeloidJonesJr.

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What the hell! You count them!?!? WOW

Blake

Personally, I gave up counting after ten. It gets kind of confusing anyway...do parts cars count? What if you drove the parts car for 3 months before parting it? What if you only owned the car for one day? What if you had a partner on a race car project? What if you didn't technically own the pink slip but you maintained it and drove it daily for a year? What if you owned the same car twice? What if you cut the car in two and only kept half? Yes, I did that.

On another topic, let me make one more observation. While the engines are very RPM tolerant and it is a good idea to redline them periodically to blow out the carbon, it is NOT a good idea to drive a high RPMs continuously if you are at all concerned with longevity. The most obvious issue is wear. An engine averaging 3K RPM will last waaaaaaaaay longer than one averaging 5K or even 4K, ceteris paribus. Friction, friction, friction. Apex seals wear, rotor housings wear, main bearings wear and rotor bearings wear. Also, the engines put out a great deal of heat and the thermal cycling is problematic for the soft seals and hard seal springs, plus the water pump is not designed to operate for long periods of time at high RPM. Also, an engine using an electric fan will typically have more severe thermal fluxuations than one using the clutch fan, so keep that in mind as well. By all means, redline once or twice a day, but if you baby it the rest of the time, it will last longer. "Driving it like you stole it" is not a receipe for longevity. Fun, yes. I'm not saying don't have fun but don't delude yourselves into thinking the engines love punishment just because they can handle high transient RPMs. There are many places I like to visit but don't want to live: 7K+ RPM is one of them.

Nicholas P.

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So blake and legokcen are both right. rev line for a half a second, but dont drive in the redline.

Blake

Well, yes. It's perfectly fine to run up to the redline any number of times (a couple is thereputic, more is just for fun). If you care about longevity, then take it a bit easier the rest of the time. I'm not trying to dampen anyones fun. Just don't think the self-endulgent "drive it like you stole it" mentality is necessarily constructive. I've shifted at 11,000 RPM (PP13B) before and GOD, it's fun! Rob Golden once hit 14,000 RPM in a street race in the '80s and blew his clutch up so bad they never found the starter! Trust me, we weren't thinking of eeking out 150K+ from the engines at the time. But if you care about longevity, visit the redline occationally but otherwise keep it sane...the lower the revs/load, the better.

trochoid

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Am I missing somethjing here? Tertiary? I thought the Renesis had 4 injectors, not 6. The secondaries come online around 36-3800 rpm on the earlier engines, I will venture a guess that the new one does too, ergo, normal driving should open them often enough to keep the working. I have seen secondaries with problems because they were not used enough though.

The main benefit of redlineing is to clear the carbon out of the combustion chamber, which I have heard has been a issue with the 8s. I attribute that to the older demographic of buyers that the car seems to attract. My Doctor's ex had one and had nothing but trouble with it. Of course she only drove it short trips to and from work and never stretched it's legs.

craigw1

I think thats also a reason why these 8's are breaking (mentioned in the last post). There are 8's being bought by people who have never owned a rotary before. They like the look of the car....its like a $30k sports car...they buy it without even knowing there is a rotary inside.

We all love our first gens....we love nursing them....making them go faster, helping others get their's back on the road. Man, just have a look at that 'you know when you're a first gen owner thread' That is a classic. Those posts apply to all of us.

I'm sure you can't say the same about 8 owners just yet.

Also, I bet if every 8 owner did have a first gen at some point, they probably would not be having the problems they are having now. And would also understand the car a little better. (carbon lock, premix, etc, etc)

Nicholas P.

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god knows our 1st gens have taught us about our engines.

legokcen

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You're right. I should have said tertiary intake ports. The secondary injectors open up at 3750 rpm. At 6250, teriary intake ports open up.

Dougster

Of course, I count them...
& think fondly of every one of them...Like a cool old girlfriend!

peejay

Sounds like every other new car on the market.

I don't. They are ugly and large on the outside yet cramped on the inside.

Exactly. They are used cars. Anything new has problems, the first owner gets to work the bugs out while paying the huge depreciation hit. The second owner gets to drive a car that's been sorted out for much less money.

$100T2

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Ditto: I think they are ******* ugly.

RXCITED

You have to read the fist sticky "satisfaction with your rx8" There are hundreds of satisfied owners. I'v had my 2004 rx8 for 2.5 years and it is a very dependable dailey driver that doubles as a purebred sports car.

Most of the bugs are worked out in 2005 and 2004s were corrected with TBS and recalls. It's the car to own and gets constant rave reviews from all professional mags and drivers. All first year cars have thier problems. Mazda stands by it's product. Some may be lemons but very few compared to the vast number on the road. It's a great car. Your always going to read of problems on these forums. That's where people go to gripe when they've had trouble with thier new vehicle.

legokcen

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I get just as many looks, comments, and questions about my first gen as I do my RX-8. They are both dear to my heart. I'm happily married and I have two girlfriends which are 20 years apart in age......

novaboy009

I want a blue '05 model to replace/supplement my 1st gen when I graduate college after next year. I figure I won't even notice the crappy gas mileage, since I've only ever driven gas hogs lol.

Kev (Could be my first new...ish car)

Nicholas P.

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I love the Rx8- They have great handling. The Rx8 has more room then the 1st gen deffintly, those rear seats make it towhere you can scoot the seat back alot.

I think its a ball to ride in. Its been to flordia 7 times, from louisiana.

I weight 220, and my shoulders dont hit the door in it :P

tigermack

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Really? I was 19 and my bro was 18... they let us test drove it... maybe cause we drove the FB there and we bought the 3 from the same lady... haha. It was fun...

trochoid

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That is a wild intake system, had to study it a bit to see what was happening with it. I suppose the next version will have 4 stages.