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Old 12-07-10, 12:55 PM
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4 Port Intake

This is a first gen question cause only a first gener would want to do this. Do weber 13b 4 port intakes fit on tII motors?
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nope. Same bolt pattern for housings but different for the the front and rear plates.
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You will need to make an adapter plate from 3/4-1" aluminum. JapantoLA had some sort of adapter plate, not sure of it's application. There have been some commercially made by a rotary shop in Australia. Same group that sells the Tweak-It throttle body kit, iirc.
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Originally Posted by trochoid
You will need to make an adapter plate from 3/4-1" aluminum. JapantoLA had some sort of adapter plate, not sure of it's application. There have been some commercially made by a rotary shop in Australia. Same group that sells the Tweak-It throttle body kit, iirc.
Last time I checked, Japan2LA and Tweakit dont have an adapter but I can get it made. On the other hand, Rene (rotary works) can add the additional injectors to the lower TII intake manifold.
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You can also purchase a RB weber intake for ida
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show off!! lol. at least polish it.
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Cost wise:
Adapter $200 appx plus gaskets
RB manifold $286 + tax and shipping
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Or buy my intake pictured for $50 less than RB and ill throw in a gasket.
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you're a good salesman. Sales is not in my line, I cant even sell an ice to an eskimo. LOLLLLL
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I want to do this the other way... wanted to put a later style manifold on an early 4 port.

Specifically, I bought a GSL-SE engine and I wanted to rebuild it with 12A end housings and make adapters so I could use my TII-converted 6-port N/A intake manifold... Confused yet?

There's kinda-sorta room to put the late bolt pattern on the early rear housing but not the front one. There *may* be enough room to put the early bolt pattern on the TII housings. There WILL be a port mismatch, however.
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What the?
12A housings on converted 6-port T2 intake?
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Just curious, why bother turning a low compression turbo motor into an N/A motor?
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I said it was odd

The 4 port housings have nicer flow and port timing characteristics than the 6 port, which is why an N/A TII is so much nicer than any 6-port. But the S4 N/A intake manifold works a lot nicer than the TII manifold. I mated the two, and it worked phenomenally well, even after my mind cleared from breathing in all the aluminum and JB Weld dust.

I killed the TII rear end housing (horrible scoring from the rotor hitting it) but I found a GSL-SE engine and knew I could make a four port out of it using the plentiful stock I have of 12A side housings in excellent shape... but the bolt pattern's different. So I blocked off the aux ports RX-8 Low Power style and bridge ported the secondaries. Haven't run it yet. Going to play with intake manifolds on this one as well, jump between GSL-SE and S4 N/A.

Next engine is already in the planning/acquisition stages... found another 12A, this one will probably be a fullbridge with quad 48mm throttle bodies. Why? Why the hell not?
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gotcha. In the beginnng, I was like "WTF" lol
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Oh I forgot the good part... GSL-SE center housing so I can have integral fuel injectors and mate it to the FC crossmember easily.

Never did like doing anything simple when I could do it ***-backwards. (Name that quote!)
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Originally Posted by Twilightoptics
Just curious, why bother turning a low compression turbo motor into an N/A motor?
I would use a TII core and S3 internals. Mazdatrix offers a bunch of intakes for IDAs but I think you have to grind the proper port. Anyone know for sure. And what does it mean that they have no facility for the break servo
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Originally Posted by rotorholic
Or buy my intake pictured for $50 less than RB and ill throw in a gasket.
What motor does it fit? Carb for sale too?
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Originally Posted by 82FanTC
What motor does it fit? Carb for sale too?
87-91 T2 engine, I would sell it with the 48ida carb
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