8" wide rim
10-20-05, 09:55 PM
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8" wide rim
would an 8"wide rim fit a first gen? its got the 4x110. back spacing is unknown as of now. prolly run like a 225, or 235 tire.
10-20-05, 11:57 PM
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If you roll the lips,youll fit out back, depending on offset.
I ran 7" 12MM offset wheels with lots of room to go inward,and right up against the rolled lip outward (with an SE rearend which is wider due to the brakes)
You have to be careful about going too close on the inside of the rear fenderwells too.You wont hit anything going down the road,but if you go diagonal up a curb or driveway,the solid rear axle with tilt inward on one side and youll rub up against the inner fender wall.
I ran 7" 12MM offset wheels with lots of room to go inward,and right up against the rolled lip outward (with an SE rearend which is wider due to the brakes)
You have to be careful about going too close on the inside of the rear fenderwells too.You wont hit anything going down the road,but if you go diagonal up a curb or driveway,the solid rear axle with tilt inward on one side and youll rub up against the inner fender wall.
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10-21-05, 01:02 PM
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Trust me RB rears are not stiff enough, I'm upgrading from RB springs to Coilovers and Eibachs. The Rear Eibachs have dead coils to adjust your ride height. The RB's are a great inprovement over stock, but for drift or Autocross they are just too soft.
10-21-05, 09:13 PM
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Yes, the RB springs are way too soft. I have them in the front for now (until I have my coilover setup built).
I have the Eibach/GC "dead coil" springs (175lb) with Tokico Hp/blues in the rear. The springs are a little stiff for these shocks as my car is a bit bouncy. I'll most likely need at least Tokico Illuminas to balance between the shocks and springs. The 175lb springs should be stiff enough and comfy enough for everyday use though.
I have the Eibach/GC "dead coil" springs (175lb) with Tokico Hp/blues in the rear. The springs are a little stiff for these shocks as my car is a bit bouncy. I'll most likely need at least Tokico Illuminas to balance between the shocks and springs. The 175lb springs should be stiff enough and comfy enough for everyday use though.
10-21-05, 10:02 PM
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is 175 lb the norm for the eibach/ground control rears?
i too have this setup and was wondering what the spring rates are.
i have the coilover perch/eibach spring in the front, and the eibach spring in the back
with the 5 dead wound coils
nick
i too have this setup and was wondering what the spring rates are.
i have the coilover perch/eibach spring in the front, and the eibach spring in the back
with the 5 dead wound coils
nick
10-21-05, 10:03 PM
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how are you guys supporting your spring perch/coilover perch on the front of your car? are yo just resting it on the original spring perch? or welding the unit to the strut? or???
10-21-05, 10:46 PM
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I think 175lbs would be a good alternative for someone who might drive their car daily and wants a stiff enough rear. 200lbs rear springs might be a little too tough on the kidneys...
10-21-05, 10:59 PM
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i thought that there was only a coilover set up for the front, and not the rear? am i backwards? can someone post pics iof their coil-over setup
10-21-05, 11:21 PM
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I switched to 175lb RB deadwound coils out back.I also run 175lb Eibachs up front and Tokiko Blues all around.
Its a very livable street ride,not harsh at all.True,it may not be perfect for a track car,but my wide sticky tires and increased track width make up for any suspension shortcomings.
I was actually quite happy with the Eibach rear springs that came in the kit with the 175lb fronts and the shocks.They were softer,in the 135ish range I think.The main reason I switched to 175lb rears was to combat rearend squat under power which became a real problem after I started upping the power on my TII swap.The 175 rears keep the car more level under accel,and they prevent the rearend from sucking up and causing my big driveline to hit the tunnel.Plus the deadwounds are great for adjusting ride height,especially when you run adjustable coilovers in the front and you want a different stance.
Its a very livable street ride,not harsh at all.True,it may not be perfect for a track car,but my wide sticky tires and increased track width make up for any suspension shortcomings.
I was actually quite happy with the Eibach rear springs that came in the kit with the 175lb fronts and the shocks.They were softer,in the 135ish range I think.The main reason I switched to 175lb rears was to combat rearend squat under power which became a real problem after I started upping the power on my TII swap.The 175 rears keep the car more level under accel,and they prevent the rearend from sucking up and causing my big driveline to hit the tunnel.Plus the deadwounds are great for adjusting ride height,especially when you run adjustable coilovers in the front and you want a different stance.
