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Old 05-04-08 | 05:01 PM
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So I found another car to put a 12a in...

Not exactly a rotary vehicle... actually it is the complete opposite.

It is:

2 door sedan
Front and Rear USEABLE seats
3 Cylinder
FWD



Can anyone guess what it is?


If you guessed a Geo Metro, your WRONG! It is a 2 stroke engine with I believe a 3 on a tree transmission. Left a Rotary Crossroads business card (as that was the only thing I had to write with) stating that I would love to buy the car and left my number.

Got a 12a engine/transmission/driveshaft/rear end at the house. I know it will not fit, but it would be a great project car, and would have 3x the power it had stock.

Oh, I didn't tell you what the car was?

DKW Junior

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DKW_Junior




Old 05-04-08 | 05:11 PM
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Shoulda read the Wiki a bit harder, it is a 4 speed, which is weird. I looked in the car and saw 3 pedals (clutch, brake, gas) but no floor mounted shifter. That brought me to the 3 speed column shifter, but I could not find out where the shifter was at... Drats, I looked at it for like 2 minutes, and its 5 hours away from me
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i was thinking 85-88 chevy sprint at first.....
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looks more like a nash than anything did those not have hydra glides in them?
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looks more like a nash than anything did those not have hydra glides in them?
Hydraglides were a GM thing I believe. This was German

If the guy does not get in contact with me in 2 weeks I will ride back down there.
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so it's an Audi. the 4 rings on the grill. kinda resembles the 55-57 chevy. mini shoebox.
put a modern street bike engine in it. like from a honda goldwing 1600cc.
a quick search:
http://www.dyna.co.za/cars/specs.htm

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they were frontwheel drive. with some fab knowhow, shouldn't be too difficult to make it rear wheel drive.





were full chassis


nice little car. could be an excellent commuter car, especially the way gas is now. any more vote for going modern streetbike engine? maybe u could keep an eye out for another?
http://www.motorbase.com/vehicle/by-id/552/
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Originally Posted by rxtasy3
so it's an Audi. the 4 rings on the grill. kinda resembles the 55-57 chevy. mini shoebox.
put a modern street bike engine in it. like from a honda goldwing 1600cc.
a quick search:
http://www.dyna.co.za/cars/specs.htm
IIRC DKW was one of the 4 automotive companies under one moniker(including NSU I believe) hence the 4 connecting rings.
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It would be great to put a bike engine in it, but this is the problem I have encountered. -
What will you do with the transmission? A bike engine revs like crazy, so you would need a really strong tranny right?
I've been wanting to swap a hayabusa engine into a bug or x1/9 for some time now, I just need the money and time!
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So you gonna own it or what Stu? That car has more character than an Opel GT.

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Yeah Ray, I want to get it badly. I will low ball him $500, since I have a good feeling it does not run (great for me)

If I do, I would want to just get a 12a in there for the mean time. If it goes good, it will have more HP than stock (like I said, 3x) and still return stock RX7 MPG plus more since it is about 500lbs less than it. Should be fun, and if I want to get frisky, then just SP it and throw on a Sterling.
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I would like to get a bike engine in there, but it seems like it would be under more stress than designed? Most bikes are 300=700lbs, right? Putting it in a vehicle that weighs about 2-5x the amount would seem pretty tough on it. You could just use an older bike engine, like my 1982 Yamaha Seca, it is driveshaft driven, easier to make it RWD.

If I just went 12a, I have everything needed, but unmodified ($$$).
Old 05-04-08 | 11:55 PM
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Keep the two stroke in there, and put a set of pipes and slide carbs on it.
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when i said Chevy Sprint, i don't think many people here would remember the little guy. and since we're taking weird cars, i figured i'd throw up a few pics of an 86 that i found on the net. i owned one once, an 87. it was blue with the 3 cyl and 5spd. used more oil than gas. i rebuilt the engine (which was a 48hp unit manufactured by Suzuki) at 340K. it took me 10 hours total. i have a friend here in town that restores these neat little cars. we call him "SprintMan". he really does a great job with them. i'm sure he ownes close to 20 sprints, not to mention a 1950 Packard 2 door, a 57 BMW Isetta, a 66 Toronado, and a couple of Metros and Vintage Lincons. anyways, here's the pics of the Sprint:







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Why not put a 12A in a Sprint? I've sort of wanted to do that for a long time.
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me too. we'd just have to make a trans tunnel. i can pick one up cheap... too bad you're on the west coast Jeff, i'd like to do something like that.
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How about a Subura Justy. =P

Me and my Dad just rebuilt the engine in ours. The engine is a 1.1L 3 cylinder engine. =]


Supposedly about ~68hp are churned out by this monster motor.
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well stu if you where in my neck of the woods. I would con yah into putting a 1,000cc Polaris triple in there water cooled sled motor and we could use the two speed snowmobile clutch in there. They do it over here in legend cars all the time with the snowmobile motor/tranny. lots of water cooled sleds to choose from for cheap up here!
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well stu if you where in my neck of the woods. I would con yah into putting a 1,000cc Polaris triple in there water cooled sled motor and we could use the two speed snowmobile clutch in there. They do it over here in legend cars all the time with the snowmobile motor/tranny. lots of water cooled sleds to choose from for cheap up here!
Never thought that way! I was looking around (dreaming as usual) and found this site:

http://www.rotamax.net/

Check out their 1300cc twin rotors
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What about this?

Jeezus,

How've you been?

My son brought this '87 Mitsubishi Starion home a few days ago. It has many of the same lines as an RX-7. I especially like the flared fenders. Hmmm...I wonder if he'll put a rotary in it? Ha ha. No....I don't think so...it already has a turbo. LOL.

Good luck with your project!

DD



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Originally Posted by FirebirdSlayer666
IIRC DKW was one of the 4 automotive companies under one moniker(including NSU I believe) hence the 4 connecting rings.
NSU being the car company Felix Wankel teamed with to produce the world's first rotary car in the 60's. They were bought by volkswagen and merged with Auto Union which is what the four rings really mean. Audi is only the first ring, the others being DKW, Horch and Wanderer. Good call Slayer.

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Originally Posted by Hooch.
NSU being car company Felix Wankel teamed with in the 50's?
NSU: And you thought Mazda's had apex problems
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Jeezus,

How've you been?

My son brought this '87 Mitsubishi Starion home a few days ago. It has many of the same lines as an RX-7. I especially like the flared fenders. Hmmm...I wonder if he'll put a rotary in it? Ha ha. No....I don't think so...it already has a turbo. LOL.

Good luck with your project!

DD
Not bad! I like those cars, but for some reason I am wary of mitsubishi's.

Went down there a couple months back, and the car was gone. I think someone drove it away.

I was crushed Oh well, time to find another project car. Maybe a Dodge Omni?
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Originally Posted by Jeezus
Shoulda read the Wiki a bit harder, it is a 4 speed, which is weird. I looked in the car and saw 3 pedals (clutch, brake, gas) but no floor mounted shifter. That brought me to the 3 speed column shifter, but I could not find out where the shifter was at... Drats, I looked at it for like 2 minutes, and its 5 hours away from me
my brothers 63 mercedes was 4 speed on the column. '3 on the tree' is for american cars
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My '59 Peugeot 403 and my '67 Peugeot 404 were both 4 on the column. Taught my wife to drive stick in the '59.



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