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Old 11-06-14, 04:24 PM
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Passes the exterior plane of the fender about 1/2" or so.

Rolling would not help, and I don't believe in it anyway; screws up the structural integrity of the fender.

(Admittedly, so would clobbering it with a 20-lb wheel...)
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Originally Posted by DivinDriver
Passes the exterior plane of the fender about 1/2" or so. Rolling would not help, and I don't believe in it anyway; screws up the structural integrity of the fender. (Admittedly, so would clobbering it with a 20-lb wheel...)
You're screwed! Just trade me for the 14" Panasports. They won't require any bodywork.


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DD you could probably get away with those wheels with 185 width tires.
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Originally Posted by DivinDriver
Good, if labor-intensive, advice... but I don't know what I could do about it if I have an issue. Longer bumpstops around the strut shaft?
those wheels look better than i was expecting!

i wouldn't worry too much, as it looks like there is still a bunch or room, Peepers has some poke, in the rear and its fine, because the car isn't that low.

there is an easy fix (sort of) in the front, camber plates. the stock alignment has positive camber, and going to -1 negative camber moves the top of the tire in quite a bit. plus it will tuck inside the fender on a bump, if needed.

actually you may be able to get enough negative camber with stock bits, there was some rotary rocket article where they did it with springs and something else

going from +1 to negative 1, won't affect tire wear, unless you drive hard, then -1 won't wear the outside edge.

grip does increase in the front as well, so you go from mild understeer to mild over steer
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Originally Posted by lindahlish
This sounds awesome! I have always thought shaved door handles on an FB would really clean up the door. I would personally delete the side moldings and shave the marker lights as well so there's not a single hole, gap or space on the side of the car besides the door ends. Would be an extremely clean look. It would be good to go all the way and shave the trunk lock while you're at it too I suppose, for continuity. And an RX8 dash in the SA would be the biggest juxtaposition between the classic lines and interior of the SA to the updated digital gauge cluster of the 8. Completely digitizing an SA/FB with LED lights, RX8 dash cluster, updated interior parts and seats, power locks and other things like that would be really a cool combo. Old school with new school parts - couldn't get any better than that.

As I read that I just pictured -> walking towards the car -> pushing the open button on the FOB -> sitting down on some RX8 seats -> closing the door -> strapping on the seatbelt (no tickets) -> pushing the clutch -> pressing the start button until the rotary roar was heard -> and a big ol' SMILE while driving away. Sounds like it would be an awesome DD for sure!
i was thinking about keeping the door handles, but yeah the rest is like you describe.

walk up; car is open, for me, hop in, fasten seatbelt, push start, and away we go.

my exterior consultant and i were comparing the Rx8 dash to the SA dash, and the Rx8 is a clean modern design, but the SA makes it look like a mess. the Rx8 has all these random shapes. so TBD on that, but very few Rx8 pieces i predict.
Old 11-06-14, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by lindahlish
Link us up! I wanna see this one you have for sale.
Cream 84 SE. Auction ends Friday AM. nice rust free Cali car. Bone stock and original with Atkins rebuild. $1750 buy it now.
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s
those wheels look better than i was expecting!

i wouldn't worry too much, as it looks like there is still a bunch or room, Peepers has some poke, in the rear and its fine, because the car isn't that low.

there is an easy fix (sort of) in the front, camber plates. the stock alignment has positive camber, and going to -1 negative camber moves the top of the tire in quite a bit. plus it will tuck inside the fender on a bump, if needed.

actually you may be able to get enough negative camber with stock bits, there was some rotary rocket article where they did it with springs and something else

going from +1 to negative 1, won't affect tire wear, unless you drive hard, then -1 won't wear the outside edge.

grip does increase in the front as well, so you go from mild understeer to mild over steer
Nobody seems to sell camber plates that will work with the stock SA strut provisions anymore. T3's require going full coilover, etc.

view from the top of the front fender:
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I haven't checked in and actually READ this thread in some time and WOW there's some cool stuff in here!!

Originally Posted by lindahlish
I just feel that I dropped the ball on the last one. Spent too much money and time on it than I could afford, both monetarily and in the time commitment, to where it became too much of a burden. The ultimate decision to sell it was mine and mine alone, and I'm glad I did. I learned a lot from that car that I'll apply to any fun cars from now on. I'm taking both the good and the bad and moving on with it to build a better car this time - for less money.
I could tell that was a special car and I enjoyed the thread. That is a very mature statement to make. I hope my boys become that mature some day (fingers crossed! ) I'm looking forward to the new build with the automatic conversion.

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i'm sort of sketching out my next project, i wanna do an SA thats a good DD. i want to keep all the coolness from the SA, but with an Rx8 engine/trans and some other neat bits. like maybe a new fangled card key, so you just walk up, and it unlocks, and then you hop in and just hit "start"
I would love to see something like that!!! Not knowing and admittedly, not having done any research, I wonder how difficult it would be to put an RX-8 dash in an SA... Not planning on doing it with mine, but damn that idea sounds intriguing! Would love to see that well done...