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10-22-05, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by perfect_circle
i thought that there was only a coilover set up for the front, and not the rear? am i backwards? can someone post pics iof their coil-over setup
10-22-05, 07:06 AM
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13x8 will fit in back with rolled lips as was stated, up front no chance. Youll have to slice off the entire factory flare on the fender. I ran 13x8's, 4" BS IIRC when I ran in CSP. 225 or 235's will fit on the rim fine. The ISC isint a "coilover". Its an adjustable spacer used for setting ride height and corner weighting. Up front you can use collars that drop on the strut housing and nest on the factory perch. Of course you need one made for our cars as the perch isint flat or symmetrical. On my IT car I bought the setup from Mazdacomp which requires you to cut off the old perch and weld a flat plate steel perch. on.
So is the Eibach pro kit springs stiffer than the RB ones? I want a stiff street ride without the race car teeth rattling ride. And to save $ I was thinking of using blues.
So is the Eibach pro kit springs stiffer than the RB ones? I want a stiff street ride without the race car teeth rattling ride. And to save $ I was thinking of using blues.
10-22-05, 09:36 AM
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I've got 15x8's all around... the lips have been rolled in the front, the rears haven't been touched. They rub a little bit in the front on hard turning, like parallel parking, but at speed, it's not that big of a deal. Also... lemme tell you how much fun it is to parallel park a car with 15x8's, 205/50-15 Falken Azenis, and manual steering. But, c'est la vie... there's better things to worry about.
there's pictures on my cardomain site...
www.cardomain.com/id/chefasaurus
A lot of my friends have dubbed it the "roller skate" because of how it sits with those wheels, but I think it's got a mean, low stance on it. BTW, I run RB springs and tokico blues all around.
there's pictures on my cardomain site...
www.cardomain.com/id/chefasaurus
A lot of my friends have dubbed it the "roller skate" because of how it sits with those wheels, but I think it's got a mean, low stance on it. BTW, I run RB springs and tokico blues all around.
10-22-05, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by nick1
is 175 lb the norm for the eibach/ground control rears?
i too have this setup and was wondering what the spring rates are.
i have the coilover perch/eibach spring in the front, and the eibach spring in the back
with the 5 dead wound coils
nick
i too have this setup and was wondering what the spring rates are.
i have the coilover perch/eibach spring in the front, and the eibach spring in the back
with the 5 dead wound coils
nick
10-23-05, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Rx7carl
The ISC isint a "coilover". Its an adjustable spacer used for setting ride height and corner weighting.
They are only spring perches...
10-24-05, 05:39 PM
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i found a set of enkei rims for sale locally, they are eitehr 15x8 or 15x7 one has 235 tires, and one has 215 tires did enkei make a 15x8 rim?
by the way, it says the backspacing is 7 on th rim, but if thats measured in inches, then how could it be a 7 inch wide rim? or even an 8, because the lip was bigger than one inch...
by the way, it says the backspacing is 7 on th rim, but if thats measured in inches, then how could it be a 7 inch wide rim? or even an 8, because the lip was bigger than one inch...
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10-25-05, 01:28 PM
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the 7 on the back of the rim is likely the offset. the 15x7" enkei mesh wheels commonly have a +7 offset and a 2 1/2" lip.
i am looking for a deeper offset for my rears, as i already have a pair of the above mentioned wheels on the front. preferably a 0 offset, or even a low -number if anyone knows of any. enkei, riken, epsilons, etc
oh, btw on fitment.....the 15x7 with +7 offset fit on the front, quite a abit of extra room on the inside, but they are not going to fit inside the fenders...if it gets too low it will rub, and rolling is not going to help....this is on a 85 gsl.....and with 195/50/15 tires
i am looking for a deeper offset for my rears, as i already have a pair of the above mentioned wheels on the front. preferably a 0 offset, or even a low -number if anyone knows of any. enkei, riken, epsilons, etc
oh, btw on fitment.....the 15x7 with +7 offset fit on the front, quite a abit of extra room on the inside, but they are not going to fit inside the fenders...if it gets too low it will rub, and rolling is not going to help....this is on a 85 gsl.....and with 195/50/15 tires