Originally Posted by DivinDriver
Overall, I'm pretty pleased with the look and behavior of my first-ever set of non-stock rims on any car, & serious performance tires on the Beastie.
WHATTHE??!?!?? DD? My stock SA ROCK in a sea of modifications, is making mods to his stock SA? I'm so confused right now... Seriously, I've always admired your work and these new wheels are looking awesome. Another job well done, of course!
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Originally Posted by woodmv
WHATTHE??!?!?? DD? My stock SA ROCK in a sea of modifications, is making mods to his stock SA? I'm so confused right now... Seriously, I've always admired your work and these new wheels are looking awesome. Another job well done, of course!
Thanks. Not sure I consider a wheel swap to be a "mod," exactly - - unless I got rid of the original wheels, which ain't likely. More like a wardrobe change.
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DD you need the RB adjustable LCAs. I put them on mine this year and have -1 camber dialed in and it makes
a big difference.

j9fd3s I have the auto lock kit from BD installed, so I just walk up, click the remote and the doors are unlocked.
Saves my key cylinders which were starting to get very loose and dodgy a few years back. Sometimes when
I'm at a meet I sit there a click the locks on and off and watch to see who notices and what the reactions are. Lots
of fun!

Ok I'm easily entertained. I admit it.
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Originally Posted by t_g_farrell
DD you need the RB adjustable LCAs. I put them on mine this year and have -1 camber dialed in and it makes a big difference.
Another $600... You're trying to me divorced, aren't you?
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Originally Posted by DivinDriver
Another $600... You're trying to me divorced, aren't you?
They are sweet, worth every penny. Cheaper than going coilovers with adjustable tower mounts.
I'm sure that reasoning will help you out of the situation.
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Originally Posted by t_g_farrell
They are sweet, worth every penny. Cheaper than going coilovers with adjustable tower mounts.
I'm sure that reasoning will help you out of the situation.
Well, the wife did mention, on finally seeing the installed result, that the new wheels made the car look "really good" and "more valuable," and offered the final critique of "expensive, but nice."

She still has a necklace to pick out as her end of the deal, though.
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Originally Posted by DivinDriver
Nobody seems to sell camber plates that will work with the stock SA strut provisions anymore. T3's require going full coilover, etc.

view from the top of the front fender:
oh i don't know, i think you could just use the SA's upper spring perch on a set of ground control camber plates, they just use a needle bearing between the 2.5" spring perch and the slider bit.

we used a set of ReSpeed plates on my SA, with stock springs, not sure what we did, but it wasn't complex
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Originally Posted by t_g_farrell
DD you need the RB adjustable LCAs. I put them on mine this year and have -1 camber dialed in and it makes
a big difference.

j9fd3s I have the auto lock kit from BD installed, so I just walk up, click the remote and the doors are unlocked.
Saves my key cylinders which were starting to get very loose and dodgy a few years back. Sometimes when
I'm at a meet I sit there a click the locks on and off and watch to see who notices and what the reactions are. Lots
of fun!

Ok I'm easily entertained. I admit it.
i was thinking about just using the Rx8 latches, they look like they might fit of all things...
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Sanded a little more. Seems my time belongs to everyone but me these days. I'm almost off tomorrow and Monday, which should allow me to finish the prep. Should.

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Showed my car at the Pacifico Classic Japanese car show at the Pier in Santa Monica Calif. About 100 cars. Lots of Rotaries. Really nice weather!

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Originally Posted by Cameron38
Showed my car at the Pacifico Classic Japanese car show at the Pier in Santa Monica Calif. About 100 cars. Lots of Rotaries. Really nice weather!


That looks really good Cameron. Very nice. What are those wheels?
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They are American Racing AR95 Estrella 15x7 with 205/55/15 tires. They are very common (too common). I'd love to get a set of panasports like I saw on a beautiful 240Z at the show.


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Wish I coulda gone, but by the time I found out I'd not be working Saturday I had no time left to clean up the Beastie. Still got infield grass from JCCS in it!
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Originally Posted by DivinDriver
Wish I coulda gone, but by the time I found out I'd not be working Saturday I had no time left to clean up the Beastie. Still got infield grass from JCCS in it!
Nobody would have cared. Not exactly a concourse level event. The cars ranged from heaps to perfection LOL
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Originally Posted by DivinDriver
Nobody seems to sell camber plates that will work with the stock SA strut provisions anymore. T3's require going full coilover, etc.

view from the top of the front fender:
you need something like this:

picture isn't great, but basically its just a spring perch that is 120mm instead of 60mm.
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Looked up the GC camber plates; not unreasonably priced as such things go, but apparently they require re-machining of the strut shaft tops. Wouldn't know where to go to get that done in a trustworthy way.

& I *just* got the car aligned right for the first time in years, too.
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On Saturday I was well motivated to get the electric heat installed as I knew that this week would be cold and miserable and no heat or defrost probably would not cut it. As mentioned previously in this thread the ceramic heater elements would replace the AC evaporator in the factory housing. Everything bolted back together and I flipped the switch and yes, I have heat! Unfortunately one of the four elements could not be turned off as the FET switch had failed on for some reason. With the fan off it smells hot very quickly so I was able to detect it and did not have an incident. I also took the opportunity to pull the ECU out of the car since I was not using it and it does have a small drain on the battery when the car is operating. On Sunday I pulled the Evaporator box back out and looked over my circuitry. I guess I will replace the failed part and then add some protection components which I left out originally because I didn't think they would be necessary.
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finally got the right spacers for front tires. 20mm got those installed

installed aluminum radiator, custom mounts.

started cutting the engine bay to make a battery tray on the passenger side firewall. yeah, ot's tight


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